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06-25-2012, 10:51 AM
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Has anyone around here watched him play on a fairly regular basis? To me, he sounds a lot like Kyle Chipchura when he was drafted in 2004 at number 18. Both guys are limited offensively, but both should make at least an NHL impact on a third line. Hopefully Laughton becomes the two way force that Chip never could become.

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I like Laughton's skill set and what I've read about him; however, I'd be surprised if "perfect third-line centre" was handwritten in the margin next to a team's options for a 1st round pick. Increase the surprise when a franchise has such a glaring non-forward need. Laughton with a 2nd round pick? Great choice.
This is what annoys me. Why was Laughton a 2nd round pick to you? Because the general scouting services had him listed as such? There's no guarantee Laughton would've still been around at #45, and given his performance at the World Juniors and then once he started getting top-6 minutes for Oshawa, something tells me the Flyers felt he was just starting to scratch the surface of his potential and would be selected before their second pick. If you like a player and he's at the top of your board, you take him, overall pick or perceived "value" be damned. I think the Flyers' scouting staff has earned the benefit of the doubt here.

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06-25-2012, 11:23 AM
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Has anyone around here watched him play on a fairly regular basis? To me, he sounds a lot like Kyle Chipchura when he was drafted in 2004 at number 18. Both guys are limited offensively, but both should make at least an NHL impact on a third line. Hopefully Laughton becomes the two way force that Chip never could become.
I'm sure you'll find someone to offer an expert opinion and comparison of players, but there is very, very little chance that anyone who watches Laughton fairly regularly in the OHL would have also seen Chipchura fairly regularly when he played in the WHL.

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This is what annoys me. Why was Laughton a 2nd round pick to you? Because the general scouting services had him listed as such? There's no guarantee Laughton would've still been around at #45, and given his performance at the World Juniors and then once he started getting top-6 minutes for Oshawa, something tells me the Flyers felt he was just starting to scratch the surface of his potential and would be selected before their second pick. If you like a player and he's at the top of your board, you take him, overall pick or perceived "value" be damned. I think the Flyers' scouting staff has earned the benefit of the doubt here.
Yeah, we're really good at selecting in the first round, especially when it comes to forwards. Now, if we could just keep them around...

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06-25-2012, 11:47 AM
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He shouldn't regret making the trade for Pronger, he should regret the fact he thought his job was done after making it. It would have been worse of he didn't have to fire Stevens (which should have happened after 2009), and got outright lucky trading for Leino.
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Wait, what? Are you suggesting that Pronger's concussion was somehow the result of his minutes played?

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06-25-2012, 12:38 PM
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This is what annoys me. Why was Laughton a 2nd round pick to you? Because the general scouting services had him listed as such? There's no guarantee Laughton would've still been around at #45, and given his performance at the World Juniors and then once he started getting top-6 minutes for Oshawa, something tells me the Flyers felt he was just starting to scratch the surface of his potential and would be selected before their second pick. If you like a player and he's at the top of your board, you take him, overall pick or perceived "value" be damned. I think the Flyers' scouting staff has earned the benefit of the doubt here.
No, I'm equating the term perfect third-line centre to where in the draft I believe such a player should arguably be chosen. The players I want to see picked in the 1st round have 1st/2nd line -- 1st/2nd pairing potential. I don't know Laughton's game; I've only read the scouting reports posted here. I didn't even know where he was listed by the scouting services, so that didn't factor into my post. The point I was trying to make is that if the Flyers admin are choosing a forward (point of strength) instead of a defenseman (significant point of weakness), the forward should be someone special.

If Laughton has Mike Richards written all over him, I'll read my own post with pleasure and self-deprecation in a few years when someone bumps this thread. If he becomes a strong 2-way forward who anchors the third line and complements the skilled forwards who are already on the team, I'll be satisfied, no more no less. Otherwise, I'll think the team's 1st round pick could have been much better spent.

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06-25-2012, 01:55 PM
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As frustrating as the Flyers management can be, IMO they've earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to 1st round draft picks. They might not always make the best pick, but they're typically good at finding NHL regulars.

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Scott Laughton is a stone cold killer.

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Enjoyed watching this. He didn't get any points, but I really liked his defensive game.

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I was expecting them to draft defence 1st, but this guy sounds like a supreme shutdown guy. Further down the line Couts can be #2 centre on scoring line and Laughton could be great 3rd line C. Time will tell. Just too bad he will likely be traded away on June 23, 2017.

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No, I'm equating the term perfect third-line centre to where in the draft I believe such a player should arguably be chosen. The players I want to see picked in the 1st round have 1st/2nd line -- 1st/2nd pairing potential. I don't know Laughton's game; I've only read the scouting reports posted here. I didn't even know where he was listed by the scouting services, so that didn't factor into my post. The point I was trying to make is that if the Flyers admin are choosing a forward (point of strength) instead of a defenseman (significant point of weakness), the forward should be someone special.

If Laughton has Mike Richards written all over him, I'll read my own post with pleasure and self-deprecation in a few years when someone bumps this thread. If he becomes a strong 2-way forward who anchors the third line and complements the skilled forwards who are already on the team, I'll be satisfied, no more no less. Otherwise, I'll think the team's 1st round pick could have been much better spent.
I see where you are coming from with this and I kind of agree. I'm not excited about the pick, I don't really hate it either though. Building up a point of strength isn't something to scoff at.

If this kid can turn into a solid defensive center who can chip in on offense and anchor our third line, we can go Giroux-Couturier-Laughton down the middle. That frees up a forward asset that can be used down the road, think of the possibilities.

Instead of drafting a developing a d-man (which usually takes years to do properly and the Flyers have no history of doing) they can use their position of strength (forward depth) to trade for one who is ready now. Or looking ahead a year they could let Hartnell walk and use his money while maintaining their depth.

