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06-22-2012, 07:46 PM
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So you'd be ecstatic with ~9 goals per year? Something tells me if that's his max output, he's going to be spending very little time in Detroit.
I think you mean 14, which yeah I would be happy with, considering he's going to be on the 3rd or 4th line. Quit putting words in people's mouths, especially when you're essentially agreeing with me he will be nowhere near a full on replacement for Hudler like some people are asking. Seriously. It's ****ing annoying, especially when it's blatantly wrong/different than what people said.

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I like this signing. If you watch the video it does look like he could run into some problems with transferring to the NHL. However, seeing that he will be playing with a lot of Europeans who have all transferred quite nicely to the NA game, I am not worried about him trying the fancy cuts or huge toe drags.



This is what I am looking at when I watch his video and why I think he has the ability to become a faster Hudler and then some.

0:05 - sees there is no pass, shoots with a very quick release and accurate
0:14 - forunate blunder by defenseman, doesn't try to dangle and roofs one
0:28 - uses full width of ice to gain space, shoots out of his deke
0:43 - scoring position, hand eye
0:48 - quick hands/release, shoots out of deke
1:07 - burst of speed, elevates puck
1:19 - quick release in a good spot to shoot
1:25 - good puck control, finishes
1:44 - low, hard shot
2:25 - no explanation needed, beauty
2:44 - quick release, accurate and uses defenseman to screen
2:57 - sees no pass, shoots accurately
3:11 - awareness, great hands in tight. This goal happens 30+ times per year in the NHL.
3:23 - good hands with a defender on him, hand eye
3:56 - coaches wet dream. sees the shot, gets open, stick down and buries it
4:00 - defender draped on him, gets a good shot off
4:08 - Datsyukian. Period.
4:11 - Datsyukian. Period. Period.
4:19 - great awareness and control, finish

So a few things are very clear to me about Brunner. He has very good puck control, but doesn't get too flashy. He makes deliberate, effective moves and rarely makes too many. Very quick release and is accurate with his shots. Doesn't pass up a good shot for a slick pass. Breakaway speed and can handle the puck at that speed. Long reach. HEAD UP.

He has the basic skills to be effective over here. I know that this video only shows the goods. I'm sure he has plenty of bad clips somewhere, and I'm sure some of the things that I like about him don't happen every game and he could pass up shots to make a pass. We don't know.

What we do know is that he has speed, hands, an above average hockey IQ, and a quick accurate shot. In my opinion, he seems taylor made for the third line with Helm. If you get those two on a line with another big body that can finish the chances he gets you could be looking at the best third line in the league. You can't have Helm with a pass first guy, and Brunner doesn't seem to be. It's a good signing in my opinion because you could potentially have a great 3rd line winger that can fill in temporarily in a top 6 role, which is something we lacked badly this past season.

Good signing, nothing to lose. Very high reward, relatively low risk the way I see it. Thanks for reading if you did.

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06-22-2012, 09:24 PM
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I think you mean 14, which yeah I would be happy with, considering he's going to be on the 3rd or 4th line.
I was looking at his career numbers since he became a full-time player. But if you mean just last year, it's still not 14


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Quit putting words in people's mouths, especially when you're essentially agreeing with me he will be nowhere near a full on replacement for Hudler like some people are asking. Seriously. It's ****ing annoying, especially when it's blatantly wrong/different than what people said.
I did not put any words in your mouth, so relax. And I'm not making any predictions on how good this kid will be. Odds are, he won't be as good as Hudler. But he might be. He might even turn out better than Hudler. We'll have to wait and see.

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06-22-2012, 09:39 PM
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I was looking at his career numbers since he became a full-time player. But if you mean just last year, it's still not 14




I did not put any words in your mouth, so relax. And I'm not making any predictions on how good this kid will be. Odds are, he won't be as good as Hudler. But he might be. He might even turn out better than Hudler. We'll have to wait and see.
Edit: lol, honestly thought he had 27 for some reason.

