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06-24-2012, 09:55 AM
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He didn't really drop THAT far. A lot of people had him in the 20s and he went early 30s. Perhaps we just got a little lucky.
I've seen him on lists at least as high as 12-17 as well, though. Makes 33 look like a bigger drop.

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One list I saw yesterday had him at #9.

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It's true that lately he was expected to go anywhere from 20-25, but I remember at least one point during the course of the year he was possibly going as high as 12 in some rankings and mocks.
For sure he dropped but I don't think it's to the point you have to think something was wrong with him (ie. Ebert). I'd liken this to Saad, Rocco Grimaldi, or perhaps Tomas Jurco's drop from last season. Just getting a bit lucky.

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Since he's under contract with a team in the SEL can he play in pre-season?

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It's true that lately he was expected to go anywhere from 20-25, but I remember at least one point during the course of the year he was possibly going as high as 12 in some rankings and mocks.
I've seen him everywhere from 11 (Corey Pronman had him ahead of the likes of Girgensens and Trouba) to about 25. So yeah, when you consider the general trend of forwards in general, and European based players dropping, he didn't fall THAT far, but I never expected him to fall to the second round, especially behind some projects and guys with far lower ceilings.

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2 things about Collberg:
  • He's a sniper and a RH shot, a combo that is definitely in short supply, particularly on the Habs. Hopefully he can crack the lineup in 2 or 3 years, just in time to replace Brain Gionta.
  • He is under contract for another year to play for Frolunda in Sweden. Let's hope he has a considerably expanded role next season and his development is not stunted by playing 6 minutes a game on a 4th line.

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06-24-2012, 11:03 AM
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Also funny, how close he was draft position-wise to Mats Naslund, who the Habs selected 37 in 1979. No pressure kid.

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Hard to put up numbers when you only play 4 minutes a game on the 4th line of a men league checking line
Here is where I am confused.
You say he is not good enough to play on a Swedish Men's League, but then you say he is good enough to play in the greatest league on Earth (NHL).
How can this be?

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Since he's under contract with a team in the SEL can he play in pre-season?
I don't think so unless we sign him to an ELC before. It could also be a situation where Frolunda has to give their OK.

Ottawa signed Zibanejad last July and he was at their camp and played 9 games.

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Here is where I am confused.
You say he is not good enough to play on a Swedish Men's League, but then you say he is good enough to play in the greatest league on Earth (NHL).
How can this be?
Because he was 17 years old most of this season. For him to be deemed merely good enough to play against men is quite a compliment.

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The Habs did it again. Another of my fav prospects from the draft lands in Montreal.

Collberg kept rising in my rankings all year. Here his in depth profile and interview in The Next Ones format. I interviewed him at the World Juniors right after his gold medal win with Sweden. Great kid:

http://thehockeywriters.com/sebastia...and-interview/

Admittedly higher than a lot of rankings (perhaps the highest) I had him ranked at 10th when it was all said & done in The NExt Ones FInal TOp 150 Rankings:
http://thehockeywriters.com/2012-nhl...inal-rankings/

If that's not enough to get Habs fans excited, I had him at 7th in the fantasy-based TOp 100 rankings, which is based on pure offensive upside:
http://thehockeywriters.com/2012-nhl...ased-rankings/

Brilliant pick by the Habs.

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Here is where I am confused.
You say he is not good enough to play on a Swedish Men's League, but then you say he is good enough to play in the greatest league on Earth (NHL).
How can this be?
lol what? All I did was explain his season to someone who didnt know why he didnt put up points

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Comparisons:

anyone out there knows who he plays like? (style, passing, shot, skating,etc).

I've seen only a few video clips of him (not enough to compare) and do like his style. Could end up being a top 6 sniper for us.

I just hope he will end up being way better than a Valeri Bure or a Sergei Berezin. (I'm sure he will based on everything I've read about him). Maybe he will be better or as good as Oilers' Hemsky?


Collberg in 2nd Round...very very happy, excited about this pick


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Comparisons:

anyone out there knows who he plays like? (style, passing, shot, skating,etc).

I've seen only a few video clips of him and do like his style.
Could end up being a sniper.

I just hope he will end up way better than a V.Bure or a Berezin.
(I'm sure he will based on everything I've read about him).


Collberg in 2nd Round...very very happy, excited about this pick
Timmins compared him to Daniel Alfredsson in one of the interviews after the draft.

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Timmins compared him to Daniel Alfredsson in one of the interviews after the draft.
As far as I'm concerned, the only time Timmins makes that comparison is when he says that he's build similarly to Daniel. Not sure he meant style of play. Unless I missed something which I'd really like to know and hear what he had to say.

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Mr. Hab, I'm certain that some archived U18 games are available on the internet. He played very well in that tournament registering 9 points in 6 games. He also had a great WJC with 4 goals, 7 points in 6 games.

When you watch him buzzing around the circles he reminds me of Ennis, but a lot bigger. He really likes to handle the puck and he's always trying to get clear looks at the net in order to use his excellent wrist shot.

He absolutely has top line potential, but, as with all prospects, requires development to get there. He seems to have the right head on his shoulders to get there as well, and really works hard on the ice, every shift.

