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06-23-2012, 12:45 PM
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would you guys do MacArthur for Suter's rights + '13 3rd + '13 4th ?
then do a Schenn for JvR swap ?
IIRC Suter has said that he's not interested in signing with a Canadian team and most likely wants to stay in the West, so personally I wouldn't. MacArthur is becoming a pretty underrated player around here.

As well as Lupul/Bozak/Kessel played, in terms of facing the opposition's best, MacArthur/Grabovski/Kulemin was our top line last season, and were much more reliable defensively than Lupul/Bozak/Kessel.... not to mention they can actually cycle the puck. I'd include MacArthur in a package for a top-six upgrade, but not for picks or a player's rights or anything along those lines. He's a good top-9 player.

EDIT: well, maybe for the rights to Parise, because I think he'd sign here if we threw enough money at him, but IMO Suter is headed to Detroit or Minnesota.

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Come on Burke do something - your job is on the line.
Schenn isn't working out in T.O.
If you're running with Dion - then Schenn needs to be on the move.

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I'm hoping for Colin Wilson of Nashville. Burke was seen talking to them.

As for Philly, I really don't want JVR, unless Philly takes a bad salary off our hands. JVR is payed way too much for his health problems and production.

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I'd be fine with Schenn for JVR or Simmonds.
How is the value for these two the same?

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People are underating Schenn here. I still think he has the potential to be a top pairing shut-down d-man. If we were to pair him with Phaneuf this year we could see his true colours. I'd only deal him for JVR straight up (because he also has high-end potential), not a 2nd/3rd line tweener in Simmonds.

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would you guys do MacArthur for Suter's rights + '13 3rd + '13 4th ?
then do a Schenn for JvR swap ?
Yes, To the first.

We'd have to add a forward prospect to the 2nd(Mckegg or Ashton) imo

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would you guys do MacArthur for Suter's rights + '13 3rd + '13 4th ?
then do a Schenn for JvR swap ?
I would definitely bite on it. I might even go as far as making those picks a conditional 2nd if Suter doesn't sign.

Schenn for JVR would be an interesting one, just because of all the pieces that would be involved. We still would have to move salary somewhere if we plan on being players in the Parise sweepstakes and resigning Suter if we were to go there.

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How is the value for these two the same?
Who do you think is worth more?

Id want Simmonds if I had the choice.

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would you guys do MacArthur for Suter's rights + '13 3rd + '13 4th ?
then do a Schenn for JvR swap ?
macarthur for rights, a third and a fourth? hell no...

and no to schenn for jvr

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I wouldn't be opposed to a Schenn for JVR swap.

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People are underating Schenn here. I still think he has the potential to be a top pairing shut-down d-man. If we were to pair him with Phaneuf this year we could see his true colours. I'd only deal him for JVR straight up (because he also has high-end potential), not a 2nd/3rd line tweener in Simmonds.
I don't think anyone is doubting that Schenn still has tons of potential - he's just frustrated in T.O - He didn't like playing Wilson's system. He has issues with Dion. The franchise is a perennial loser. I think the best thing for him and the team is a change. If we could get a decent Top6 coming back it would address a much bigger need then Schenn sulking in the press box.

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I'd be fine with Schenn for JVR or Simmonds.
Yup. Don't think Flyers will trade Simmonds, JVR on the other hand I think will eventually be traded.

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Schenn alone is not enough for JVR but is too much for Simmonds (imo he is a REALLY good 3rd liner and an okay 2nd liner). I would not want to trade Schenn for a really good 3rd liner (you can find them in FA - minus Army :p)

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Justin Schultz becomes UFA at midnight Sunday night. Blue-chip D prospect to meet with agent(s) in Toronto on Tuesday. Will field offers Wed

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Justin Schultz becomes UFA at midnight Sunday night. Blue-chip D prospect to meet with agent(s) in Toronto on Tuesday. Will field offers Wed

Here's hoping! Sadly we won't find out till July 1 lol

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I still think Simmonds is just a very good 3rd liner/2nd line tweener but a very valuable player. Is that what people want Schenn traded for?
The NHL is quickly becoming the 'What have you done for me recently?' league. Simmonds would be a very good return for Schenn.

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i have a HUGE feeling that Franson will be traded to the Ducks ...

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Any updates, or did Burke just say he might be close to a deal?

Not getting my hopes up right now I don't want to be disappointed

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Schenn alone is not enough for JVR but is too much for Simmonds (imo he is a REALLY good 3rd liner and an okay 2nd liner). I would not want to trade Schenn for a really good 3rd liner (you can find them in FA - minus Army :p)
Simmonds got 28 goals 49 pts this year and he's only 23 yrs old. Not bad for a 3rd liner.

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I don't think anyone is doubting that Schenn still has tons of potential - he's just frustrated in T.O - He didn't like playing Wilson's system. He has issues with Dion. The franchise is a perennial loser. I think the best thing for him and the team is a change. If we could get a decent Top6 coming back it would address a much bigger need then Schenn sulking in the press box.
The system is changing next year. Ron Wilson is gone. He could very well flourish now. This being said, I wouldn't be against swapping for JVR because he also has high-end upside.

And I haven't heard of Schenn having issues with Dion? Can you elaborate?

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I'm hoping this trade isn't minor and actually involves some decent players. Let's see what comes from this
Like maybe a goalie from Finland?

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The NHL is quickly becoming the 'What have you done for me recently?' league. Simmonds would be a very good return for Schenn.
I'd rather go for someone with higher upside than Simmonds. I don't think Simmonds would have the same success here like he did in Philly.

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Schenn alone is not enough for JVR but is too much for Simmonds (imo he is a REALLY good 3rd liner and an okay 2nd liner). I would not want to trade Schenn for a really good 3rd liner (you can find them in FA - minus Army :p)
Philly would never trade Simmonds straight up for Schenn.

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Simmonds got 28 goals 49 pts and he's only 23 yrs old. Not bad for a 3rd liner.
and had 140 hits, 100+ pims, and is a GTA boy

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Come on Burke do something - your job is on the line.

No, it isn't.

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