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06-23-2012, 12:54 PM
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Schenn alone is not enough for JVR but is too much for Simmonds (imo he is a REALLY good 3rd liner and an okay 2nd liner). I would not want to trade Schenn for a really good 3rd liner (you can find them in FA - minus Army :p)
Simmonds has more value the JVR right now. ...

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Would you guys be ok with kulemin getting shipped off?

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i have a HUGE feeling that Franson will be traded to the Ducks ...
From the Ducks I'd like Franson+ for DSP or Holland. Or Franson for Maroon+ or Beleskey+.

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Schenn wasn't bad because of Ron Wilson's evil 'offensive system'. He was bad because he doesn't think the game very quickly in the first place and he put on too much weight, giving him even less time to make decisions.

IMO if Schenn improves his skating, his skillset still ultimately limits him to being a #3-4 defenseman at the NHL level at best, so including him in a trade for a bona fide top-six forward is a no-brainer.

JVR is hardly a bona fide top-six forward, and has had some injury problems early in his career, so it's a bit of a risky trade but I think I'd still do it. His upside is definitely higher than that of Schenn's.

Personally I'd rather include Schenn in a package deal for a better, more proven top-six guy (if possible), but I couldn't complain about JVR.

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Would you guys be ok with kulemin getting shipped off?
I hope we keep Kulemin. I'd trade MacArthur before him.

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Would you guys be ok with kulemin getting shipped off?
It would depend on the return. I hope we keep him. I want him and Frattin on the 3rd line next season.

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They don't have many NHL ready centers up for grabs however. Gagner doesn't fit, so no for him.

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From the Ducks I'd like Franson+ for DSP or Holland. Or Franson for Maroon+ or Beleskey+.
I'd want Holland and I dont think the will part with DSP at all.

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Looks like we can help!
please tell me that they are looking for D because Schultz doesnt want to sign with them ...

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They don't have many NHL ready centers up for grabs however. Gagner doesn't fit, so no for him.
Do they have any pieces we actually want though? Besides the obvious unrealistic options

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Looks like we can help!

They don't have many NHL ready centers up for grabs however. Gagner doesn't fit, so no for him.
Frason for MPS

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and had 140 hits, 100+ pims, and is a GTA boy

Oh i didn't know this. Maybe i should have done more research

I would not mind Schenn for JVR or Simmonds in that case. (I'm talking as if im part of the decision making process LOL)

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i have a HUGE feeling that Franson will be traded to the Ducks Oil...
There you go, fixed !

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Do they have any pieces we actually want though? Besides the obvious unrealistic options
Nobody that I'm dying to have. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Khabby though.

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Franson or Holzer to the Ducks .... i feel it haha

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Justin Schultz becomes UFA at midnight Sunday night. Blue-chip D prospect to meet with agent(s) in Toronto on Tuesday. Will field offers Wed

Here's hoping! Sadly we won't find out till July 1 lol
When Wheeler became a UFA, he announced he was going to Boston a week or 2 before he was allowed to sign the deal. So we may not need to wait. Sounds to me like he hasn't made up his mind, although he may be leaning.

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Nobody that I'm dying to have. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Khabby though.
Yeah maybe.

Is Franson for Khabby + Ryan Jones + a draft pick (2nd or 3rd?) something people would consider? Maybe another one of LACK included on our side as well.

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Franson or Holzer to the Ducks .... i feel it haha
Anaheim scouted Holzer pretty heavily apparently, pre-trade deadline.

I'm not sure what exactly they would part with but Holzer to Anaheim makes sense.

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Yeah maybe.

Is Franson for Khabby + Ryan Jones + a draft pick (2nd or 3rd?) something people would consider? Maybe another one of LACK included on our side as well.
If Khabibulin is included, you better believe a contract is going the other way.

With that said, Burke said he has no interest in him.

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Seemed like something was happening and has died. Anyone know how long it takes for league to approve a move once teams have agreed?

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If Khabibulin is included, you better believe a contract is going the other way.

With that said, Burke said he has no interest in him.
Ah i didnt know that.


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Anaheim scouted Holzer pretty heavily apparently, pre-trade deadline.

I'm not sure what exactly they would part with but Holzer to Anaheim makes sense.
they are missing a spot in their defense right now with the Lubo trade, and Vatanen/Lindholm shouldnt be ready by next season

i think there is a very strong possibility that we get something done with them

Ducks '13 2nd + Maroon (6'4, 225lbs powerforward) for one of Franson/Holzer ?

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Would you guys be ok with kulemin getting shipped off?
I like him and would prefer to keep him but if it is required as part of a package for a #1 goalie or a #1 center then I suppose I could live with it.

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Now people, we need to stop looking for 1:1 trades or getting 2-3 assets for 1 of our players. We need an upgrade at forward, so pick the position you want to upgrade, and the player currently in that position, add Franson or Gunnarson and trade 2-3 players for a serious upgrade. Stop with the sideways moves, we need improvement. We have the depth to upgrade key positions.

Franson-Bozak and a 2nd to upgrade the #1 center.

or

Gunnarson-Kulemin and a prospect to upgrade Kulemins 2nd line wing position.

That is how we will get improvement.

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