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04-15-2012, 09:26 AM
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Since I said I'd do it in another thread, I've calculated exactly how much the Sabres spent on salary this year: $80,632,802 with an additional $2,045,000 possible if players reached all remaining performance bonuses.

This number includes all NHL salary (which includes signing bonuses), performance bonuses, and AHL salary.
Salaries of players that spent time in both the AHL and NHL are proportionate to the amount of time spent on each roster.

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04-16-2012, 02:55 PM
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I remember you mentioning during the year that you were concerned the LTIR space the team was using this year would need to be paid back off of next year's cap space. Will that still be the case or were they able to pay down the difference?

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jfb,

I remember you mentioning during the year that you were concerned the LTIR space the team was using this year would need to be paid back off of next year's cap space. Will that still be the case or were they able to pay down the difference?
If I'm reading this properly, according to capgeek we are coming in $9,574 under the cap for the season. So we're good.

http://capgeek.com/tracker/team.php?...ate=2012-04-07

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04-16-2012, 05:04 PM
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I remember you mentioning during the year that you were concerned the LTIR space the team was using this year would need to be paid back off of next year's cap space. Will that still be the case or were they able to pay down the difference?
Well, if it was a normal year we could be at risk for being penalized because of performance bonuses.
It is clearly stated that there will be no cap penalties this year though, so I'm not sure what happens.
Maybe the league will just ignore it or maybe we'll be charged with circumvention.

I was concerned about how much it'd eat into our summer cap, but it's not a very big deal since we won't have buried contracts eating a bunch of it up.
We ended up using around $1.8m on recalls, which is a decent chunk of it, but nothing to worry about.

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04-16-2012, 09:13 PM
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With the Penguins painfully obvious "lefty" problem, they are going to move a center for a righty shot sniper. The Sabres have 3 guys who would correct their power play.

Staal or Malkin.

I'm thinking the Penguins will try to move Staal and make due with a less talented 3rd line center. Staal for Stafford is a very real possibility.

Would you do it? I'm on the fence...

Now I would dream about this move: Vanek, Foligno, and both first round draft picks for Malkin.

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04-17-2012, 02:21 AM
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^^^ Yes, Staal for Stafford and I wouldn't think twice about it either. Pens would never do it though...would have to add

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04-17-2012, 06:27 AM
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With the Penguins painfully obvious "lefty" problem, they are going to move a center for a righty shot sniper. The Sabres have 3 guys who would correct their power play.

Staal or Malkin.

I'm thinking the Penguins will try to move Staal and make due with a less talented 3rd line center. Staal for Stafford is a very real possibility.

Would you do it? I'm on the fence...

Now I would dream about this move: Vanek, Foligno, and both first round draft picks for Malkin.
Get real. Neither of those trades have greater than a 0% chance of happening. Absolutely never happen.

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04-17-2012, 06:58 AM
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With the Penguins painfully obvious "lefty" problem, they are going to move a center for a righty shot sniper. The Sabres have 3 guys who would correct their power play.

Staal or Malkin.

I'm thinking the Penguins will try to move Staal and make due with a less talented 3rd line center. Staal for Stafford is a very real possibility.

Would you do it? I'm on the fence...

Now I would dream about this move: Vanek, Foligno, and both first round draft picks for Malkin.
...Staal is worth way more then Stafford

Vanek and Mcnabb for Staal and Orpik that would be closer

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04-17-2012, 09:18 AM
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thx jfb, great job, grat thread

i don't see any chance of getting malkin.
but staal/staf. sounds reasonable. of course sabres would have to add. probably nsh1 or d-prospect.

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05-01-2012, 11:57 AM
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Updated a bunch of prospect contracts after CapGeek's update today:
Catenacci ($605,000 to $800,000)
Flynn ($1,137,500 to $1,025,000)
Gauthier-Leduc ($665,000 to $900,000)
Knapp ($595,000 to $700,000)
M. MacKenzie ($600,000 to $750,000)
Sundher ($631,667 to $900,000)

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05-10-2012, 01:07 PM
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I guess I'll post it here too; Ryan signed a 1yr deal with Ässät, so you can strikethrough his name in Group III (UFA).

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Oilers fan here I was just thinking and I came up with this:
To Edmonton: Myers, 12th overall
To Buffalo: 1st overall, Davidson/another prospect
What would need to be added or taken away to make it work for you guys?

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05-18-2012, 07:53 PM
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Oilers fan here I was just thinking and I came up with this:
To Edmonton: Myers, 12th overall
To Buffalo: 1st overall, Davidson/another prospect
What would need to be added or taken away to make it work for you guys?
You'd have to take out Myers. If the cost of moving up 11 spots in Myers, then I'll happily pass.