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As far as I'm concerned, the only time Timmins makes that comparison is when he says that he's build similarly to Daniel. Not sure he meant style of play. Unless I missed something which I'd really like to know and hear what he had to say.
This is what Timmins said about him:

"He's 5-foot-11 and he's really thick and stocky, big legs on him," Timmins said. "He's built similar to Daniel Alfredsson, who I was with in Ottawa, and he plays a similar style of game -- on the puck, really committed and passionate about his game."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635912

Bergevin praised his tenacity, his competitiveness and his touch around the net and said he was targetting the player for Chicago when he worked for them.

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This is what Timmins said about him:

"He's 5-foot-11 and he's really thick and stocky, big legs on him," Timmins said. "He's built similar to Daniel Alfredsson, who I was with in Ottawa, and he plays a similar style of game -- on the puck, really committed and passionate about his game."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635912

Bergevin praised his tenacity, his competitiveness and his touch around the net and said he was targetting the player for Chicago when he worked for them.
Great thanks. In the vid, I just hear how he's build like him. Great thing to know!

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If Collberg becomes anything like Alfredsson, that would be amazing 2nd round pick.

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Bergevin praised his tenacity, his competitiveness and his touch around the net and said he was targetting the player for Chicago when he worked for them.
This draft has increased Bergevin's stock in my eyes. He might be full of ****, but I'm quite skeptical of it. Agree with his comments about Collberg.

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So the Habs drafted 6 players in my top 50, the only club to do so. I'm not even sure another team picked 4 of my top 50.

I had Galchenyuk ranked fist overall and Collberg 12th, Bozon 33rd, Thrower 39th and Vail 48th. Every pick by the habs in the first four rounds was either my top ranked guy or one of the top three left on my board.

I told Trevor either I'm getting better as a scout or we both screwed up. I have a feeling it's the former, but you never know. The Islanders were supposed to have killed it in 2008 in the first three rounds when they picked Bailey, Trivino, Ness, Hamonic, Toews, Niemi and Petrov..

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Timmins specifically said that he expects a little more growth out of Alex. Given all the attention that was given Alex's operation, it's entirely possible that they saw an unfused epiphyseal plate to support that. And generally the "upper-limit" for fusion of the long-bone plates is somewhere around 19.5 years.

...he is also very baby-faced.

However, he is pretty thick, and I would wager very strong too.
Keep it in english dude lol. For a moment there, I got scared he might have some kind of condition.

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Keep it in english dude lol. For a moment there, I got scared he might have some kind of condition.
Lol did you google it?

"What? That sounds serious!!"

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This is what Timmins said about him:

"He's 5-foot-11 and he's really thick and stocky, big legs on him," Timmins said. "He's built similar to Daniel Alfredsson, who I was with in Ottawa, and he plays a similar style of game -- on the puck, really committed and passionate about his game."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635912

Also...
Bergevin praised his tenacity, his competitiveness and his touch around the net and said he was targetting the player for Chicago when he worked for them.

Wow!! If Collberg comes close to Alfie I will be happy!!!


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To NotProkofevian:
Thnaks for info and Ennis comparison (I like Ennis and all the other small players from Buff, no sarcasm).

But...I'll hope Collberg ends up anything close to Daniel Alfredsson (really loove that comparison).


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So the Habs drafted 6 players in my top 50, the only club to do so. I'm not even sure another team picked 4 of my top 50.

I had Galchenyuk ranked first overall and Collberg 12th, Bozon 33rd, Thrower 39th and Vail 48th. Every pick by the habs in the first four rounds was either my top ranked guy or one of the top three left on my board.

I told Trevor either I'm getting better as a scout or we both screwed up. I have a feeling it's the former, but you never know. The Islanders were supposed to have killed it in 2008 in the first three rounds when they picked Bailey, Trivino, Ness, Hamonic, Toews, Niemi and Petrov..
This post started so well, and then...ended with such a negative note! (killjoy!!). Thanks for the obvious reminder that prospects can sometimes be busts!

I really really hope Trevor Timmins's picks will bring success to the Habs. Let's forget about Bailey, Trivino, Ness, Hamonic,etc... it's time for Habs to be happy since the 2011-2012 was one to forget.

Go Timmins Go!!


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The Habs did it again. Another of my fav prospects from the draft lands in Montreal.

Collberg kept rising in my rankings all year. Here his in depth profile and interview in The Next Ones format. I interviewed him at the World Juniors right after his gold medal win with Sweden. Great kid:

http://thehockeywriters.com/sebastia...and-interview/

Admittedly higher than a lot of rankings (perhaps the highest) I had him ranked at 10th when it was all said & done in The NExt Ones FInal TOp 150 Rankings:
http://thehockeywriters.com/2012-nhl...inal-rankings/

If that's not enough to get Habs fans excited, I had him at 7th in the fantasy-based TOp 100 rankings, which is based on pure offensive upside:
http://thehockeywriters.com/2012-nhl...ased-rankings/

Brilliant pick by the Habs.
May I ask who are the other prospects we picked that were high on your list?

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