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06-22-2012, 05:01 PM
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Yeah cause at 33 he has one trade suitor, maybe two.

At 36 teams are going to really line-up for him.

And I'm hoping the bolded part of your quote is meant to be a joke...cause if it isn't
Can you name a single contract that has proven immovable in the NHL?

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06-22-2012, 05:03 PM
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That is what you said also when JFJ acquired Vesa Toskala..

You even started thread explaining how Leafs goaltending had improved, and was well worth the 1st and 2nd round picks traded, because his addition would push Leafs into the playoffs.
Except Luongo is an elite goalie and far better than Toskala ever was. Can everyone put their hate for the Canucks/Luongo away and realize this? Jeez.

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Can you name a single contract that has proven immovable in the NHL?
Taking on Luongo now would be like Montreal taking on Gomez back when he could still play. Gomez was moved, so he was moveable, but do you want him? Once he started his decline, he became immovable. At his current state, he cannot be traded unless assets are going the other way. Luongo would be the same, except it would take longer for the contract to end.

At 33, Luongo can still play, and right now it looks like 1 team is after him. Once we no longer want him, there is nobody left, even if he doesn't degrade. As he gets older, it is more and more risk for any team to take him on, and less time for reward.

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Can you name a single contract that has proven immovable in the NHL?
Alexei Yashin

That is why NYI bought him out and are still paying his contract off.

Leafs were forced to buyout Tucker when his NMC contract was untradable, so all players bought-out by their organizations qualify as immovable.

If Luongo is acquired his NTC contract could be a future forced buyout before it expires.

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Can you name a single contract that has proven immovable in the NHL?
Every player that has been bought out was on an immovable contract .

Every player that was sent to the minors was on an immovable contract and yes the contract was off the cap but the fact remains the clubs would have much rather traded them to another team if they could have .

Also there's plenty of players teams would love to move if there were takers but since they can't trade them they have to ride out there contracts .

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06-22-2012, 07:23 PM
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So nobody can name an immovable contract.

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Alexei Yashin

That is why NYI bought him out and are still paying his contract off.

Leafs were forced to buyout Tucker when his NMC contract was untradable, so all players bought-out by their organizations qualify as immovable.

If Luongo is acquired his NTC contract could be a future forced buyout before it expires.
NTC =/= NMC meaning we can send him to the minors, at which point he would most certainly retire.
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So nobody can name an immovable contract.
Exactly this. There is no such thing (if they are not on the cap who cares, we have boat loads of money).

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06-22-2012, 07:33 PM
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So nobody can name an immovable contract.
Wade Redden
Rick Dipietro

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Wade Redden
Rick Dipietro
Wade Redden doesn't count against the cap, so who cares where he is.
Rick Dipietro is usually on LTIR, so cap is usually not an issue.

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Wade Redden doesn't count against the cap, so who cares where he is.
Rick Dipietro is usually on LTIR, so cap is usually not an issue.
The question was -- immovable contract -- both are not movable.

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The question was -- immovable contract -- both are not movable.
Ok. With that as a definition how does an "immovable contract" make Luongo any less valuable to us?

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Ok. With that as a definition how does an "immovable contract" make Luongo any less valuable to us?
It doesn't. That wasn't the question. Leafs have the money and should add Luongo. He fills a huge need. Worry about 5 years from now -- 5 years from now.

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The question was -- immovable contract -- both are not movable.
If it isn't moveable, how did it move?

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If it isn't moveable, how did it move?
Where did it move? By definition would be move to another organization. Don't be a smart ass.

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It doesn't. That wasn't the question. Leafs have the money and should add Luongo. He fills a huge need. Worry about 5 years from now -- 5 years from now.
Agree.

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06-22-2012, 08:20 PM
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Where did it move? By definition would be move to another organization. Don't be a smart ass.
No it wouldn't. If you've paid attention, Redden, Drury et al did nothing to stop from acquiring Gaborik, Richards and they were even trying for Nash. Worry pas ta brain. Everything is moveable.

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06-22-2012, 08:29 PM
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No it wouldn't. If you've paid attention, Redden, Drury et al did nothing to stop from acquiring Gaborik, Richards and they were even trying for Nash. Worry pas ta brain. Everything is moveable.
Do you understand when you buy a player out a portion of his contract still stays on your cap .

Also do you actually believe they're teams that arn't dying to moves players that can't .

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No it wouldn't. If you've paid attention, Redden, Drury et al did nothing to stop from acquiring Gaborik, Richards and they were even trying for Nash. Worry pas ta brain. Everything is moveable.
Exactly, the teams that get these big players have no problem burying contracts in the minors.

Little bit different then here I suppose, when Burke holds a press conference when he sends Orr down.

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06-22-2012, 08:37 PM
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No it wouldn't. If you've paid attention, Redden, Drury et al did nothing to stop from acquiring Gaborik, Richards and they were even trying for Nash. Worry pas ta brain. Everything is moveable.
Redden didn't move. Has nothing to do with acquisition of other players. The question was immovable contract. By definition his is.

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