HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Philadelphia Flyers
Notices

Offseason Thread III - Laughton all the way to the bank

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-22-2012, 10:40 PM
  #76
achdumeingute
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,176
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krishna View Post
They better hope they pick up more defensive players quick
Exactly, they dumped the wrong d man. Martin makes Carle look like Scott Stevens. Michalek is pretty darn reliable as a 3.

achdumeingute is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:44 PM
  #77
FreshPerspective
We don't need one!
 
FreshPerspective's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Italy
Posts: 9,668
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS View Post
Yeah, they are gambling right now. They made cap space for nothing that is guaranteed. I hope it falls through and they don't get Suter, Weber or Parise.
Oh dear God no! Flyers might as well ask to move out West or swap with LA if Pitt lands Weber and a guy like Parise. It's been mentioned that Pitt wants to unload Martin's contract as well.

Pitt is trying to troll the whole league but mostly the Flyers....

FreshPerspective is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:48 PM
  #78
Krishna
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Canada
Posts: 81,673
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutsiephan View Post
Oh dear God no! Flyers might as well ask to move out West or swap with LA if Pitt lands Weber and a guy like Parise. It's been mentioned that Pitt wants to unload Martin's contract as well.

Pitt is trying to troll the whole league but mostly the Flyers....
Who would Pittsburgh honestly trade for Weber? There's really nothing that Pittsburgh would realistically want

Krishna is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:49 PM
  #79
sobrien
RAFFLCOPTER
 
sobrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Jersey/Memphis
Country: United States
Posts: 6,337
vCash: 500
I'm a bit confused by what the Pens are doing...I see no problem with a total defensive overhaul, but every defenseman they acquired tonight is Letang-esque (Dumoulin, Pouliot, Maatta, all athletic puck-movers with offensive upside). Paul Martin is still more offensive than defensive, plus they have Morrow and Despres coming up eventually...

(In 3-4 years):
Letang - Maatta
Pouliot - Yandle (speculative)
Dumoulin - Despres?

It's a log jam. No Morrow, no Engellend. ALL offensive.


Also with Staal gone, who's going to match up against Giroux?

sobrien is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:53 PM
  #80
Krishna
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Canada
Posts: 81,673
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobrien View Post
I'm a bit confused by what the Pens are doing...I see no problem with a total defensive overhaul, but every defenseman they acquired tonight is Letang-esque (Dumoulin, Pouliot, Maatta, all athletic puck-movers with offensive upside). Paul Martin is still more offensive than defensive, plus they have Morrow and Despres coming up eventually...

(In 3-4 years):
Letang - Maatta
Pouliot - Yandle (speculative)
Dumoulin - Despres?

It's a log jam. No Morrow, no Engellend. ALL offensive.


Also with Staal gone, who's going to match up against Giroux?
I have no idea what they are doing either.. Seems like they all want to go all in on suter and if they fail, let the prospects sink or swim

Krishna is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:53 PM
  #81
Banger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 872
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobrien View Post
I'm a bit confused by what the Pens are doing...I see no problem with a total defensive overhaul, but every defenseman they acquired tonight is Letang-esque (Dumoulin, Pouliot, Maatta, all athletic puck-movers with offensive upside). Paul Martin is still more offensive than defensive, plus they have Morrow and Despres coming up eventually...

(In 3-4 years):
Letang - Maatta
Pouliot - Yandle (speculative)
Dumoulin - Despres?

It's a log jam. No Morrow, no Engellend. ALL offensive.


Also with Staal gone, who's going to match up against Giroux?
Well look at the dev's, they didn't have big crease moving dman but they were mobile and could skate.

Banger is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:55 PM
  #82
FLYguy3911
Registered User
 
FLYguy3911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Country: United States
Posts: 3,547
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobrien View Post
I'm a bit confused by what the Pens are doing...I see no problem with a total defensive overhaul, but every defenseman they acquired tonight is Letang-esque (Dumoulin, Pouliot, Maatta, all athletic puck-movers with offensive upside). Paul Martin is still more offensive than defensive, plus they have Morrow and Despres coming up eventually...

(In 3-4 years):
Letang - Maatta
Pouliot - Yandle (speculative)
Dumoulin - Despres?

