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06-22-2012, 04:42 PM
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Hagelin wore down at the end and didn't produce much in the playoffs. Should be trade him too?
We went from up 2-1 in the OTT series to down 3-2 without Hagelin. Upon coming back we won the next two games. He showed up about half of the time the next two series after that, after that he seemed like he was in over his head at times. He at least showed glimpses.

And i'm not advocating for a trade. I dont know how many times I have to clarify this.

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what on earth is the difference?
We can't bury a NMC in the minors. I don't think we'd have to anyway.

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06-22-2012, 04:43 PM
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We can't bury a NMC in the minors. I don't think we'd have to anyway.
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As it stands right now, CBJ doubtful Nash gets traded tonight. Feel market will heat up once Parise signs after July 1.

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As it stands right now, CBJ doubtful Nash gets traded tonight. Feel market will heat up once Parise signs after July 1.
Of course. Reporters felt like the market would heat up draft night too. It won't heat up until this sicko is relieved of his duties.

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The market isn't going to heat up to what Howson wants.

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big shock there.. Not sure its gonna get any better after Parise signs.

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2 years is a small sample size? I'm not questioning his talents or ceiling. He's incredibly talented. I'm questioning where he goes at the end of the season when the team needs him the most.
I understand why you're questioning him. I just prefer the patient approach with 22 year olds. I think kids with sturdier builds can be more effective in the playoffs at a very young age. I often think of the kid line formed by the Oilers with Gelinas, Graves and Buchberger the year they won without Gretzky. They were effective (similar to the Devils and Kings' 4th lines this year) because they had the bodies that could be battering rams. Kids like Stepan, Seguin, Eberle - they need time to fill out and understand where they need to go and when to be successful in playoff games. Those types of kids with their style of game just take a little more time. I think body type plays a crucial role.

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I swear, can we please get out of tra talk with this lunatic. I want nothing to do with Nash anymore.

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late July? is Howson checking into rehab during this time?

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big shock there.. Not sure its gonna get any better after Parise signs.
Agreed. Better off pursuing 2nd line talent (Doan/Whitney) if you strike out on Parise than expect Howson to be competent enough to get a deal done. I really believe that he's hoping Nash will just stay. If Nash wants out, the onus is on him to stop lollygagging force his way out.

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would anyone give Parise the same cap hit Nash has? No assets required. That's if he'd come here..

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late July? is Howson checking into rehab during this time?
The Columbus big wigs need more time to plan where they are going to hide his body.

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06-22-2012, 04:51 PM
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If there is ANY truth to this rumor and the organization strikes out on some of the bigger guys like Nash (do not want anyway), Ryan (would cost a lot including, probably Step), I would love to go out and get Stalberg. I feel like he'd be an ideal fit on our third line and wouldn't come too expensive. He is a 15-20 goal secondary scorer that would give us a solid scoring boost to the Bottom 6, but I don't know what it would take? He had a career year last year in Chicago playing with some good players, so I don't know how high is value is. Maybe a 2nd and a solid prospect could get it done? Maybe for our 1st straight up? Stalberg is only 26 and had 40 + points last year, so he'd be just entering his prime. I'm not good on gauging value here.

Insert Stalberg and you get when everybody's back and fully healthy:

Hagelin/Richards/Gaborik
Cally/Step/Kreider
Artie/Doobie/Stalberg
Rupp/Boyle/Prust (Resigned)
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McDonagh/Girardi
Staal/Del Zotto
Erixon (Hopefully)/Stralman
(Bickel/Eminger, whoever they'd be more comfortable bringing back)

Hank
Biron

Allows everybody to continue to develop and it doesn't break the bank for anybody without giving up our best assets. I'm a big fan of Stalberg, so I can't say what the rest of the board would think.
You may be onto something

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I swear, can we please get out of tra talk with this lunatic. I want nothing to do with Nash anymore.
Isn't this happened when we tried trading for Jagr a while back? He's a mad man.

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I bet all GM's are like Turk and JD with Hooch

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would anyone give Parise the same cap hit Nash has? No assets required. That's if he'd come here..
No. He doesn't solve much for us.

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would anyone give Parise the same cap hit Nash has? No assets required. That's if he'd come here..
No, because Parise is going to get a Richards-esque cap circumvention deal around 12 years. That type of deal will pay him more actual money than Nash, but at a smaller cap hit. $7m cap hit deal is my ceiling on that type of deal for Parise.

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No. He doesn't solve much for us.
Except for a goal scoring top 6 forward we are looking for?

I understand you might not want to give him the cap hit and years, but he solves nothing?

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lol @ market heating up. There will be no one to ****ing meet his demands. Howson is a ****tard.

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Howsen is horrendous GM

I like Bobrovsky move but his treating Nash like he is Gretzky is gonna cost him in end

Offers wont get better as this ordeal goes longer

He will end up either taking a lesser package later on or having a disgrunted Nash in lockeroom

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Except for a goal scoring top 6 forward we are looking for?

I understand you might not want to give him the cap hit and years, but he solves nothing?
I mean he'll add about the same amount of goal scoring Callahan offers. I should have reworded.

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lol @ market heating up. There will be no one to ****ing meet his demands. Howson is a ****tard.
Exactly. I think demand goes down if anything, teams aren't waiting around all offseason for Nash.

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