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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz1w3zuh7vH

The "summer salary cap" could be as high as $76M if revenues hit the $4B mark.

If the 57% Players/43% Owners split changes in the next CBA, it will be interesting to see how that change affects contracts that are already signed if a few teams sign guys to get close to the "summer cap".

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05-29-2012, 04:45 PM
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Cap has gone up avg. of 8.7% per year CAGR ($39 to $64.3M) post-lockout, including the % growth in the player's share.

Wish I could get that return...

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05-31-2012, 12:54 PM
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The "summer salary cap" could be as high as $76M if revenues hit the $4B mark.

If the 57% Players/43% Owners split changes in the next CBA, it will be interesting to see how that change affects contracts that are already signed if a few teams sign guys to get close to the "summer cap".
If revenues were $4b, the limit would be a whopping $84,650,000 while the summer limit would be $93,115,000.
It'd also be 34% growth from 2010-11, which is pretty much impossible.

If it's 3.3b flat (Bettman only said 3.3 last night):
$59,700,000 (mid point)
$62,685,000 (mid point with 5% escalator)
$51,700,000 (floor)
$54,685,000 (floor with escalator)
$67,700,000 (ceiling)
$70,685,000 (ceiling with escalator)

Summer cap: $74,470,000 (without escalator)
$77,753,500 (with escalator)

The $3.3b number may change as HRR numbers are not close to even being preliminary yet.

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Keeping in mind there's a new CBA coming (hopefully), upper limit of salary cap for next season (technically speaking) is $70.3M.
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In other words, IF the CBA weren't expiring, next season's salary cap based on Hockey Related Revenue would be $70.3M. But CBA is expiring.
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Friedman chimes in that the cap could near $74 million:
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2. With the upper limit of the salary cap at $70.3 million US (as reported by Bob McKenzie and pending a new CBA), there is something else to consider. The NHLPA has the right to "inflate" that total by five per cent and, to this point, has always done so. That means the cap number for the summer could actually be $73.815 million.

Link: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin.../lidstrom.html

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06-01-2012, 12:04 PM
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Friedman chimes in that the cap could near $74 million:
I could see the NHLPA doing just that under the current CBA to help "entice" teams this summer to spend more on free agents, which would help in offsetting the potential salary rollbacks that players may face under a new CBA.

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Friedman chimes in that the cap could near $74 million:
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Initially, I was told this was not included in the calculation, but now I'm told that is incorrect. Also, @FehrTheeWell pointed out a mathematical mistake on Twitter. The inflator is applied to the midpoint figure, not the cap number. I should have remembered that. Apologies, the errors were mine.
There's no way that they could reach $70.3m with $3.3b in revenue and no escalator, so he should have done his homework first.
Of course, he later corrected it, as seen above.

Right now, the number is $70,335,000 with the escalator and $67,366,667 without.

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I could see the NHLPA doing just that under the current CBA to help "entice" teams this summer to spend more on free agents, which would help in offsetting the potential salary rollbacks that players may face under a new CBA.
The purpose of the escalator is to create more potential money to offset the money put into escrow.
It is not meant to offset rollbacks.


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06-02-2012, 10:08 AM
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Hasn't Darcy talked about beefing up the bottom 6?

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The deadline for qualifying offers is Monday and the Sabres apparently have yet to send them out.
Why?
Who knows.

I'll finally be updating this thread on Monday also.

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How is Sulzer not on the roster but in the UFA section?

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How is Sulzer not on the roster but in the UFA section?
As I said, I will be updating it on Monday.
It was last updated on May 5th.

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I'm not sure where else to put this, but I have a theory I'd like to share:

I honestly think that drafting the big centers increases the chance that we go after Parise in FA. Pegula stated when he arrived that he wanted to win a cup in three years, but it's unrealistic to think that a center group of Grigorenko, Girgensons, Hodgson and Ennis will be mature enough to lead a team to a cup, so a strong corp of wingers would be key if we were to contend in 2013-14.

If we trade Roy to make room for Parise, a winger group of Parise, Pominville, Vanek, Stafford, etc. would be enough to carry the young guys, and the cap room would be there with the G's, Foligno, Pysyk and McNabb on ELCs.

Assuming Grigs and Girgs are NHL ready in 2013 and Pegula sticks to his guns about wanting to contend for a cup then, the stars are aligning for us when you consider the number of potential impact players on entry-level deals we'll have. A star winger added to the group (Parise, Iginla, Ryan) would be a smart pickup if we use the potential cap space the right way, and you have to believe Darcy is going to make another move based on his ability to get who he's wanted since T-pegs took over.

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