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Bobby Ryan is "available" Part II

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06-23-2012, 08:56 PM
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If the Ducks could pick and choose off each line below:
Orpik or Martin
Kennedy or Jeffrey
Bennett or Tangradi + 2nd in 2013
One of Despres, Domoulin, Harrington, Maata, or Morrow

Would there be some combination in there that would work for them?

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If the Ducks could pick and choose off each line below:
Orpik or Martin
Kennedy or Jeffrey
Bennett or Tangradi + 2nd in 2013
One of Despres, Domoulin, Harrington, Maata, or Morrow

Would there be something in there that would work for them?
I see what you did there.

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06-23-2012, 08:58 PM
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06-23-2012, 09:01 PM
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I see what you did there.

I included a different top 4 D option for a reason.

In all seriousness, I know he's the Larry Murphy to HF's Leaf Nation right now, but I thought there might be some interest. IIRC Murray was after him pretty hard as a UFA.

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06-23-2012, 09:03 PM
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I included a different top 4 D option for a reason.

In all seriousness, I know he's the Larry Murphy to HF's Leaf Nation right now, but I thought there might be some interest. IIRC Murray was after him pretty hard as a UFA.
And when the salary and term came up he ran away screaming. Horrible contract for a budget team.

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And when the salary and term came up he ran away screaming. Horrible contract for a budget team.
I'm not going to try and defend Martin as some bargain, but I don't think $14 million over 3 years is that outrageous for a decent top 4 guy. Your mileage may vary. Toss him out of consideration for the sake of this conversation.

Are the remaining assets workable?

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06-23-2012, 09:17 PM
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If the Ducks could pick and choose off each line below:
Orpik or Martin
Kennedy or Jeffrey
Bennett or Tangradi + 2nd in 2013
One of Despres, Domoulin, Harrington, Maata, or Morrow

Would there be some combination in there that would work for them?
Terrible.

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06-23-2012, 09:23 PM
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Terrible.
Today I learned that a top 4 defenceman, an NHL roster forward, and 2 first round prospects is terrible.

That's almost as much as Chris Pronger in his prime got traded for. Is it really that far away?

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06-23-2012, 09:24 PM
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This thread is going to drive me to drink.
Just don't do both.

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If the Ducks could pick and choose off each line below:
Orpik or Martin
Kennedy or Jeffrey
Bennett or Tangradi + 2nd in 2013
One of Despres, Domoulin, Harrington, Maata, or Morrow

Would there be some combination in there that would work for them?

Honestly wouldnt mind taking a flyer on Martin with our cap space/players in free agency. But this package for Bobby Ryan is awful. Not any combination I would even think about.

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What about these outside the box trades: (either one for Ryan)


- Landeskog
- O'Reilly



- Setoguchi
- Clutterbuck
- 1st rounder 2013
Avs wouldn't do the first. They wouldn't even consider it.

I find it hilarious that you think Landeskog/O'Reilly and Seto/Clutterbuck/1st are comparable packages.

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Krejci for Ryan straight up? eh? eh?

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Today I learned that a top 4 defenceman, an NHL roster forward, and 2 first round prospects is terrible.

That's almost as much as Chris Pronger in his prime got traded for. Is it really that far away?
Chris Pronger aged 35 with 1 year left versus Bobby Ryan at 25 with 3 years left. Not a good comparison IMO.

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Terrible.
Indeed. I would be pissed if the Penguins gave that much up for Ryan.

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Chris Pronger aged 35 with 1 year left versus Bobby Ryan at 25 with 3 years left. Not a good comparison IMO.
I might be remembering wrong, but wasn't Pronger like 30 when Anaheim got him for Lupul, Smid (still a prospect at the time obviously), a 1st, a 2nd, and a conditional 1st?

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06-23-2012, 09:35 PM
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What about these outside the box trades: (either one for Ryan)


- Landeskog
- O'Reilly



- Setoguchi
- Clutterbuck
- 1st rounder 2013
That's just awful for the Avs.

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06-23-2012, 09:45 PM
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Today I learned that a top 4 defenceman, an NHL roster forward, and 2 first round prospects is terrible.

That's almost as much as Chris Pronger in his prime got traded for. Is it really that far away?
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Indeed. I would be pissed if the Penguins gave that much up for Ryan.
You guys need to understand that there is a difference in VALUE and what we want/need. Our GM has come out and said pleanty of times that Ryan will not be moved for futures. Half that offer is futures, and the other half is your extras that you and the Ducks dont need.

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I'm not going to try and defend Martin as some bargain, but I don't think $14 million over 3 years is that outrageous for a decent top 4 guy. Your mileage may vary. Toss him out of consideration for the sake of this conversation.

Are the remaining assets workable?
He has the 20th highest cap hit in the league for defensemen. I'd prefer to save that for my top, or at least top pairing guy. I don't think he's crap like a lot of people do, I just think he's grossly overpaid, at least for a budget team.

Orpik is a good piece and would provide the meanness our defense lacks, but I think there's too much futures and grinders in the rest. There's no way this isn't Selanne's last year (assuming the rumors are correct), and if we lose Ryan we need a legitimate top 6 player. Do you honestly think Kennedy can be a legitimate 2C? (not being an ass, just don't watch him that closely). I'll be honest I don't know your prospects well enough to intelligently discuss them.

That was helpful of me, wasn't it

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06-23-2012, 09:52 PM
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That is like Us offering this for Neal:

Lydman+DSP+Palmieri+2013 2nd+Vatanen

Would you take that?

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