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06-23-2012, 04:11 PM
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He brings more to the table than Rupp, who scored only two goals and couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

Prust hits, fights, kills penalties. $1.7 per shouldn't be balked at.
Rupper underperformed his contract last year, no question.

All the more reason to NOT base your offer to Prust off Rupp's contract.

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06-23-2012, 04:12 PM
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He brings more to the table than Rupp, who scored only two goals and couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

Prust hits, fights, kills penalties. $1.7 per shouldn't be balked at.
sure he brings more than rupp, but we don't need two rupps.

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06-23-2012, 04:15 PM
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I respect him, but I'm not a big fan of Prust's game. He plays with heart, but even for a bottom six winger, his offensive skill set is just way below acceptable.

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06-23-2012, 04:20 PM
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Rupper underperformed his contract last year, no question.

All the more reason to NOT base your offer to Prust off Rupp's contract.
Except, even if Rupp didn't have a down year like he did, he doesn't come close to the level of play Prust showed the season prior, and I don't think Rupp will create chances short-handed like Prust did.


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sure he brings more than rupp, but we don't need two rupps.
Way to bring down Prust.

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06-23-2012, 04:23 PM
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We're going to need to find someone who can put in his PK minutes. I know that's not impossible, but Dubi's a little less expendable now. Maybe we'll end up with Ruslan Fedotenko: Part III?

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06-23-2012, 04:36 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything that's been said. $2.2 is nuts, and Sather is right to walk away at that price.

It's a shame because Prust is a great competitor and all, but he CAN be a 3rd liner on some team. Just not this team. So if he can make more money somewhere else, that's his choice.

He's really not needed with Rupp. Sign Zenon Konopka for the 4th line and we're set.

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06-23-2012, 04:39 PM
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sure he brings more than rupp, but we don't need two rupps.
Well see, this is why you don't give out stupid contracts to 4th line scrubs. Smart hockey teams don't make the moves we did with Boogaard and Rupp.

If we didn't have Rupp, I wouldn't mind overpaying a bit for Prust. But moves like the Rupp contract have consequences.

I like Rupp too, but his signing was just unneccesary, especially at that price.

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06-23-2012, 04:49 PM
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The Rangers offer was more than fair. I like Prust, but if he goes it's because he wants to chase pennies not because the Rangers didn't give him a fair deal.

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06-23-2012, 04:57 PM
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We're going to need to find someone who can put in his PK minutes. I know that's not impossible, but Dubi's a little less expendable now. Maybe we'll end up with Ruslan Fedotenko: Part III?
i have no doubt that CK will be able to kill off penalties well by november(january at the latest) if he's given a chance.

hagelin will be better at it. richards will be better at it.
cally/dubi
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boyle

losing fedotenko and prust is a shame, but idt we'll have a problem if kreider does well... not to mention we still have roster spots to fill.

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06-23-2012, 05:06 PM
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Prust is 28. This is his payday. I agree that $2.2 mil per is too much. If he can get it elsewhere he's put in what amounts to his penal servitude--he's going to be a UFA now and he's free to do that. As far as the tweet--he's a blue collar guy really--he shouldn't be tweeting at all. Slats is a blue collar guy too--really. I remember him in a Ranger jersey back in the early 70's. A 4th liner expected to trade punches now and again. Not exactly the same role but similar. But Prust's remarks about management are apt and I don't worry about Slats because he should be able to take that no problem.

The problem is finding another guy who can do the things that Prust does. Somebody mentioned Wellman--come on down Casey and meet your new dancing partner--Cam Janssen. No team comes back the next season exactly the same and I didn't expect this one would either. Just as long as he doesn't sign with the Pens, Flyers or Devils I won't hold it against him.

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06-23-2012, 05:07 PM
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the ONLY problem I have with Prust walking is Sathers tendancy to try to fill vacancies for bottom pairing guys by paying other guys even MORE than he did the guy he let walk. Let Orr walk sign Brashear....let Brashear walk, sign Boogaard, Boogaard passes away sign Rupp.

All of those guys seemed to be progressively grossly overpaid and completely useless hockey players...almost to spite the guy he let walk.

if Prust isn't coming back, give his minutes to a guy like Bourque....he may be mediocre offensively, but the kid works his balls off defensively.

