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06-23-2012, 03:27 PM
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Seth Griffith

What is the knock on him? Why would someone who scores 45 goals w/40 assists for the London Knights fall so far?

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What is the knock on him? Why would someone who scores 45 goals w/40 assists for the London Knights fall so far?
He is a center and as big as Hamill or he doesn't listen to the Hunters.

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06-23-2012, 05:33 PM
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What is the knock on him? Why would someone who scores 45 goals w/40 assists for the London Knights fall so far?
He wears the egg of the king. If you put your faith in him, when his dream dies it will mean your death.

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06-23-2012, 05:34 PM
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What is the knock on him? Why would someone who scores 45 goals w/40 assists for the London Knights fall so far?
This is his second time eligible for the draft, no clue why he didn't get picked the first time. Brock had an excellent write up on him:

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I had Griffith as the 2nd best overager from the O behind Tanner Pearson. Payne didn't make my top 50 from the OHL (was one of my HM's). Here's what I wrote about them.

Payne is an intriguing power forward prospect. He was supposed to be one of the Generals youth backbones for the future, but wasn't happy there and ultimately wound up in Plymouth. He didn't have a great year though and certainly didn't progress the way many anticipated he would. But he's still a 6'2, 200lb winger who is willing to throw his weight around or drop the gloves. He has some puck skill and can take the puck to the net, but as of now, he's having trouble putting the puck in the net. I think some of that can be attributed to a possible lack of offensive hockey sense. He'll drive to the net or hang out around the crease, but just isn't finding scoring opportunities. At times this year he saw action with higher end skilled players and looked a step behind the play in all facets. If you draft him, you have to hope that his hands find him.

I was dumbstruck when Griffith wasn't selected last year. He was firmly in the majority of the top 100 lists that I saw, so his failure to get drafted was quite surprising. But it's good to see he came back quite strong this year. I have to be honest, I think what Griffith has done this season as a "re-entry" is more impressive than what Tanner Pearson has done. Now I admit, Pearson is the better pro prospect, but it still doesn't explain what Griffith is getting practically zero love for this draft the way Pearson (or even Tanner Richard) is. In essentially his second year in the league, he's taken the reigns of a team with several high end draft picks (including two first round forwards) and lead them to first overall in the OHL regular season. He's also been said team's best forward in the OHL playoffs. Sure, Griffith isn't the biggest (pushing 5'11), but he's such a smart and skilled player that his size doesn't affect him. And he's actually very good at protecting the puck and using the size he does have. His skating isn't an issue, as I'd consider it at least above average for the OHL. He's got tremendous hands and his wrist shot has improved immensely this season. He plays hard and contributes in all situations for the Knights. Seth Griffith has turned himself into a fantastic hockey player and I hope he hears his name called this time around.

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06-23-2012, 05:51 PM
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Liked him in the memer cup games.

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He wears the egg of the king. If you put your faith in him, when his dream dies it will mean your death.
Berserk reference!

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He wears the egg of the king. If you put your faith in him, when his dream dies it will mean your death.
If that's the case maybe they should have just let him go undrafted and or atleast waited until the 7th round.

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I have seen him play many, many times over his career in London as I have season tickets. The only knock on him that I can see (and it has been confirmed by a friend who scouts for the Panthers) is his skating. He isn't big enough to play at his speed in the show. Wonderful Jr. A player. If the speed picks up, it will offset his size. I'm a fan, but that's how I see it.

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06-23-2012, 07:19 PM
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I LOVE the Seth Griffith pick. Well done Bruins, solid draft

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06-23-2012, 07:31 PM
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Berserk reference!
Holy ****! Good call!! Griffith!!!

I haven't seen a great deal of this kid. Memorial Cup play, mainly... And bits and pieces.

But I ****ing like him. I thought for SURE someone had already drafted him. His physical tools may not impress much, but the guy ALWAYS had the puck on his stick. Always making plays. Always in control and proficient in all three zones. He's smart. He can pass OR shoot effectively. He can play all three forward positions.

I don't know if there's something I'm not taking into consideration. I'm sure there are many, many things about him that I'm ignorant about - and a few of them have made Griffith less desirable than I think he should be. But from the limited amount I've seen, the guy looks like he could be a second-line NHL forward someday. And a GOOD one.

In the fifth round... He looks like an absolute steal to me.

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Seth Griffith is like Zach Hamill: a guy you take a chance on in the 5th round, not 8th overall

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Love this pick. A great boom/bust opportunity in the 5th round...I hope he turns it on.