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06-22-2012, 10:20 PM
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IMO, this guy will be battling for a roster spot, not filling in for Hudler.
He probably goes back to Switzerland if he does not make the team.

I think Nyquist is more likely to replace Hudler
Everyone knows that Samuelsson is going to replace Hudler....

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Everyone knows that Samuelsson is going to replace Hudler....
nah it will be Knuble.

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Everyone knows that Samuelsson is going to replace Hudler....
Just like Lebda and Lilja will replace Lids and Stuart.

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Good post Zetterberger. Here is my take from the video you posted.

1. I think they are sending Homer a message. Did you happen to catch Brunner's number?
2. At least he has a name that is a nickname. What are you going to call him other than Brunner?
3. I can never get enough Euro metal. Never. Ever.
4. Brunner looks to have good hand eye coordination.
5. He cuts through the slot and shoots the puck - is that legal?
6. My man Brunner has a good release. Recognize.
7. Dude scored a lacrosse goal. Bad. Ass.
8. Some guys have a nose for the net and he may be one of those guys. Maybe. No harm in signing him and giving him a shot.
9. Oh wait! Are they sending Jiri Hudler a message? Oh God, please make it so.

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06-22-2012, 11:00 PM
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I like this signing. If you watch the video it does look like he could run into some problems with transferring to the NHL. However, seeing that he will be playing with a lot of Europeans who have all transferred quite nicely to the NA game, I am not worried about him trying the fancy cuts or huge toe drags.



This is what I am looking at when I watch his video and why I think he has the ability to become a faster Hudler and then some.

0:05 - sees there is no pass, shoots with a very quick release and accurate
0:14 - forunate blunder by defenseman, doesn't try to dangle and roofs one
0:28 - uses full width of ice to gain space, shoots out of his deke
0:43 - scoring position, hand eye
0:48 - quick hands/release, shoots out of deke
1:07 - burst of speed, elevates puck
1:19 - quick release in a good spot to shoot
1:25 - good puck control, finishes
1:44 - low, hard shot
2:25 - no explanation needed, beauty
2:44 - quick release, accurate and uses defenseman to screen
2:57 - sees no pass, shoots accurately
3:11 - awareness, great hands in tight. This goal happens 30+ times per year in the NHL.
3:23 - good hands with a defender on him, hand eye
3:56 - coaches wet dream. sees the shot, gets open, stick down and buries it
4:00 - defender draped on him, gets a good shot off
4:08 - Datsyukian. Period.
4:11 - Datsyukian. Period. Period.
4:19 - great awareness and control, finish

So a few things are very clear to me about Brunner. He has very good puck control, but doesn't get too flashy. He makes deliberate, effective moves and rarely makes too many. Very quick release and is accurate with his shots. Doesn't pass up a good shot for a slick pass. Breakaway speed and can handle the puck at that speed. Long reach. HEAD UP.

He has the basic skills to be effective over here. I know that this video only shows the goods. I'm sure he has plenty of bad clips somewhere, and I'm sure some of the things that I like about him don't happen every game and he could pass up shots to make a pass. We don't know.

What we do know is that he has speed, hands, an above average hockey IQ, and a quick accurate shot. In my opinion, he seems taylor made for the third line with Helm. If you get those two on a line with another big body that can finish the chances he gets you could be looking at the best third line in the league. You can't have Helm with a pass first guy, and Brunner doesn't seem to be. It's a good signing in my opinion because you could potentially have a great 3rd line winger that can fill in temporarily in a top 6 role, which is something we lacked badly this past season.

Good signing, nothing to lose. Very high reward, relatively low risk the way I see it. Thanks for reading if you did.
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Good post Zetterberger. Here is my take from the video you posted.

