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06-24-2012, 09:41 PM
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Wouldn't move him for Schenn AND Couturier, just a silly idea to overcrowd our centers and leave our defense thin as ever.

The reason people say Giroux is because we'd need a clear upgrade to what we have on the roster in terms of offense for it to be even remotely worthwhile.

Giroux is the only roster forward you have that would make our offense good enough to even possibly justify the hole on defense.

Thus, the discussion is moot.

Also, those of the opinion either Schenn/Couturier = EJ, kindly mark off your calendars for a couple Avs games next year.
This thread is ridiculous.

You want Giroux?

Ok

Johnson, Duchene, Landeskog and your next 2 firsts. And guess what? I'd still hang up the phone on you.

Johnson's value is nowhere near enough to even get anyone in their right mind to have a discussion with you about Giroux.

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Is EJ more valuable than Shea Weber?
Considering all signs point to Weber becoming a UFA on July 1st, 2013....YES!

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In what world is EJ worth Couturier AND Schenn? Even to the flyers who have really deep centers and need young legit defenders, there's no chance in hell they'd do that. I think couturier is worth more than EJ straight up, or at the very least even. There's very little doubt that couturier ends up the better player, in my mind.
Lol...why? Cuz he scored those 3 tap-in goals and everyone on TSN had orgasms??

I shouldn't be surprised though:

- Just like if the Avs want JVR, it will cost Duchene
- Just like if the Leafs want JVR, it's going to take a whole lot more than Luke Schenn!

You overrate your players so much it's not even funny. So what exactly out of Couturier's 13 goal, 27 point season makes him so amazing that he's worth MORE than a top pairing NHL dman??

Gimme a break.

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This thread is ridiculous.

You want Giroux?

Ok

Johnson, Duchene, Landeskog and your next 2 firsts. And guess what? I'd still hang up the phone on you.

Johnson's value is nowhere near enough to even get anyone in their right mind to have a discussion with you about Giroux.
Nobody wants Giroux.

If you're going to call a thread ridiculous, you can start by actually reading it first.

And by the by, I wouldn't trade Landeskog for Giroux one for one.

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06-24-2012, 09:55 PM
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This thread is ridiculous.

You want Giroux?

Ok

Johnson, Duchene, Landeskog and your next 2 firsts. And guess what? I'd still hang up the phone on you.

Johnson's value is nowhere near enough to even get anyone in their right mind to have a discussion with you about Giroux.
Jeez, read much?

I didn't start this thread, I don't want to trade EJ and I sure as hell was being more reasonable than you.

EJ, Duchene, Landeskog and 2 1sts for ANYONE in the league is a joke.

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Face it, you wont get EJ for your scrubs.

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Face it, you wont get EJ for your scrubs.
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This thread is silly. We are thin on defense with EJ being our stud. Hence, drastic overpayment. Giroux is brought up for the SOLE reason to show other fans that he is not available unless it's for something too good to turn down (Ex. Giroux). Whoever here thinks anyone who watches hockey would think that EJ = Giroux in terms of value.. just needs to get their head examined. Everyone relax, Giroux is an absolute beast and EJ will remain a beauty Avalanche. Big year for the guy next year, he's going to have a good one.

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How about:


Claude Giroux


Erik Johnson
Tyson Barrie
Avs 2013 1st (11th if lockout )

I put my flame-retardant suit on this morning, so good luck.

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nice troll
its a fact.

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This thread is ridiculous.

You want Giroux?

Ok

Johnson, Duchene, Landeskog and your next 2 firsts. And guess what? I'd still hang up the phone on you.

Johnson's value is nowhere near enough to even get anyone in their right mind to have a discussion with you about Giroux.
You don't get it do you. Would we like Giroux? Yeah sure. Are we asking you him? No. Were merely saying that EJ means so much to the Avs, that thats the kind of overpayment it would take to move him. Were not saying its fair. The flyers would have to be out of their minds to even entertain the thought. Just as we would be crazy to entertain the thought of trading EJ for anything less. Have a problem with us asking for Giroux for our best D? Take it up with the OP who keeps making threads asking for other teams top D.



Oh, and btw, the other Avs fans saying they would not trade Landy straight up for Giroux are not crazy. We wouldn't

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This thread is ridiculous.