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He wears the egg of the king. If you put your faith in him, when his dream dies it will mean your death.
Damn, that's such an obscure reference, I was confused until MMB's post.

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06-24-2012, 06:51 AM
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Well, wasn't Kessel projected (skills wise) to go 1st overall but dropped because he had baggage etc.? Not saying this kid does but sometimes those issues come in to play unfortunately as well.

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I have seen him play many, many times over his career in London as I have season tickets. The only knock on him that I can see (and it has been confirmed by a friend who scouts for the Panthers) is his skating. He isn't big enough to play at his speed in the show. Wonderful Jr. A player. If the speed picks up, it will offset his size. I'm a fan, but that's how I see it.
Somebody sign this kid up for power-skating.

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How wrong can this go in the fifth round ,great pick ,he needs to get up to speed which won't be easy but whats the risk.How many fifth rounders make it to the dance,Yes many have made it but many more first and second rounders have so over all this is a good pick considering it's fifth round ,almost unbelievable nobody else took the plunge before the B's ,hope he proves em all wrong .

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06-25-2012, 12:19 AM
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Great pick, great player to fill the overage quota this year.

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How wrong can this go in the fifth round ,great pick ,he needs to get up to speed which won't be easy but whats the risk.How many fifth rounders make it to the dance,Yes many have made it but many more first and second rounders have so over all this is a good pick considering it's fifth round ,almost unbelievable nobody else took the plunge before the B's ,hope he proves em all wrong .
Exactly, if he makes it and ends up being a serviceable NHL`er, icing on the cake, if not, oh well

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Well, wasn't Kessel projected (skills wise) to go 1st overall but dropped because he had baggage etc.? Not saying this kid does but sometimes those issues come in to play unfortunately as well.
Not a good comparable. Griffith's case is more like a guy who has big production at a lower level, but whose physical measurables (height, weight, strength, speed) are not projected to be good enoguh to play at a higher level.

Sometimes those guys show they can just play at any level due to drive, brains, heart.... and sometimes they show that they just aren't big or fast enough to play.

Look, the odds are against any 5th round pick making it, but this guy was definitely worth a chance.

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Not a good comparable. Griffith's case is more like a guy who has big production at a lower level, but whose physical measurables (height, weight, strength, speed) are not projected to be good enoguh to play at a higher level.

Sometimes those guys show they can just play at any level due to drive, brains, heart.... and sometimes they show that they just aren't big or fast enough to play.

Look, the odds are against any 5th round pick making it, but this guy was definitely worth a chance.
Is he small like Marchand? Or small small like Nathan Gerbe?

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Is he small like Marchand? Or small small like Nathan Gerbe?
Seems like a recent organizational trend taking smaller guys who produce though may not translate to the NHL game. Griffith, Spooner and Camper seem to be of this mold.

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Not a good comparable. Griffith's case is more like a guy who has big production at a lower level, but whose physical measurables (height, weight, strength, speed) are not projected to be good enoguh to play at a higher level.

Sometimes those guys show they can just play at any level due to drive, brains, heart.... and sometimes they show that they just aren't big or fast enough to play.

Look, the odds are against any 5th round pick making it, but this guy was definitely worth a chance.
Height and weight measurements aren't everything, but he is listed at 5'11, 185, which isn't that small for a 19 year old prospect. To me, that's about average...it's Claude Giroux/Zach Parise dimensions ( not comparing their skill, strength, and skating ability ).

If he can work on power skating and improving his strength, we might just have something here 2-3 years down the road.

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My opinion is that the Bs definitely have a good chance to find a "hidden gem" with SG. At some points this year when I believe both were healthy (and I may be wrong) I felt he was having more of an impact at the Jr. A level than Jared Knight. Does that mean he will make the NHL and Jared Knight won't? Of course not. Just an observation from a fan. He is not anywhere near the speed of JK, but has many of the same intangibles that JK demonstrated in his time as a Knight. I hope he pans out!


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Seems like a recent organizational trend taking smaller guys who produce though may not translate to the NHL game. Griffith, Spooner and Camper seem to be of this mold.
I don;t see how Spooner is lumped in with that group. Spooner is just about 6', and an explosive skater

Seth was a good pick where he was taken. I wasn't a fan of the draft as a whole but this pick seemed like great value for when he was taken.

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I hope he turns out to be a nice bottom 6 player in 3-4 years. Trying to think of an NHL player that he reminds me of. Anyone?

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