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Erik Johnson to Philly

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06-24-2012, 05:53 PM
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Erik Johnson to Philly

How much would this move cost the Flyers?

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There is almost no way the Avs trade Johnson. It would have to be for a massive overpayment. We don`t have any D prospects with anywhere near his ability and potential.

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EJ will hold more value to Colorado than a "fair" return. He's their #1.

It would honestly cost in the realm of Couturier, Schenn, and a top 4 dman.

Even that sounds crazy typing that...I just don't see it happening.

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Start with Giroux

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would be a great move........

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Start with Giroux
While I agree that it would be stupid for Colorado to trade EJ, it does NOT start with Giroux.

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Schenn + Couturier

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Can you stop making a thread about every defenseman in the NHL to the Flyers? Just stop.

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Is EJ more valuable than Shea Weber?

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Can you stop making a thread about every defenseman in the NHL to the Flyers? Just stop.
He should feel free to make one about Mike Komisarek

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He's not going anywhere, so there's no need to even discuss the price.

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Can you stop making a thread about every defenseman in the NHL to the Flyers? Just stop.
I'm very interested and this is the last one of two.

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I didn't know the state of Pennsylvania was the place to be. Guess that's why appearently every star player will sign or be traded to Pitts/Philly.... and form a 2 team league

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Starts with Giroux is funny

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Highly doubt that the Avs trade their future franchise defenseman

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He should feel free to make one about Mike Komisarek
Komi let's be serious that would just be absurd. It would start with Giroux, I know that much.

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Starts with Giroux is funny
So is the idea that the Avs would trade EJ.

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While I agree that it would be stupid for Colorado to trade EJ, it does NOT start with Giroux.
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Starts with Giroux is funny
You want a #1 dman? Start by offering a #1 C simple

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More than any team would give and none of us want to hear how he is overrated either. Which is what this always turns into..

EJ is part of our core and we don't have anyone behind him that is a sure bet at having top two potential.

You guys just got Schenn!? WTF?! I thought for sure these threads would stop now..

Edit: People making comments about it starting with Giroux as being crazy don't realize that you have to pay what the organization values the player at NOT what the NHL/HFboard fan base thinks hes worth. His value comes from him being a core player and having a absolutely INSANE and unlimited upside inside of all that. So basically they are telling you he is probably one of if not THE MOST UNTOUCHABLE player on the team right now due to position, team needs, and potential. (And he plays well we are not JUST going on potential either.)


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You want a #1 dman? Start by offering a #1 C simple
EJ has #1 potential but he hasn't hit it yet.

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You want a #1 dman? Start by offering a #1 C simple
Bozak for Weber? Sweeeeeet. After all, a #1 center=a #1 dman, right?

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Giroux.

But seriously, the Avs won't move him.

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You want a #1 dman? Start by offering a #1 C simple
Yup, because the only way a star is traded is for another star player. Never for prospects, depth players, rookies, or picks.

Let's just say this. Disregarding the willingness of the Avs to trade EJ, the Flyers would simply not do it for Giroux, and it'd be silly to think that Cooter or Schenn couldn't be the centerpiece.

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Yup, because the only way a star is traded is for another star player. Never for prospects, depth players, rookies, or picks.

Let's just say this. Disregarding the willingness of the Avs to trade EJ, the Flyers would simply not do it for Giroux, and it'd be silly to think that Cooter or Schenn couldn't be the centerpiece.
The Avs don't need picks or depth players for their star dman. They have been rebuilding for a while now and if they are trading their main piece on the back end a main piece better be coming back and that main piece is Giroux

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The Avs don't need picks or depth players for their star dman. They have been rebuilding for a while now and if they are trading their main piece on the back end a main piece better be coming back and that main piece is Giroux
So people don't trade their star defensemen for anything less than another star? I'm not saying the Avs are looking to move him, at all, but I think it's silly to say that Schenn or Cooter wouldn't be enough as the centerpiece to nab most defensemen in this league. They're not depth players, which was misspoken by my part, for the record, they're up and coming stars. People trade for potential all of the time. Mike Richards, the star center, was traded for a prospect, a depth player, and a draft pick, when we greatly needed defense. Homer didn't say "start with Doughty." It's not the way it works man.

Giroux is on probably the best contract in the league right now, with a low cap hit for a few years and is producing top 3 numbers. There isn't anyone in the league I'd trade him for.

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