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2012 NHL Draft [NBCSN, TSN, NHLN, 6/22 & 6/23, 2012] NSH first picks @ 37th & 50th

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06-22-2012, 10:29 PM
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Z had a partial NTC I believe, possible we weren't on his list. Would have been a solid addition.

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Z had a partial NTC I believe, possible we weren't on his list. Would have been a solid addition.
This opens the way for Suter to Pitts. Wouldn't be surprised to have it announced in the next 36 hours.

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06-22-2012, 10:46 PM
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If Suter is being honest with us and there really is still a chance he will re-sign here, you have to keep his rights.
How does anyone still believe anything Suter says anymore? Suter has not been honest with us since he signed his last contract.

Suter has gotten everything he wanted. He said all that stuff so that Poile wouldn't trade him and he could get one more chance to win here in Nashville, which he pretty much pissed away, with that abysmal effort in Phx.

The press conference has already been written. He's already got it written. Get ready, as soon as he signs with ____, "I always liked Nashville. They were the team that drafted me. I had hoped something would get worked out. In the end, this was just better for my family."

The classic "family", statement, you know, the one that you're not supposed to be able to refute. The only question in this whole drama anymore is whether he lobs a pot shot at the Nashville fans like Hamhuis did.

F this guy.

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06-22-2012, 10:51 PM
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Frk.
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Frk u?
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06-22-2012, 11:09 PM
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Frk sounds exciting, but man, with the amount of hype he's getting I'd be scared to draft him. The super-hyped fallers almost always bust. Frk could be an exception though.

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06-22-2012, 11:59 PM
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Frk sounds exciting, but man, with the amount of hype he's getting I'd be scared to draft him. The super-hyped fallers almost always bust. Frk could be an exception though.
In a draft this shallow I think taking a risk on the faller is the best way to go. There won't be any guarantees in the 2nd round this year, that's for sure.

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06-23-2012, 12:31 AM
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Here's the top rated skaters left, according to Central Scouting

14 SISSONS, COLTON KELOWNA WHL 05-Nov-1993 6' 0.5" 187 lbs * C
16 FINN, MATTHEW GUELPH OHL 24-Feb-1994 6' 0.25" 192 lbs * D
20 FRK, MARTIN HALIFAX QMJHL 05-Oct-1993 5' 11.75" 200 lbs * RW
21 WINTHER, MIKE PRINCE ALBERT WHL 09-Jan-1994 5' 11.75" 170 lbs * C
22 DI GIUSEPPE, PHILLIP U OF MICHIGAN CCHA 09-Oct-1993 5' 11.5" 176 lbs * LW
24 KOSMACHUK, SCOTT GUELPH OHL 24-Jan-1994 5' 11.5" 183 lbs * RW
26 THROWER, DALTON SASKATOON WHL 20-Dec-1993 5' 11.5" 189 lbs * D
27 NIEVES, CRISTOVAL KENT SCHOOL HIGH-CT 23-Jan-1994 6' 2.75" 184 lbs * C
29 KERDILES, NICOLAS USA U-18 USHL 11-Jan-1994 6' 1.5" 201 lbs * LW
31 SIELOFF, PATRICK USA U-18 USHL 15-May-1994 6' 0.0" 198 lbs * D
32 ZHARKOV, DANIIL BELLEVILLE OHL 06-Feb-1994 6' 3.0" 202 lbs * LW
33 STEPHENSON, CHANDLER REGINA WHL 22-Apr-1994 5' 10.5" 192 lbs * C/LW
35 MAIDENS, JARROD OWEN SOUND OHL 04-Mar-1994 6' 0.5" 178 lbs * C/LW
36 KURKER, SAMUEL ST. JOHN'S PREP HIGH-MA 08-Apr-1994 6' 1.5" 198 lbs * RW
37 SMITH, GEMEL OWEN SOUND OHL 16-Apr-1994 5' 10.0" 161 lbs * C
38 VAIL, BRADY WINDSOR OHL 11-Mar-1994 6' 0.25" 195 lbs * C
39 SUTTER, LUKAS SASKATOON WHL 04-Oct-1993 5' 11.75" 214 lbs * C
40 ATHANASIOU, ANDREAS LONDON OHL 06-Aug-1994 6' 0.0" 180 lbs * C/LW
41 RICHARD, TANNER GUELPH OHL 06-Apr-1993 5' 11.75" 182 lbs * C
42 BOZON, TIM KAMLOOPS WHL 24-Mar-1994 6' 0.25" 175 lbs * LW


