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06-25-2012, 05:38 PM
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Kings open contract talks with Jonathan Quick

Lombardi just said they've started talks with Quick.

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EDIT: Ziggy beat me to it.

LOL @ Quick contract joke.

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25 year deal for Quick

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There's probably going to be a lot of talk about this so I put it in another topic. Ideally he'll get the Rinne deal. Realistically I think it's going to be a bit more in terms of total dollars paid out to him.

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From what Lombardi stated, it appears both sides are willing to get a deal done, and sounds like they will get it done this summer and it won't elongate like the Doughty negotiations.

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25 year deal for Quick
At least.

Magic Johnson got a 25-year, $25 million deal in the mid-80s and we all dropped our jaws.

Of course, that was meant to lock him up, long-term.

With the NHL's current policy, of course this is a joke, and DL was quick to take it back. But he no doubt will get a Rinne-type deal.

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He's gonna take a hometown discount like Drew did right?

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There's probably going to be a lot of talk about this so I put it in another topic. Ideally he'll get the Rinne deal. Realistically I think it's going to be a bit more in terms of total dollars paid out to him.
I am crossing my fingers for a take less long term deal hometown discount double coupon taco tuesday deal.

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From what Lombardi stated, it appears both sides are willing to get a deal done, and sounds like they will get it done this summer and it won't elongate like the Doughty negotiations.
Obviously we all want their to be a long-term deal in place in the next month or so, but their won't be a Doughty situation this year because Quick is already under contract for 12-13.

I look at something between 7 and 10 years, the number being closer to 7 with 7 years and 6 with 10 years.

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Obviously we all want their to be a long-term deal in place in the next month or so, but their won't be a Doughty situation this year because Quick is already under contract for 12-13.
By Doughty talks I meant something that lingers all summer and through camp. Quick coming to camp with the extension talks behind him will be a huge relief for both sides. Entering the season with Quick in a UFA year would be quite worrisome.

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I thought the Kings couldn't start talking to him July 1? Or they can talk to him and he can't sign before July 1?

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^ Just can't sign.

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By Doughty talks I meant something that lingers all summer and through camp. Quick coming to camp with the extension talks behind him will be a huge relief for both sides. Entering the season with Quick in a UFA year would be quite worrisome.
After re-reading it, I get what you're saying. Sorry.

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I thought the Kings couldn't start talking to him July 1? Or they can talk to him and he can't sign before July 1?
They can talk but can't sign till July 1.

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IM assuming he is talking to Quick, so he can get an idea about what he can go after in the free agent market.

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I think quick will get a 7 years/49 mil deal. I think its fair

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oddly, i duno if i want Quick in too long a contract. He's so reliant on his athleticism that goalies like him feel age more dramatically. There's always some exceptions, but it's a risk. Look at Potvin when his speed dropped just a little.

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He is going to take 4.5 mill a year like that one poster said, you watch.

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He is going to take 4.5 mill a year like that one poster said, you watch.
Maybe if he got a DiPietro like contract like Lombardi was joking about.

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So... hand him a blank piece of paper and a pen?

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Does everyone really want a 10+ year contract for a goalie? I'm still nervous for anything over 5 years. Very few goalies continue to dominate the NHL for years at a time and even the best of them sign short term deals. Just look at Bryz and Luongo, both look really bad right now.

If Dean really wants a low cap hit, he can sign him for $80 million over 14 years. Put most of the money in the first 10 years and 4 million over the last 4 years. So it would essentially be a $76 million deal for 10 years with a $5.7 million cap hit. Not that I would do that with a goalie.


The Kings already have a Stanley Cup. No reason to go too crazy on his next contract. Maybe $32.5-35 for 5 years. I'm not as worried about the cap hit as I am the length.

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Does everyone really want a 10+ year contract for a goalie? I'm still nervous for anything over 5 years. Very few goalies continue to dominate the NHL for years at a time and even the best of them sign short term deals. Just look at Bryz and Luongo, both look really bad right now.

If Dean really wants a low cap hit, he can sign him for $80 million over 14 years. Put most of the money in the first 10 years and 4 million over the last 4 years. So it would essentially be a $76 million deal for 10 years with a $5.7 million cap hit. Not that I would do that with a goalie.


The Kings already have a Stanley Cup. No reason to go too crazy on his next contract. Maybe $32.5-35 for 5 years. I'm not as worried about the cap hit as I am the length.
The length of the contract is more important to me than the cap hit, too. As amazing as Quick played this season and as much as he's improved every season, it's still a huge risk to give him a contract into his mid-to-late thirties. I would rather Quick have a larger cap hit for 5 to 6 seasons than a slightly lower cap hit for 10+ years.

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Luongo and DiPietro contract disasters show it's not smart to go 10+ years for goaltenders.

5 years 38 million
6 years 44 million
7 years 49 million.

Quick's choice.

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Yup more money less years is the better way to go imo. I'd say 5-6 years.

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I'd go as much as 9 years at $50M (AAV of $5.56M). That would lock Quick up until he is 34, which still gives him room to sign another contract at the end of the deal prior to retirement. Knock on wood, he's been healthy and durable throughout his career and I've heard Jim Fox say countless times that he is the best athlete on the team.

Lombardi doesn't sound concerned about Quick's commitment of wanting to get better. We always hear about him being ultra competitive, even in practices. He's going to be in a Kings uniform for a long time and I think it makes sense for both sides to make that long term commitment.

Pay him $6M in the first two years, $7M in the following three years after when he'll be 28-30 years of age, then have it incrementally decrease as it gets to the last four years of the contract (with the last year on the deal earning him $3.5M as a 34 year old goalie).

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