It also helps make our lineup a little more fluid. I like Schenn but there were times last year when his line would get pinned in their own zone for long stretches (that might just be part of being linemates with Briere and Simmonds). Having Couturier and another defensively responsible center anchor our 2nd and 3rd lines while shifting Schenn and Briere to the wings might go a long way in improving our overall team defense.

Having some size and defense down the middle was a need last year. Maybe not to the extent of fixing the defense but definitely glaring. In fact I think our defensmen (and obviously Bryz although I think he deserves most of the criticism he gets for last year) take more than their share of blame for an overall lack of team defense by our forwards so he might help the defense look better too.

He's probably not going to be ready next year like Couturier but he'll probably be ready to contribute sooner than a d-man and I trust the Flyers drafting first round forwards. It's a safe pick and if he can turn into a solid 2 way center then I'll be fine with it.

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I see where you are coming from with this and I kind of agree. I'm not excited about the pick, I don't really hate it either though. Building up a point of strength isn't something to scoff at.

If this kid can turn into a solid defensive center who can chip in on offense and anchor our third line, we can go Giroux-Couturier-Laughton down the middle. That frees up a forward asset that can be used down the road, think of the possibilities.

Instead of drafting a developing a d-man (which usually takes years to do properly and the Flyers have no history of doing) they can use their position of strength (forward depth) to trade for one who is ready now. Or looking ahead a year they could let Hartnell walk and use his money while maintaining their depth.

It also helps make our lineup a little more fluid. I like Schenn but there were times last year when his line would get pinned in their own zone for long stretches (that might just be part of being linemates with Briere and Simmonds). Having Couturier and another defensively responsible center anchor our 2nd and 3rd lines while shifting Schenn and Briere to the wings might go a long way in improving our overall team defense.

Having some size and defense down the middle was a need last year. Maybe not to the extent of fixing the defense but definitely glaring. In fact I think our defensmen (and obviously Bryz although I think he deserves most of the criticism he gets for last year) take more than their share of blame for an overall lack of team defense by our forwards so he might help the defense look better too.

He's probably not going to be ready next year like Couturier but he'll probably be ready to contribute sooner than a d-man and I trust the Flyers drafting first round forwards. It's a safe pick and if he can turn into a solid 2 way center then I'll be fine with it.
This. All this.

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My only worry abnout this pick:
A list of his favorites.

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NHL Team: Toronto Maple Leafs

Player: Mike Richards

Movie: The Other Guys

Band/Singer: Carrie Underwood

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My only worry abnout this pick:
A list of his favorites.

Favourites:

NHL Team: Toronto Maple Leafs

Player: Mike Richards

Movie: The Other Guys

Band/Singer: Carrie Underwood

TV Show: Sportscentre

Colour: Red

Video Game: NHL 11

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Wasn't there a kid we drafted last year who's favorite movie was the Wizard of Oz or something real lame like that and everyone got on his case?

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06-26-2012, 10:23 AM
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My only worry abnout this pick:
A list of his favorites.

Favourites:

NHL Team: Toronto Maple Leafs

Player: Mike Richards

Movie: The Other Guys

Band/Singer: Carrie Underwood

TV Show: Sportscentre

Colour: Red

Video Game: NHL 11

Pump Up Song: New Noise- Refused
Hey, maybe he's just in touch with his sensitive side.

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Seeing a few interviews with him the last few days, I'm still not sure he isn't bat**** crazy..

He just has that psycho face

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lmao, what a perfect video

ending makes it

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Enjoyed watching this. He didn't get any points, but I really liked his defensive game.
Lot of Mike Richards right there.
Probably a better skater, though.

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ending makes it
Should've eaten that card.
Right on that tape he should have eaten it!

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This will be the year in which we will all find out how good offensively Laughton is. He really didn't get a chance to play on the offense until the 2nd half of the season and he really started producing once he got a chance to play.

This year, Laughton comes in as the top center in Oshawa and will be flanked by Boone Jenner and Lucas Lessio. There's no reason to believe that he can't put up a point per game on that line. After all, when he was moved to a scoring role in December, for the rest of the OHL season, he popped 41 points in 39 games. There's an untapped offensive game to Laughton's make up and I think he's really going to shine this year.

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No, I'm equating the term perfect third-line centre to where in the draft I believe such a player should arguably be chosen. The players I want to see picked in the 1st round have 1st/2nd line -- 1st/2nd pairing potential. I don't know Laughton's game; I've only read the scouting reports posted here. I didn't even know where he was listed by the scouting services, so that didn't factor into my post. The point I was trying to make is that if the Flyers admin are choosing a forward (point of strength) instead of a defenseman (significant point of weakness), the forward should be someone special.

If Laughton has Mike Richards written all over him, I'll read my own post with pleasure and self-deprecation in a few years when someone bumps this thread. If he becomes a strong 2-way forward who anchors the third line and complements the skilled forwards who are already on the team, I'll be satisfied, no more no less. Otherwise, I'll think the team's 1st round pick could have been much better spent.
Doesn't depend on the draft as far as quality of 1st rd pick. It is easy to say I want a 1st/2nd line/dpair player in the first round but that is completely up to the depth in the draft. If you look at the forwards taken after Laughton (Guance, Samuelsson, Matteau, Janikowski), they all were considered 3rd line types or in the case of Janikowski, a huge question mark as far as NHL potential. There were plenty of defensemen taken after but they are a crap shoot. You are just as likely to get a top defensemen outside of the first round as you are at the end of it. People would have flipped if the Flyers drafted Tom Wilson, who might be nothing more than a fourth liner. Yet he was picked a few picks before the flyers even had a chance. That shows you the deph of this draft.

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