It's a log jam. No Morrow, no Engellend. ALL offensive.


Also with Staal gone, who's going to match up against Giroux?
Offensive defensemen are so much better in NHL 12.

FLYguy3911 is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:57 PM
  #83
BernieParent
HFB Partner
 
BernieParent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Montreal, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,429
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobrien View Post
I'm a bit confused by what the Pens are doing...I see no problem with a total defensive overhaul, but every defenseman they acquired tonight is Letang-esque (Dumoulin, Pouliot, Maatta, all athletic puck-movers with offensive upside). Paul Martin is still more offensive than defensive, plus they have Morrow and Despres coming up eventually...

(In 3-4 years):
Letang - Maatta
Pouliot - Yandle (speculative)
Dumoulin - Despres?

It's a log jam. No Morrow, no Engellend. ALL offensive.


Also with Staal gone, who's going to match up against Giroux?
Their end-of-playoffs take-home message: we need to add offense to outscore the Flyers next playoffs! We've got to win those 15-14 games.

BernieParent is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:57 PM
  #84
FreshPerspective
We don't need one!
 
FreshPerspective's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Italy
Posts: 9,668
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Banger View Post
Well look at the dev's, they didn't have big crease moving dman but they were mobile and could skate.
There is method to Pitt's madness....I think people are being too dismissive ..they are not done either. I hope though they do faceplant....Shero is no dope however

FreshPerspective is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:58 PM
  #85
achdumeingute
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,176
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Banger View Post
Well look at the dev's, they didn't have big crease moving dman but they were mobile and could skate.
but all of their d guys are tough guys...not afraid to be physical/block shots

Well maybe not larsson so much.

achdumeingute is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 10:59 PM
  #86
LetsGoFlyers1825
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 720
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutsiephan View Post
There is method to Pitt's madness....I think people are being too dismissive ..they are not done either. I hope though they do faceplant....Shero is no dope however
This. I am really preoccupied tonight. Shero has something up his sleeve, and frankly I am terrified to find out what it is.

LetsGoFlyers1825 is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:04 PM
  #87
sobrien
RAFFLCOPTER
 
sobrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Jersey/Memphis
Country: United States
Posts: 6,337
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutsiephan View Post
There is method to Pitt's madness....I think people are being too dismissive ..they are not done either. I hope though they do faceplant....Shero is no dope however
Quote:
Originally Posted by LetsGoFlyers1825 View Post
This. I am really preoccupied tonight. Shero has something up his sleeve, and frankly I am terrified to find out what it is.
I agree. He'll make it look good by the start of the season.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Banger View Post
Well look at the dev's, they didn't have big crease moving dman but they were mobile and could skate.
Uhhh not sure the Devs are the best example. Volchenkov, Fayne, and Salvador aren't exactly Rathje and Hatcher...but they're no Letang or Bouwmeester either.

sobrien is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:14 PM
  #88
augster
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 65
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingForsberg View Post
What?
The ALLSportsIntel guy. Is just some kid.

augster is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:17 PM
  #89
King Forsberg
21 68 88 16 44 28
 
King Forsberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 5,004
vCash: 300
Quote:
Originally Posted by augster View Post
The ALLSportsIntel guy. Is just some kid.
Oh. Haha, I thought you were calling me a kid.

King Forsberg is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:20 PM
  #90
achdumeingute
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,176
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutsiephan View Post
There is method to Pitt's madness....I think people are being too dismissive ..they are not done either. I hope though they do faceplant....Shero is no dope however
They have absolutely took a step back right now for next season. I personally don't like the guy they picked at 8. Sutter is a good player, but not Staal....he's one of the best two-way players in the NHL, buried on a deep roster.

achdumeingute is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:23 PM
  #91
FreshPerspective
We don't need one!
 
FreshPerspective's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Italy
Posts: 9,668
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by achdumeingute View Post
They have absolutely took a step back right now for next season. I personally don't like the guy they picked at 8. Sutter is a good player, but not Staal....he's one of the best two-way players in the NHL, buried on a deep roster.
Like I said....he's positioning himself. He's not done.....Sutter is more complimentary as a 3rd line center behind Crosby and Malkin. Better for their chemistry IMO since Staal as you note was being overshadowed and under appreciated. I just think people are being too dismissive. Again..Shero is no dope.