You want Giroux?

Ok

Johnson, Duchene, Landeskog and your next 2 firsts. And guess what? I'd still hang up the phone on you.

Johnson's value is nowhere near enough to even get anyone in their right mind to have a discussion with you about Giroux.
Omg. Stop making him sound like jesus. I like giroux and all but we would gut our future. Johnson,duchene.landeskog together contribute more then giroux would for us and you would be a bad Gm if you hanged up the phone.

Back on topic EJ means way to much to the us. He is one of defencemen that actually can log long minutes on our team.. We have not had a defencemen like him for a while. So unless a big overpayment was offered we would say no.

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Coburn and B Schenn for EJ and Mcginn

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JVR for EJ

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Man Couturier and B Schenn are so overrated by Philly fans

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Some of the Flyers fans in this thread are hilarious. We want your #1 defenceman but al our valuable pieces are off-limits.

I'd argue that EJ may me the most important piece on the Avalanche moving forward, so trading him at all is a heck of a longshot, let alone for spare parts.

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Coburn and B Schenn for EJ and Mcginn
No....definitely not. Adding McGinn guaranteed kills it.

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Oh, and btw, the other Avs fans saying they would not trade Landy straight up for Giroux are not crazy. We wouldn't
That IS crazy. That's like saying we wouldn't trade Couturier for Stamkos.

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That IS crazy. That's like saying we wouldn't trade Couturier for Stamkos.
Landeskog has undoubtedly accomplished more in his first NHL season than Giroux's first NHL season.

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That IS crazy. That's like saying we wouldn't trade Couturier for Stamkos.
Forgive me for saying this, but I'd rather have Stamkos than Giroux. 60 goals in one season (and 41 and 50) vs a guy with 78 career goals?

I mean, Giroux is a star. He's an excellent player. But he's not Stamkos.

And I know this isn't the comparison you are making, but Couturier didn't win the Calder and achieve as much as Landeskog did in the regular season.

Bombs away

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It's cool that I'm a retard because I'm suggesting I don't want to trade our Calder trophy winner, who had 20G + 200hits and MORE POINTS THAN GIROUX in his 1st season, than Giroux DID IN HIS SECOND SEASON!!!

Yeah, I'm WAYYYYYY off base here. I'm completely off my rocker!!! Giroux, at 24 is already better than anyone younger than him can ever possibly HOPE to be forever and ever and this was all very obvious when Giroux was 18 as well.

Thanks for the info. I'd love to subscribe to your newsletter. I guess I should reconsider, it's true that Landeskog doesn't get himself suspended for a playoff game when his teams needs him the most. I'm sold!!!

Oh yeah, I guess WE SHOULD make that trade considering we have Stastny, O'Reilly and Duchene already...there I go talking like a retard again.
If you look at Giroux's minutes, linemates and games for his rookie year you'll see why the production totals aren't really a good comparable to Landeskog. Landeskog is also built like a brick ****house that came into the league as a grown ass man (physically), Giroux was like 170 pounds when he came into the NHL. Room for improvement with Landeskog is there of course, but his ceiling is below Giroux overall, and certainly well below him offensively. That's just my opinion, I don't think you're nuts if you think differently (especially if you're an Avs fan).

But that stuff is sort of not the point. Giroux is a known quantity. You don't have to wonder if he'll hit the level he's on now, because he's on it now. I honestly believe no GM in the league is turning down Giroux for Landeskog straight up if they get offered it tomorrow. How the two of them compare in three years, who knows.

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This thread should be closed lol

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This thread should be closed lol
Probably, lol.

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Landeskog has undoubtedly accomplished more in his first NHL season than Giroux's first NHL season.
There is no way to project that out further with any certainty. Anyone who wouldn't trade Landeskog for Giroux is out to lunch. You're talking about a top-5 forward in the league on an insanely favorable contract.

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That IS crazy. That's like saying we wouldn't trade Couturier for Stamkos.
Hmmm....I'll take Stamkos over Giroux, thanks, and definitely Landeskog or Couturier. Perhaps this appears crazy to you, and I can see why, but Landeskog means a ton to our franchise. I would not do it straight up. Forget adding Johnson+Duchene+2 1st or whatever that other guy proposed

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