Hagelin wore down at the end and didn't produce much in the playoffs. Should be trade him too?
We went from up 2-1 in the OTT series to down 3-2 without Hagelin. Upon coming back we won the next two games. He showed up about half of the time the next two series after that, after that he seemed like he was in over his head at times. He at least showed glimpses.
And i'm not advocating for a trade. I dont know how many times I have to clarify this.
2 years is a small sample size? I'm not questioning his talents or ceiling. He's incredibly talented. I'm questioning where he goes at the end of the season when the team needs him the most.
I understand why you're questioning him. I just prefer the patient approach with 22 year olds. I think kids with sturdier builds can be more effective in the playoffs at a very young age. I often think of the kid line formed by the Oilers with Gelinas, Graves and Buchberger the year they won without Gretzky. They were effective (similar to the Devils and Kings' 4th lines this year) because they had the bodies that could be battering rams. Kids like Stepan, Seguin, Eberle - they need time to fill out and understand where they need to go and when to be successful in playoff games. Those types of kids with their style of game just take a little more time. I think body type plays a crucial role.
big shock there.. Not sure its gonna get any better after Parise signs.
Agreed. Better off pursuing 2nd line talent (Doan/Whitney) if you strike out on Parise than expect Howson to be competent enough to get a deal done. I really believe that he's hoping Nash will just stay. If Nash wants out, the onus is on him to stop lollygagging force his way out.
If there is ANY truth to this rumor and the organization strikes out on some of the bigger guys like Nash (do not want anyway), Ryan (would cost a lot including, probably Step), I would love to go out and get Stalberg. I feel like he'd be an ideal fit on our third line and wouldn't come too expensive. He is a 15-20 goal secondary scorer that would give us a solid scoring boost to the Bottom 6, but I don't know what it would take? He had a career year last year in Chicago playing with some good players, so I don't know how high is value is. Maybe a 2nd and a solid prospect could get it done? Maybe for our 1st straight up? Stalberg is only 26 and had 40 + points last year, so he'd be just entering his prime. I'm not good on gauging value here.
Insert Stalberg and you get when everybody's back and fully healthy:
(Bickel/Eminger, whoever they'd be more comfortable bringing back)
Allows everybody to continue to develop and it doesn't break the bank for anybody without giving up our best assets. I'm a big fan of Stalberg, so I can't say what the rest of the board would think.
would anyone give Parise the same cap hit Nash has? No assets required. That's if he'd come here..
No, because Parise is going to get a Richards-esque cap circumvention deal around 12 years. That type of deal will pay him more actual money than Nash, but at a smaller cap hit. $7m cap hit deal is my ceiling on that type of deal for Parise.
lol @ market heating up. There will be no one to ****ing meet his demands. Howson is a ****tard.
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