FreshPerspective is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:23 PM
  #92
Krishna
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Canada
Posts: 81,673
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by achdumeingute View Post
They have absolutely took a step back right now for next season. I personally don't like the guy they picked at 8. Sutter is a good player, but not Staal....he's one of the best two-way players in the NHL, buried on a deep roster.
They are hoping to spend all that space on Suter or Parise/semin

It may turn out bad for them

Krishna is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:28 PM
  #93
achdumeingute
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,176
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutsiephan View Post
Like I said....he's positioning himself. He's not done.....Sutter is more complimentary as a 3rd line center behind Crosby and Malkin. Better for their chemistry IMO since Staal as you note was being overshadowed and under appreciated. I just think people are being too dismissive. Again..Shero is no dope.
I'd rather have Staal any day of the week. Thats why they tried to give him 60 mil..... Crosby is one hit away from retirement. Staal might have been the best 2nd line centerman in the league, and was CLEARLY the best 3....

UFA...could really be a risky proposition. I'm not shaking if they get Parise, who is a very good player and will make their offense better (would replace staal), but their 12 defense is down right now.

achdumeingute is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:32 PM
  #94
lancer247
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,878
vCash: 500
How far up do the Flyers have to move up to get Dalton Thrower or Matt Finn?

They have 45th pick and would probably have to move up 10 picks i am guessing.

lancer247 is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:37 PM
  #95
sa cyred
Yea....the Flyers...
 
sa cyred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Traveling...
Country: Cuba
Posts: 14,837
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancer247 View Post
How far up do the Flyers have to move up to get Dalton Thrower or Matt Finn?

They have 45th pick and would probably have to move up 10 picks i am guessing.
Finn and bystrom will most likely be gone by our pick. Thrower might be here because it seems alot of people are afraid throwers offensive potenial wont move on to he pros (and thats a huge factor for him). His defensive play is questionable. Go for pokka if he is there, bystrom or finn if they fall, zharkov, or even hyka

sa cyred is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:38 PM
  #96
sobrien
RAFFLCOPTER
 
sobrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Jersey/Memphis
Country: United States
Posts: 6,337
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krishna View Post
They are hoping to spend all that space on Suter or Parise/semin

It may turn out bad for them
Can't see Semin, but I wouldn't count out the chance of PIT landing BOTH Parise and Suter. And what if they mobilize to acquire Yandle on top of that? Not sure they have the pieces for it...but Shero has money, he's like a kid in a candy store.


Flyers may not want to wait around for the Pens to start dictating available players.

sobrien is offline  
Old
06-22-2012, 11:46 PM
  #97
LetsGoFlyers1825
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 720
vCash: 50
Today is June 23rd, afterall. Flyers have to make massive moves.

LetsGoFlyers1825 is offline  
Old
06-23-2012, 12:12 AM
  #98
Prongo
Beer
 
Prongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 12,658
vCash: 500
https://twitter.com/RandyJMiller/sta...97052576403457

Quote:
So much for ‪#Flyers‬ making run at Zach Parise. From what I hear, he's headed to Penguins. Apparently Parise & Crosby want to play together.
This makes me extremely angry. Very very ****ing angry.

Prongo is offline  
Old
06-23-2012, 12:15 AM
  #99
Krishna
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Canada
Posts: 81,673
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyersfan9180 View Post
https://twitter.com/RandyJMiller/sta...97052576403457



This makes me extremely angry. Very very ****ing angry.


Parise apparently wants to play together with half the players in the league..

Langenbrunner, Suter, Giroux, Crosby.. Who else?

Krishna is offline  
Old
06-23-2012, 12:19 AM
  #100
sobrien
RAFFLCOPTER
 
sobrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Jersey/Memphis
Country: United States
Posts: 6,337
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krishna View Post


Parise apparently wants to play together with half the players in the league..

Langenbrunner, Suter, Giroux, Crosby.. Who else?
When did he say Giroux?

Langenbrunner and Suter are UFAs and PIT has money....very possible they land the lot of em.

sobrien is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:37 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.