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06-25-2012, 05:34 PM
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Still, what were the chance of those two to make any kind of impact at the NHL level?
Well some thought that Conboy could have made a 4th line. I do especially believe it. And I have never had any faith for Fortier whatsoever. But true that I even suggested that Fortier could have even be ECHL material in order for the Dogs to ice a team with a little more vets in it. But Fortier did show some improvement and in the end, could be of some help for a AHL team.

I'm not against those moves. It's all fine. Just saying that I am a little surprised by it. But loves to see that we have around 10 spots now to fill whether it,s for the big team or the AHL as well which is nice to have. Now, if we can trade a few other guys for a pick.....like Mayer and a few more.....it would be even better. I know Mayer isn't a worth a pick, well let make it conditional, let say if Mayer reaches the NHL or plays 50+ games in the AHL, we get a pick. If not...we don't care.

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06-25-2012, 05:35 PM
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What a shame about Blunden, too bad

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There's 100 Blunden's in the wait. We'll find another one.

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06-25-2012, 05:40 PM
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10 Habs have received QOs: P.K. Subban, Raphael Diaz, Alexei Emelin, Lars Eller, Andreas Engqvist, Blake Geoffrion, Brendon Nash, Aaron Palushaj, Frederic St-Denis & Ryan White. DETAILS:

http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=636054

EDIT: Anyone got the list of those who are UFA's now?
nice to see st-denis get a bit of recognition, ..i thought he looked good at times

glad for yemelin and engqvist as im not rly ready to give up on him

but from what ive seen from blake geoffrion, i dont know..his skating is just NOT really impressive, we'll see

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06-25-2012, 05:47 PM
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It is 41, but you can think that Moen will be signed and I would also bet so will Darche. So it's really 43. But I guess we'll wait for Darche.

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06-25-2012, 05:50 PM
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Bit sad to see conboy go.

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06-25-2012, 05:53 PM
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There's 100 Blunden's in the wait. We'll find another one.
Yep. I don't think we'll have a problem "replacing" any of the guys we didn't qualify.

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06-25-2012, 05:55 PM
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There's 100 Blunden's in the wait. We'll find another one.
But do they speak french?

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06-25-2012, 05:58 PM
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Yep. I don't think we'll have a problem "replacing" any of the guys we didn't qualify.
True. I would think that for St-Denis as well, though, St-Denis seems to me like a perfect 2-way replacement for D. When he plays in Hamilton, he's a good player and great role model for the kids. And when he's called up for short term, the guy just plays his role and stay inside of his limits making him almost mistake free 'cause he doesn't take any chances. Pretty sure we'd find his limitations if he'd be on a more regular role but as of now, it can't be in the cards. But in the role he's playing now, while there could be other players like him, of course, at least we know him well and know he could do the job. And it's also a way to recognize his work which is something you have to do once in a while.

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06-25-2012, 06:05 PM
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Yeah I guest Conboy and Fortier are the only ones in the group that still had some value but then again they needed to make some space for all those newcomers and neither of the two had really impressed. I was one of those who though that Conboy might make it to a 4 line in the NHL but he kinda hit a wall in his development and then the injury last year pretty much stopped him dead on his tracks. To bad really, he was one of the very few prospect in the organization with a legitimate mean streak .
As for Fortier I didn't care much for the pick at the time, smallish defensive forwards with very limited offensive upside even in the Q pretty much mean he would never make it sort of some sort of miracle. Ass the fact that he is uber injury prone and his fate was sealed as they say...

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06-25-2012, 06:06 PM
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Expect Tampa Bay to be all over Fortier.
I laughed out loud.

The Blunden fan in the organization was RC (and he was a superfan of Blunden) and he's gone, so no surprise at all he was not given a QO.

Dudley and Bergevin were also in Chicago when Blunden crapped the bed as a high 2nd rounder, so that probably did not help his cause.

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06-25-2012, 06:11 PM
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Marc-André Gragnani Hasn't been qualified by VAN. Young interesting defencemen.

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06-25-2012, 06:32 PM
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Marc-André Gragnani Hasn't been qualified by VAN. Young interesting defencemen.
I wouldn't mind him as depth, I like him as a PMD. Probably not of use to us in the NHL while we have Kaberle and Diaz, but as organizational depth?

