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06-22-2012, 02:08 PM
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I wonder with Tor/Ana history what would happen if anahiem gets Brayden on their team.

Getzlaf for Luke++

Grabo for Brayden?

I dunno drawing at straws lol
Why is Getzlaf in this deal? The whole idea would be for Anaheim to get a center to play behind Getzlaf, not trade Getzlaf...........

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If JVR is healthy I would trade 6th for him...

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Is there a difference in value between JvR and Voracek out of interest?
JVR has the higher ceiling but lower floor; he's more of a natural goal-scorer, while Voracek, contrary to EA Sports, is more a playmaker.

Their value is probably close, but given JVR's inconsistency and last year's injuries, I wouldn't be surprised if clubs valued Voracek more highly.

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Is there a difference in value between JvR and Voracek out of interest?
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Can Voracek play LW?
IMO, if you're getting Schenn there is no way Voracek is going to be in the deal as well.

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Don't think Holmgren will budge on Schenn/Couts so I doubt Ryan would be involved in this especially after the reaction from Ducks fans to Schenn/Couts being off the table. Could see us moving up to 6th, though.

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if philly is considering moving schenn in a deal for the 6th, im sure burke would have no problem moving the 5th for a deal based around schenn.

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How about:


- JvR
- Schenn
- 20th OV
- Flyers 2013 1st rounder
- Flyers 2013 2nd rounder



- Ryan
- 6th OV

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How about:


- JvR
- Schenn
- 20th OV
- Flyers 2013 1st rounder
- Flyers 2013 2nd rounder



- Ryan
- 6th OV
God no.

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I would rather talk about 6th overall, not Bobby...is 6th for JVR is acceptable for both sides?

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IMO, if you're getting Schenn there is no way Voracek is going to be in the deal as well.
You didn't answer my question. Can Voracek play LW?

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How about:


- JvR
- Schenn
- 20th OV
- Flyers 2013 1st rounder
- Flyers 2013 2nd rounder



- Ryan
- 6th OV
Thats awful. I wouldn't want to add much to Schenn + JvR for Ryan + 6th, let alone add 2 1sts and a 2nd

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How about:


- JvR
- Schenn
- 20th OV
- Flyers 2013 1st rounder
- Flyers 2013 2nd rounder



- Ryan
- 6th OV
Assume for the purposes of constructing a deal that Schenn > 6th. The difference between Ryan and JVR is not two 1sts and a 2nd.

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Maybe the deal won't be for Ryan and the 6th. JVR for the 6th overall. Work around that?

I guess I would be okay with the Schenn+JVR+20th for Ryan and 6th overall, but man I do not want to give up Schenn.
I don't either but that's a really nice looking trade for both teams. Didn't Schenn play on the wing 99% of the time once back from injury?

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How about:


- JvR
- Schenn
- 20th OV
- Flyers 2013 1st rounder
- Flyers 2013 2nd rounder



- Ryan
- 6th OV
you forgot to add the jar of vasoline going to Philly

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You didn't answer my question. Can Voracek play LW?
JVR can.

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I think moving to 6th screams " We want Matt Dumba ".

Personally, I'd take Trouba before Dumba, but that's just me.

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JVR has the higher ceiling but lower floor; he's more of a natural goal-scorer, while Voracek, contrary to EA Sports, is more a playmaker.

Their value is probably close, but given JVR's inconsistency and last year's injuries, I wouldn't be surprised if clubs valued Voracek more highly.
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IMO, if you're getting Schenn there is no way Voracek is going to be in the deal as well.
Thanks for the replies.

I think JvR's struggles + health would be an issue for Anaheim, and Voracek would be preferred/the better fit, but if there is a big value difference between the two then it might be hard to construct a deal with Schenn and Voracek involved, which is fair enough.

Out of interest what would have to be added to any such package? Or is it a case that if Schenn is involved, Voracek can't be moved?

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Assume for the purposes of constructing a deal that Schenn > 6th. The difference between Ryan and JVR is not two 1sts and a 2nd.

Fair enough What if the 2013 1st rounder was taken out?

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Assume for the purposes of constructing a deal that Schenn > 6th. The difference between Ryan and JVR is not two 1sts and a 2nd.
Schenn is worth way more than the 6th overall.

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I would rather talk about 6th overall, not Bobby...is 6th for JVR is acceptable for both sides?
I think the value is probably close and reasonably debatable.

Whether it is "acceptable" to Flyers fans, I think, depends on who is there at 6. What I mean to say is, I think I'd prefer to do the deal when the Ducks are on the clock and we know who's on and off the board.

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How about:


- JvR
- Schenn
- 20th OV
- Flyers 2013 1st rounder
- Flyers 2013 2nd rounder



- Ryan
- 6th OV
Sbisa better be coming back with that

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If JVR is healthy I would trade 6th for him...
And for what purpose? To add another winger to an organisation? Adding a winger is last on the list of priorities. Sixth overall should be used (either through using that pick or trade) to address highest organisational need, not the lowest one.

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I think I'd prefer to do the deal when the Ducks are on the clock and we know who's on and off the board.
I think that will be the Ducks game plan. See who is there at 6th and decide then.

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I would rather talk about 6th overall, not Bobby...is 6th for JVR is acceptable for both sides?
With that contract, his actual production, and his injury, probably not to a budget team, no.

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I think the value is probably close and reasonably debatable.

Whether it is "acceptable" to Flyers fans, I think, depends on who is there at 6. What I mean to say is, I think I'd prefer to do the deal when the Ducks are on the clock and we know who's on and off the board.
Sure, we can wait, but Dumba or Reinhart will be available for sure...

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