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With the #7 pick, the Wild select Mathew Dumba

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06-23-2012, 11:18 PM
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I know it's not technically retired, but I really don't think anyone's gonna wear that number for a while.
Agreed.

It'd probably make me sad if it happened..

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06-23-2012, 11:21 PM
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It's part of why I'd like to see it retired...because it really wouldn't feel right for anyone else to wear it.

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06-23-2012, 11:32 PM
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There was only one I could think of and that was Teuvo Tervainen, who dropped to 18th...
Wasn't he seen as more of a playmaker? Not that he couldn't score goals, but I don't remember anyone saying he was what could be called a sniper or goal scorer. To me he seems more similar to Granlund, in that he was a very talented offensive player who could score, but wasn't really a big time goal scorer.

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Wasn't he seen as more of a playmaker? Not that he couldn't score goals, but I don't remember anyone saying he was what could be called a sniper or goal scorer. To me he seems more similar to Granlund, in that he was a very talented offensive player who could score, but wasn't really a big time goal scorer.
From what I gather, he had all all-round package but was leaning more towards a goalscorer.

Doesn't matter, Dumba is still the better offensive producer, even if it is from the blueline.

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It's part of why I'd like to see it retired...because it really wouldn't feel right for anyone else to wear it.
I agree. I'm not big on player numbers but I'd rather not see anyone wear #24 for a long time.

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Boogaard died a Ranger, where his number was #94. I wouldn't have a problem with it if the kid wants it, once someone explained the history to him. Especially given the physicality in his game, I'd see it as a tribute.

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Boogaard died a Ranger, where his number was #94. I wouldn't have a problem with it if the kid wants it. Especially given the physicality in his game, I'd see it as a tribute.
He played 20 games there. New Yorkers agree, his legacy is here.

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06-23-2012, 11:52 PM
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Out of curiousity, which goal scoring forward?
Grigs or Teuvo. But what I really wanted to happen at that point was we trade down somehow, but considering how the top 10 went I can see why that simply was not possible. No one needed to be in a hurry to jump on the forward they wanted cause everyone was dropping, and I just dont see anyone trading up to pick a blueliner.

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Grigs or Teuvo. But what I really wanted to happen at that point was we trade down somehow, but considering how the top 10 went I can see why that simply was not possible. No one needed to be in a hurry to jump on the forward they wanted cause everyone was dropping, and I just dont see anyone trading up to pick a blueliner.
You really shouldn't be disappointed. Dumba wasn't my first choice but the more I read about him, the more I like him.

We just picked up the prospect with arguably the highest upside, including Nail Yakupov, Mikhail Grigorenko, and Alex Galchenyuk, in turns on impact power.

He is arguably the best skater, best shooter, and best hitter.

If you wanted someone safe, then I understand your disappointment, but if you wanted offensive upside, we just got THE top guy for that patrols the blueline.

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06-24-2012, 12:06 AM
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You really shouldn't be disappointed. Dumba wasn't my first choice but the more I read about him, the more I like him.

We just picked up the prospect with arguably the highest upside, including Nail Yakupov, Mikhail Grigorenko, and Alex Galchenyuk, in turns on impact power.

He is arguably the best skater, best shooter, and best hitter.

If you wanted someone safe, then I understand your disappointment, but if you wanted offensive upside, we just got THE top guy for that patrols the blueline.
Like I've tried to explain, I'm not disappointed with the pick itself, just how we used the pick.

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06-24-2012, 12:34 AM
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Like I've tried to explain, I'm not disappointed with the pick itself, just how we used the pick.
It takes two to tango, or something like that.

If Dumba was so high on their draft board (let's say ranked #4-#5 depending), then you have to take him at #7. Take your guy and move on.

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06-24-2012, 12:36 AM
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Like I've tried to explain, I'm not disappointed with the pick itself, just how we used the pick.
You are too overly emotional about very small things.

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06-24-2012, 01:02 AM
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There was only one I could think of and that was Teuvo Tervainen, who dropped to 18th...
And it's not exactly clear that TT is a goal scoring forward. Despite some of his numbers, all reports on him seem to indicate he's a pass first type guy.