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Marc-André Gragnani Hasn't been qualified by VAN. Young interesting defencemen.
He makes Kaberle look like Pronger in terms of meanness.

Mueller and Porter weren't qualified.

Latendresse could be good for a comeback on the bottom 6. Playing with Eller and maybe Moen would be the best linemates he'd play with in Montreal for more than 5 games.

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In agreement about being a bit surprised about Conboy/Fortier. Seems like the injury bug hit them both hard though which definitely didn't help their stock. Fortier seemed like the kinda guy who got on some good hot streaks though, and had some PP skills. But nonetheless, we have some better (hopefully, presumably) young guys coming in and I'm sure the spots will be filled. Maybe this even signals a bit of a commitment on the new management to finding some great veterans for Hamilton? Who knows. I think the previous management was okay in that respect but could have done better.

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06-25-2012, 06:45 PM
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I think the long list of unqualified RFA's means that Bergevin is interested in building the team through free agency, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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I think the long list of unqualified RFA's means that Bergevin is interested in building the team through free agency, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Hopefully a couple of Prust, Gaustad, McClement, and maybe a year of Latendresse to see how it goes the 2nd time around.

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Hopefully a couple of Prust, Gaustad, McClement, and maybe a year of Latendresse to see how it goes the 2nd time around.
Prust and Gaustad yes. Tenderness, I hope not.

I don't see him coming back either, I think his last experience with the team soured the whole "Montreal" experience.

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Prust and Gaustad yes. Tenderness, I hope not.

I don't see him coming back either, I think his last experience with the team soured the whole "Montreal" experience.
Don't see a problem with him coming back on a short-term deal to see how things work.

Give him 1-2 years, by that time he either establishes himself as a solid forward for us (by this I mean he stays healthy and returns to his Minny-form) or we have someone coming up through the system ready to take his spot (Leblanc, Gallagher, Kristo,Collberg).

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06-25-2012, 07:09 PM
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It is 41, but you can think that Moen will be signed and I would also bet so will Darche. So it's really 43. But I guess we'll wait for Darche.
if there is 100 Blundens, same applies to



Habs need to look to see if there is an UPGRADE..... example Jordan TOOTOO or Darche?

Darche is Martin Gauthier,shocked if Habs scour NHL and can't find an upgrade./

We need someone who can put up more offense in a 3rd /4th line role .


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I'm glad Andreas Engqvist and Brendan Nash were qualified.

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06-25-2012, 07:13 PM
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if there is 100 Blundens, same applies to



Habs need to look to see if there is an UPGRADE..... example Jordan TOOTOO or Darche?
Well, Darche is my St-Denis. Darche is a guy we know and a perfect 13th forward for the team. Good ambassador, if we are indeed interested in bringing more local flavor in the team, he's great to have around. And if we need him, he'd be doing the job. So when you add everything, he's good in his role. Yes, there could be others who could do that. But let say that Blunden didn't bring as much on and off the ice.

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I'm glad Andreas Engqvist and Brendan Nash were qualified.
Same here. Especially Nash who really deserves to see what he has to offer. I have that feeling that it would be Engqvist last year with us but I guess we'll see.

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Well, Darche is my St-Denis. Darche is a guy we know and a perfect 13th forward for the team. Good ambassador, if we are indeed interested in bringing more local flavor in the team, he's great to have around. And if we need him, he'd be doing the job. So when you add everything, he's good in his role. Yes, there could be others who could do that. But let say that Blunden didn't bring as much on and off the ice.
I'd much rather keep Darche than Blunden, but saying that Blunden didn't bring as much on and off the ice is an understatement. He was pretty useless altogether.

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Well, Darche is my St-Denis. Darche is a guy we know and a perfect 13th forward for the team. Good ambassador, if we are indeed interested in bringing more local flavor in the team, he's great to have around. And if we need him, he'd be doing the job. So when you add everything, he's good in his role. Yes, there could be others who could do that. But let say that Blunden didn't bring as much on and off the ice.
There is a reason Habs sunk, and it was that type of thinking .

No better ambassador than Steve Begin ....you get my point .

Darche is a great guy, but if you honestly look at entire NHL and say he is best as it get's? sorry.
It;s not good enough to be a great guy.....Habs need someone that can PRODUCE more.
We need someone who can put up 25-30 pt or more in a 3rd /4 line role .
Give him a front office job./

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