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will we miss Keith Aulie now, and for years to come?

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06-25-2012, 08:38 PM
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i think both Ashton and Aulie are just whatever. Neither will be anything big, maybe 3/4th liner grinder, and 3rd pairing D

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Well, I certainly won't. Don't know why anyone would.

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06-25-2012, 08:41 PM
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Korbinian Holzer is the best player not playing in the NHL?

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06-25-2012, 08:44 PM
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I hated the trade and still do. Ashton showed nothing at all.....other then he could skate!
& scrap. At the end of the day I don't think we'll miss either

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06-25-2012, 08:47 PM
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Aulie is poop, he played worse in Norfolk then Ashton did in Toronto.

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06-25-2012, 08:50 PM
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That was an even trade as well, very similar to the Schenn/JVR trade, but involving prospects on the verge of NHL employment.

THe Leafs are deep enough at D that I am not worried.

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06-25-2012, 08:50 PM
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I don't know what Ashton will give us in the end but he is rated fairly highly. I do know that we really won't miss Aulie. He is a player with a very replaceable skill set.

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06-25-2012, 08:51 PM
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aulie's just a bigger version of schenn

big #5 D's arent that hard to find

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06-25-2012, 08:53 PM
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Matthew Finn will be a better play when it's all said and done. The kid has #1D potential written all over him.
Mat Finn is going to be a stud, when i saw on HF we drafted him i thought it was a misprint have no idea how he dropped.

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or just sign Allen or any other big slow dman

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06-25-2012, 08:55 PM
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I dont think this deal is anything groundbreaking or to get upset about.

Aulie really didn't have the highest potential, neither does Ashton.

They're both more than likely going to be role players on their respective teams in the future, with a chance of being a little bit more.

Aulie realistically is going to be a physical and mobile #5-6 defender who can play spot minutes as a Top 4 and work on the penalty kill due to his long reach. He's certainly not going to be an offensive juggernaut, nor will he be anything to write him about in the future.

As for Ashton, he's got the tools to be a Top 6 Power Forward, but more than likely plays in a teams bottom 6, while providing solid mobility as well, size and some grit. A very good compliment to anyones bottom 6 that wants those assets there.

IMO, we need Ashton's "potential" outcome much more than we do Aulies.

I'd do this trade again today, especially now that we've picked up Reilly and Finn.

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I seen Aulie play with Norfolk in the AHL playoffs quite a bit, and I thought he had regressed. Wasn't as imposing physically as I expected, and made a few fumbles. He was on a great team too, but he seemed a bit off to me.

I thought the same thing to the point that I was wondering if he might be hurt.

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06-25-2012, 09:13 PM
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Look at Ashton's upside and look at Aulie's upside. If both players reach their potential and become the players that scouts think they'll be, which one do you think would be harder to replace?

The answer: Carter Ashton

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06-25-2012, 09:17 PM
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I thought the same thing to the point that I was wondering if he might be hurt.
They chose not to play him much. They didn't really feel they needed to.

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06-25-2012, 09:22 PM
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People are actually already writing off Ashton?

Yeesh. He's a PWF who's a work in progress.

He was the youngest player on the Leafs last season, yet he was easily one of the best along the boards. That says a lot about the team more than anything, but also speaks to Ashton's abilities. PWFs take much longer to develop than finesse type players, and I think he's progressing quite nicely.

Also, he wasn't amazing in the finals, but that's only because he was rushed back from a concussion after Kadri, Zigo and Frattin went down with injuries.

I'd still do that trade in a heartbeat. Remember he's also two years younger than Aulie, which gives us an extra two years with a top prospect in the system. This is an important fact when you think about contract discussions and waiver eligibility. Aulie also would've been stuck in the middle of a plethora of defencemen in the system, while Ashton helped our thin crop of PWF prospects.

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I thought the same thing to the point that I was wondering if he might be hurt.
Aulie struggled in preseason and never found the game his game all year. He may have been hurt playing with Norfolk but I don't think injury would affect him for a full season. I'd be more inclined to attribute it to just having a bit of a slump. He'll most likely recover from it. I'm sure a Calder Cup to his resume should be a huge motivator for him.

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I think that Carter Ashton will be a lot better than what people expect. He became victim to the Leafs playing players where they shouldn't be playing. He should eventually be a 3rd line shutdown centreman, with the potential of moving up to the 2nd line in an injury situation.

You'd like him to stay away from fighting, but he's a good skater and he will for sure open some eyes in training camp this year.

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06-25-2012, 09:28 PM
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Realistically, I would be ECSTATIC if Carter Ashton can become a Dwight King for us.

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06-25-2012, 09:29 PM
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We had Komi, Schenn, Holzer and Aulie as pure shutdown D-men (correct me if I'm wrong on Holzer) I just don't see how a team could carry 4 slower, 1 dimensional players, when the game has a huge emphasis on speed and skating now.

Leafs need to get smarter and faster on the back end, we have Phaneuf, Komi and a spot for Holzer already.

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06-25-2012, 09:50 PM
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I hated the trade and still do. Ashton showed nothing at all.....other then he could skate!
From someone who goes to Marlie games I will strongly disagree with your opinion of young Mr. Ashton.

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06-25-2012, 11:06 PM
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We had an excessive amount of dmen and that allowed us to trade aulie who struggled while playing for the leafs year for a higher rated prospect Ashton.

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06-25-2012, 11:19 PM
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06-25-2012, 11:29 PM
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06-25-2012, 11:31 PM
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I was never really on the aulie bandwagon. He was a nice throw in with phauef, but he was pretty slow and not the greatest hockey iq or skill to make up for it. Ashton is not that skilled himself, but at least its something we need.

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He was ok and showed some grit but it didn't stick. Wish him well but Ashton could be a valuable addition with a little patience.

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