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06-23-2012, 05:14 PM
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the ONLY problem I have with Prust walking is Sathers tendancy to try to fill vacancies for bottom pairing guys by paying other guys even MORE than he did the guy he let walk. Let Orr walk sign Brashear....let Brashear walk, sign Boogaard, Boogaard passes away sign Rupp.

All of those guys seemed to be progressively grossly overpaid and completely useless hockey players...almost to spite the guy he let walk.

if Prust isn't coming back, give his minutes to a guy like Bourque....he may be mediocre offensively, but the kid works his balls off defensively.
I am with you Inferno, Slats has a tendency to overpay for tough-guys and thats fine if he is not going to overpay for Prust, but it worries me as to if he will overpay for someone else? I want Konopka, I wanted him at the deadline, but not at 1.8 million or the nonsense contracts Slats gave to Brash, Boogie, and a worn out Rupp. Sather better be diligent as to whom he brings in to replace and the amount he pays him. At least Konopka can do what Prust can do and win faceoffs, however he is just as prone to the dumb penalty as Prust.

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06-23-2012, 05:45 PM
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He's replaceable. Burish/Konopka should come cheap, Tootoo is a good option but he'd be a little bit more pricey than those other two.

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06-23-2012, 05:50 PM
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Between Prust and Fedotenko, I take Fedotenko over damn near every other bottom-liner in the league. I value Prust. Is it me or did he and Rupp surprisingly not seem too relevant this post season? I'll take Konopka all day!

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06-23-2012, 05:52 PM
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It's been real Pruster. Thanks for the memories, continued sucess wherever you wind up.

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06-23-2012, 06:14 PM
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i had been advocating letting go prust and signing konopka for some time now and my reasons are as follows.

1) Konopka is a MONSTER in the faceoff circle

2) he's a good pk'er and gives it his all just like prust

3) He'll come for at most 1 mill per year imo.

4) Conclusion: He places prust in every facet he has to offer on the ice plus he adds a faceoff go to guy late in games.

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06-23-2012, 06:17 PM
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i had been advocating letting go prust and signing konopka for some time now and my reasons are as follows.

1) Konopka is a MONSTER in the faceoff circle

2) he's a good pk'er and gives it his all just like prust

3) He'll come for at most 1 mill per year imo.

4) Conclusion: He places prust in every facet he has to offer on the ice plus he adds a faceoff go to guy late in games.
Wouldn't Konopka be a replacement for Boyle, not Prust?

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06-23-2012, 06:20 PM
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Wouldn't Konopka be a replacement for Boyle, not Prust?
no play boyle as 3rd line center

Hagelin-Richards-Gabby
Kreider-Stepan-Callahan
Dubi-Boyle-Anisimov
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06-23-2012, 06:21 PM
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Between Prust and Fedotenko, I take Fedotenko over damn near every other bottom-liner in the league. I value Prust. Is it me or did he and Rupp surprisingly not seem too relevant this post season? I'll take Konopka all day!
prust had a torn tendon in his finger in the post season... in fact i thought he said it occurred against the sens before the playoffs

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06-23-2012, 06:23 PM
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no play boyle as 3rd line center

Hagelin-Richards-Gabby
Kreider-Stepan-Callahan
Dubi-Boyle-Anisimov
Rupp-Konopka-Fedentenko
Boyle is a terrible 3rd line center. He needs to be pushed to the 4th line, not reaffirmed on our third line.

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06-23-2012, 06:29 PM
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Boyle is a terrible 3rd line center. He needs to be pushed to the 4th line, not reaffirmed on our third line.
he's a 3rd line center on a majority of teams in the nhl including ours.

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06-23-2012, 06:29 PM
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His agent should be fired.

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This is a game to get his agent to lower the price. He's not getting that on the open market.

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06-23-2012, 06:34 PM
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no play boyle as 3rd line center

Hagelin-Richards-Gabby
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Boyle is a terrible 3rd line center. He needs to be pushed to the 4th line, not reaffirmed on our third line.
With that said, if prust is gone my ideal line up is this..

Hags-Richards-Gabby
Kredier-Stepan-Callahan
Ott-Dubi-Anisimov
Rupp Boyle Feds

If the price is too damn high on nash and doesn't come down i think we can get ott for a mid-level prospect/2nd round pick. He brings gritt and more skill to our bottom six to replace prust

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Prust was warrior for this team, city and fan base every time he stepped on the ice. One tweet and everyone is ready to throw him to the curb. Prust would have fought a polar bear if he took a run at one of his teammates.

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