1. I think they are sending Homer a message. Did you happen to catch Brunner's number?
2. At least he has a name that is a nickname. What are you going to call him other than Brunner?
3. I can never get enough Euro metal. Never. Ever.
4. Brunner looks to have good hand eye coordination.
5. He cuts through the slot and shoots the puck - is that legal?
6. My man Brunner has a good release. Recognize.
7. Dude scored a lacrosse goal. Bad. Ass.
8. Some guys have a nose for the net and he may be one of those guys. Maybe. No harm in signing him and giving him a shot.
9. Oh wait! Are they sending Jiri Hudler a message? Oh God, please make it so.

All I'm seeing is a guy capitalizing on brutal defensemen and goalies. Do people believe in defense in Switzerland?

Good for Brunner for making the best of it, though.

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Brunner might not be huge, but I'm definitely willing to take a chance on those skills. Maybe he's just a great euro league player, or maybe he can actually chip in at the NHL level. We'll have to see for ourselves. but not a bad gamble.

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All I'm seeing is a guy capitalizing on brutal defensemen and goalies. Do people believe in defense in Switzerland?

Good for Brunner for making the best of it, though.
So you are not looking at any of the things in his game that look like they can turn into real positives in the NHL, and are only focusing on what will be his downfall?

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So you are not looking at any of the things in his game that look like they can turn into real positives in the NHL, and are only focusing on what will be his downfall?
Isn't that what this board does best?

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All I'm seeing is a guy capitalizing on brutal defensemen and goalies. Do people believe in defense in Switzerland?

Good for Brunner for making the best of it, though.
Well, a highlight package generally makes d and goalies look bad because its meant to make the other guy look really good

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I'm excited though he might bust big time (some said on these forum that he's a little headcase, too). Right handed, fast, good hands and shot, seems to have good IQ.

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Red Wings' Mike Babcock high on Damien Brunner, views him as a top-six forward right away

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....babcock_h.html

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Red Wings' Mike Babcock high on Damien Brunner, views him as a top-six forward right away

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....babcock_h.html
Watch Holland pass on Semin\Parise and say this guy is our "top-six signing".

From what i'm hearing it sounds like Suter is leaning towards Detroit, but Parise will likely not come here. If Suter is all we get we are still in trouble next year. Semin would be an acceptable alternative if we could also acquire some depth on F (like Jokinen).

I don't think this guy plays more than 10 games in the NHL this year.

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Red Wings' Mike Babcock high on Damien Brunner, views him as a top-six forward right away

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....babcock_h.html
What does this line mean?

"I stood in the hallway and let him walk by me. Now, does that mean he’s any good?"

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I wouldn't mind if Brunner was in Grand Rapids. I really don't see how we're gonna fit Brunner on our team without moves... Ugh. This is starting to frustrate me.

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I wouldn't mind if Brunner was in Grand Rapids. I really don't see how we're gonna fit Brunner on our team without moves... Ugh. This is starting to frustrate me.
I guess it at least shows the Wings are willing to take roster risks. Maybe they'll take a shot at Schultz.

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Babcock just found his new Cleary. He sounds obsessed

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Babcock just found his new Cleary. He sounds obsessed
I wonder if this is Ken Holland throwing Babcock a bone after he was so upset about missing out on Burns last year.

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I find it very hard to believe that Brunner will be on the Wings top six. I would love it, but it seems so unlikely. I have faith in Babcock and hope his judgement proves to be right.

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Babcock really sounds geeked about this kid. And from the sounds of it, Babcock is going to give him the chance to succeed. If you ask Hudler or Leino, that's half the battle.

I also love hearing that he's a strong, fast skater. That in itself makes this a better move than Leino or Brunnstrom.

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So you are not looking at any of the things in his game that look like they can turn into real positives in the NHL, and are only focusing on what will be his downfall?
I'm saying good for him for capitalizing on his chances, but if you guys think the Dmen in the NHL are going to be that ineffective to allow him to continue to do those things, you're going to be disappointed. I am excited to see what he can do for us though. Nothing negative about him at all. Just silly to base things off Swiss highlights.

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What does this line mean?

"I stood in the hallway and let him walk by me. Now, does that mean he’s any good?"
In this context it means, babcock saw that he walked with authority and confidence and looked like a player

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