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It's part of why I'd like to see it retired...because it really wouldn't feel right for anyone else to wear it.
Well then you better retire 33 and 38 too.

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06-24-2012, 01:21 AM
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You are too overly emotional about very small things.
Same could be said for you on a few things.

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06-24-2012, 01:27 AM
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After watching his post draft interview in the HF article, a couple notes:

He really really emphasizes that the coaches and GMs will decide what they decide, but he wants to be here now. If that's not to be, he'll work even harder to get there.

Every team discussion he leads team first. When talking about getting a lot of ice time in Red Deer "Yeah, we all got plenty of time with injuries and such." He seems very down to earth and appreciative of everything.

Last, and most importantly, he says Minnesota like a Minnesotan. It's "Minna-sooo-dah."

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06-24-2012, 01:29 AM
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Last, and most importantly, he says Minnesota like a Minnesotan. It's "Minna-sooo-dah."
Yeah, not a "Minny" anywhere to be heard!!

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06-24-2012, 01:39 AM
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It's part of why I'd like to see it retired...because it really wouldn't feel right for anyone else to wear it.
I can remember a lot of people wanting Zholi's number retired when he passed away. It was tragic, and the thought of seeing another Wild player wearing that number felt so wrong on so many levels. But as the years went by, it wasn't a touchy subject anymore. Seeing #33 out there again wouldn't be depressing now. Sure, it'll spark some memories, but you have to move forward. It's just like when some wanted Walz's number retired after he left. Yes, that was a very different circumstance that didn't include tragedy. And although I didn't want it retired, I couldn't have imagined seeing that number out there again either. It wouldn't be right. But as time went on, it wasn't an issue. Was happy that Harding actually took it. The death of Boogs and Demo is still pretty recent. Those wounds haven't healed yet, so it's natural to cringe at the thought of anyone sporting it. But give it more time.

I'm sure Dumba knows about Boogie, and would probably ask for the team's blessing first. Retiring a number is a very rare thing that is reserved for very special accomplishments that are made over many years with a club. And while Boogie was a great guy who gave us great memories to cherish, I don't think it'd be appropriate to hang up that number. Just put it on a shelf for a while, which is what they're doing.

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06-24-2012, 01:46 AM
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I agree with Avder. I wish we could have done more with the pick. I like Dumba, just wish there was more.

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Like I've tried to explain, I'm not disappointed with the pick itself, just how we used the pick.
You want to be the Oilers instead with all those forwards an no prayerof stopping a puck or getting it out of your zone to say the least?

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You want to be the Oilers instead with all those forwards an no prayerof stopping a puck or getting it out of your zone to say the least?
At least we are full of goalies. They have some pretty good D prospects on the way, just not close to NHL ready.

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Like I've tried to explain, I'm not disappointed with the pick itself, just how we used the pick.
The organization clearly felt that there was a drop off of talent (and I don't blame them) and that the guy they had probably on the top of their draft boards wasn't going to be there if they moved down.

Minnesota wanted to get a dynamic player and they did.

Grigs and TT have too many questions compared to Dumba.

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At least we are full of goalies. They have some pretty good D prospects on the way, just not close to NHL ready.
Great. So they'll pick up another #1 overall pick again.

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I agree with Avder. I wish we could have done more with the pick. I like Dumba, just wish there was more.
I know I said something similar prior to the pick (100% because I was convinced they would not pick Dumba, otherwise I would have been all for them grabbing him) but in retrospect, what could they have done? The phone wasn't ringing, and no one wanted to move up. Maybe they could have moved back to Buffalo's pick at 12 (playing on fear of Washington grabbing Grigs) but judging from the lack of movement around that point, they wouldn't have offered much. We could have maybe gotten their second to move down to 12th. That's way too far to move down for just a 2nd with Dumba on the board. I have no doubt that Pittsburgh would have taken him at 8 if he was still there.

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Great. So they'll pick up another #1 overall pick again.
Why is that bad? Some teams just seemingly are forever stuck sucking, like the Isles.

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