Personally i have interest in Bobby Ryan coming to San jose, and frankly i hope DW does as well. obviously we pay more then other teams as we are division rivals, but i think we could make a solid hockey trade.
my proposal for Ryan is Ryan for Pavelski +++
The other guy that pops into my head is Doug Murray.
My overall proposal is
Ryan
2nd 2013
for
Pavelski
Murray
Alex Stalock
Please in counter proposals base your return package around Pavelski as Couture and Burns wont be moved for Ryan. Please keep them reasonable.
The valule isn't horrible and I would love to get a guy like Pavelski but I don't want to play against Ryan 6 times a year so obviously I would hope to send him away from the division.
Already better than a lot of what we see from Philly and New York, but can't see him traded to SJS. And then there's the contract thing like Gliff mentioned.
This probably won't ever happen but... how has Murray been since he took the puck to the throat? I've always had a love/hate feeling toward Murray... hated playing against him but would love to have him on the team.
Hi Ducks fans.
Would you accept Kulikov + Santorelli + Robak + 6th for Ryan ?
or Garrisons rights + Ellerby + Uppshall + Santorelli
I'd want Kulikov (or Gudbranson) and Fleischman for Ryan + something small to maybe even it out, but I doubt Panthers fans would be willing to give that for us.
If Ryan still wants to play for the Ducks, I'd be more than fine keeping him. If he really is this offended by a few rumours popping up every once in a while, and feels like he isn't wanted here anymore, then trade him. I just think it's stupid to keep a player who doesn't want to play here anymore. I certainly don't know if that's the case here, but if it is then that's my opinion.
Although I honestly think Ryan was just frustrated when he made those comments earlier about him not caring anymore. I don't think he will be traded but you never know.
If Ryan still wants to play for the Ducks, I'd be more than fine keeping him. If he really is this offended by a few rumours popping up every once in a while, and feels like he isn't wanted here anymore, then trade him. I just think it's stupid to keep a player who doesn't want to play here anymore. I certainly don't know if that's the case here, but if it is then that's my opinion.
Although I honestly think Ryan was just frustrated when he made those comments earlier about him not caring anymore. I don't think he will be traded but you never know.
I took it as more frustration with the situation and not being able to do anything about it. He may want to play in Philly one day but i didn't see him asking to be traded there.
I'd want Kulikov (or Gudbranson) and Fleischman for Ryan + something small to maybe even it out, but I doubt Panthers fans would be willing to give that for us.
We're not giving up both Fleischman and Kulikov but Kulikov + Ellerby + Santorelli could work.
I took it as more frustration with the situation and not being able to do anything about it. He may want to play in Philly one day but i didn't see him asking to be traded there.
I was just speculating that if he does want out, then I would certainly think Murray has to do something about it (=trade him). Judging by the comments he gave, I agree it sounds like he's just tired of the continuous rumor mill.
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Originally Posted by Hockeycast
We're not giving up both Fleischman and Kulikov but Kulikov + Ellerby + Santorelli could work.
That's what I thought, and I've got to say I don't find Ellerby or Santorelli attractive pieces for a deal for Bobby Ryan.
I think Ryan has to go or the GM has to go, its too late for Ducks Gm to look Bobby in the eye and convince him that not only do the Ducks want him, but his name will no longer be used in trade proposals and that he is the future of the Ducks.
I think Ryan has to go or the GM has to go, its too late for Ducks Gm to look Bobby in the eye and convince him that not only do the Ducks want him, but his name will no longer be used in trade proposals and that he is the future of the Ducks.
I don't see why that would be the case, at all. Ryan doesn't need to hear that his name is not going to come up on trade rumors any more. That's an unrealistic expectation. There were rumors around him before he played his first NHL season (when people expected us to have to include him in a package to get rid of Mathieu Schneider's contract) and when he hit RFA. Dealing with rumors is a part of his job as an NHL player. He has the power to control that himself, by playing to a level where he earns himself the status of an untouchable with a team or a no-trade clause in a contract. That's up to him, other than that, it's not the Ducks' job to get his name out of the rumor mill. When a team has many star players and the team doesn't live up to expectations, those names are going to be brought up.
It has its advantages that Ryan is such an active and "touchable" person through modern media. But if he can't deal with rumors he's necessarily going to be confronted with on twitter (or whereever), he needs to take a step back from that and focus on playing hockey, and care less about somebody else's job, like the GM's or the journalist's.
I don't see why that would be the case, at all. Ryan doesn't need to hear that his name is not going to come up on trade rumors any more. That's an unrealistic expectation. There were rumors around him before he played his first NHL season (when people expected us to have to include him in a package to get rid of Mathieu Schneider's contract) and when he hit RFA. Dealing with rumors is a part of his job as an NHL player. He has the power to control that himself, by playing to a level where he earns himself the status of an untouchable with a team or a no-trade clause in a contract. That's up to him, other than that, it's not the Ducks' job to get his name out of the rumor mill. When a team has many star players and the team doesn't live up to expectations, those names are going to be brought up.
It has its advantages that Ryan is such an active and "touchable" person through modern media. But if he can't deal with rumors he's necessarily going to be confronted with on twitter (or whereever), he needs to take a step back from that and focus on playing hockey, and care less about somebody else's job, like the GM's or the journalist's.
And if he's looking to escape all that, going to Philly isn't where it's going to happen. Not only has Holmgren shipped off players that were thought to have security, but it's a major hockey market where you won't have to go on Twitter to have the tell you what they think of you.