3 COLLBERG, SEBASTIAN FROLUNDA SWEDEN 5' 11.0" 176 RW
6 ABERG, PONTUS DJURGARDEN SWEDEN 5' 11.0" 194 LW
7 POKKA, VILLE KARPAT FINLAND 6' 0.0" 196 D
8 BYSTROM, LUDWIG MODO JR. SWE-JR. 6' 0.75" 208 D
9 PROKHORKIN, NIKOLAY CSKA 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 2.5" 191 LW
10 SLEPYSHEV, ANTON NOVOKUZNETSK RUSSIA 6' 2.0" 187 LW
11 VAINONEN, MIKKO HIFK JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 3.0" 205 D
12 LINDELL, ESA JOKERIT JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 3.0" 194 D
13 OSNOVIN, VYACHESLAV CHELYABINSK 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 0.0" 188 C
14 KARLSSON, ERIK FROLUNDA JR. SWE-JR. 5' 11.75" 162 C/LW

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06-23-2012, 12:38 AM
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Exactly. Unlike us with Suter/Weber. Not really a comparable situation.
There will never be a perfect comparison to us.

I agree with the original post. Shero is such much more proactive as a GM-- and the right kind of proactive. He gave Staal his best offer. He refused; he traded him while he still has a ton a value knowing that he was likely going to lose him for nothing in a year. Got a ton in return which will ensure Pittsburgh stays a contender for even longer.

Not a great return for Michalek, but he's obviously clearing space. He got Michalek for free anyway.

Two good defenseman traded today in Michalek & Vish. Cost way less than what we pay for for short term rentals.

Riberio would have also been the best center to ever play for us (sans injured Forsberg).

Poile, THIS IS TIME TO IMPROVE YOUR TEAM; enough with these shot-in-the-dark deadline rentals that have minimal time to gel with the team and cost a fortune!

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06-23-2012, 01:16 AM
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There will never be a perfect comparison to us.

I agree with the original post. Shero is such much more proactive as a GM-- and the right kind of proactive. He gave Staal his best offer. He refused; he traded him while he still has a ton a value knowing that he was likely going to lose him for nothing in a year. Got a ton in return which will ensure Pittsburgh stays a contender for even longer.

Not a great return for Michalek, but he's obviously clearing space. He got Michalek for free anyway.

Two good defenseman traded today in Michalek & Vish. Cost way less than what we pay for for short term rentals.

Riberio would have also been the best center to ever play for us (sans injured Forsberg).

Poile, THIS IS TIME TO IMPROVE YOUR TEAM; enough with these shot-in-the-dark deadline rentals that have minimal time to gel with the team and cost a fortune!
I agree with most of your post. But if you are suggesting we should have traded Weber or Suter last offseason then I highly disagree, and most other people do too (not just Preds fans). Making your team considerably weaker before a Cup run, just because you are scared he will walk away, is absolutely the wrong move. The goal of hockey is to win games, not maximize assets.

Pittsburgh is just as good without Staal. They could afford to move him. If we had an immediate replacement for Suter, then sure trade him.

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06-23-2012, 01:37 AM
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Also, Ribeiro only has 1 year left on his contract. By your logic, we shouldn't have any players in contract years because they might walk for nothing. Why do you want Ribs and not Suter?

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06-23-2012, 01:49 AM
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doubtful. division rivals is one thing.. but teams traded within conferences happen all the time. highly doubt that was a condition.
But if there is realignment anytime soon we may very well be division rivals. And as was said, ribs only has one year left. I would have traded assets for him at the deadline last season because that effectively gets him for two years but I would not give a lot for having him for one year only. That is basically a rental.

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06-23-2012, 04:20 AM
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I agree with most of your post. But if you are suggesting we should have traded Weber or Suter last offseason then I highly disagree, and most other people do too (not just Preds fans). Making your team considerably weaker before a Cup run, just because you are scared he will walk away, is absolutely the wrong move. The goal of hockey is to win games, not maximize assets.

Pittsburgh is just as good without Staal. They could afford to move him. If we had an immediate replacement for Suter, then sure trade him.
Can't disagree more that Suter shouldn't have been moved before the deadline. Your assume that we would have "tanked" had we traded Suter, not made the playoffs, etc.

That is not the case. We would have made the playoffs regardless, and whatever asset(s) we would have gotten in return for Suter would have been there to help us not only during the playoff run, but also in the years to come.

And this whole "Cup run" you speak of wasn't as much of a "Cup run". Getting smoked in 5 games by a Phx team that got smoked in the next round isn't really that close. I'm just not that interested in mortgaging our future by letting Suter walk just so we can get trucked in Conference Semi's.

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Can't disagree more that Suter shouldn't have been moved before the deadline. Your assume that we would have "tanked" had we traded Suter, not made the playoffs, etc.

That is not the case. We would have made the playoffs regardless, and whatever asset(s) we would have gotten in return for Suter would have been there to help us not only during the playoff run, but also in the years to come.

And this whole "Cup run" you speak of wasn't as much of a "Cup run". Getting smoked in 5 games by a Phx team that got smoked in the next round isn't really that close. I'm just not that interested in mortgaging our future by letting Suter walk just so we can get trucked in Conference Semi's.
So why didn't NJ trade Parise since he might be walking too? What about LA and Penner? How about any team that made the playoffs who had impending UFA's? You don't trade your best players at the trade deadline if you have a decent shot in the playoffs. The Preds had a very good shot this year, they fell short.

People talk about Poile and taking chances. When he does take a chance, by trying to maximize a player like Suter, people complain in hindsight that we should've gotten something for him. Easy to say. What if we went one round further, would there still be these same complaints? If Poile trades Suter, people complain because he didn't have faith in the team he built.

Shero is successful because he has the luxury of having the two best players in the world playing for him. Team that with an owner who has championships and a bank account to afford a roster to the cap and it's a great situation for him. If we had owners who had deep pockets AND the thirst to win like Lemieux and his partners then we'd see different results. Until the owners actually spend to the cap I don't blame Poile for being fiscally AND asset responsible(short and long term). He has to be or this team isn't very good.

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Can't disagree more that Suter shouldn't have been moved before the deadline. Your assume that we would have "tanked" had we traded Suter, not made the playoffs, etc.

That is not the case. We would have made the playoffs regardless, and whatever asset(s) we would have gotten in return for Suter would have been there to help us not only during the playoff run, but also in the years to come.

And this whole "Cup run" you speak of wasn't as much of a "Cup run". Getting smoked in 5 games by a Phx team that got smoked in the next round isn't really that close. I'm just not that interested in mortgaging our future by letting Suter walk just so we can get trucked in Conference Semi's.
This is all with the benefit of hindsight.

We were all like "woohoo, Cup finals here we come" right up until Mike Smith decided to become Patrick Roy.

Trading possibly your best player in the year that you have probably your best shot at a Cup is absolutely the wrong move. You roll the dice, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

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Thinking we don't pick at 37 and 50 today, but instead look to move up. Would love to get Frk...

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Best parts of the draft?

Bos trolling Habs fans by picking Subban

NJ trolling it's own fans....


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Pontus Aberg, 5'11", 189 lb. winger from Djurgarden IF Stockholm. Speedy kid, lots of skill... a sniper with our first pick of the draft? Is this real life?

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Winnipeg skipping a major need in Forsberg for a risky college player in Trouba is quite a troll job as well

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Wow, congratulations on picking Åberg, getting him this late is absolutely amazing.

This guy is a beast.

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Detroit takes Frk the pick before us. I'm sure everyone will be crushed.

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Colton Sissons, 6'1", 190 lb. winger for the Kelowna Rockets.

Future Vancouver Canuck.

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Meh, a long term project (he's in Sweden for at least 2 more years), then probably 2 years on NA ice. It'll be 2016-2017 before we see this guy.

And there goes Frk to De-freakin-troit.

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Wow the preds picked a scoring forward 1st. Wish we could have gotten Frk but Detroit go him first. Won't be an immediate impact but a good pick for the future

Another forward is Sessons. What is happening no defenseman or goalies in the first 2 picks. LOL

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