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06-25-2012, 12:27 PM
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Goalie prospects?

Now that our chance to get a goalie prospect at the draft is gone, what UFA goalie prospects should we target?

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06-25-2012, 03:16 PM
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Now that our chance to get a goalie prospect at the draft is gone, what UFA goalie prospects should we target?
From the NCAA, a lot of the talk is about next year's FA crop turning pro, although many won't be seniors like Doug Carr and others so it's just speculation. But if I'm the Habs, I pay close attention as there are several very good NCAA undrafted goalies worth taking a look at imo.

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I think the Habs are taking the Devils route, keep Price for a couple decades, don't even look sideways at other goalies

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But in all seriousness, no immediate need for goaltending prospects, although Timmins did say they wanted to select one in the past draft but weren't comfortable taking them where they were drafting. Don't know why we'd need anything else than a dependable back-up and a couple serviceable free agents for Hamilton for the next like.... forever.

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Haha our goalie depth is pathetic. It went from Price, Danis, Halak and I believe Desjardins to Price and Robert Mayer.

On that note, I'd offer Desjardins a 2-3 year contract and have him replace Budaj in a year. We should have never got rid of him.

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Yeah, drafting a goalie would have helped a bit. Oh well, they can bring in a couple for try-outs.

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There were more compelling needs to address in the 2012 draft, namely, talent up front. In 2013 the Habs will have three picks in the second round and can afford to dabble. I wouldn't be surprised if Timmins found an apt goaltending prospect, along with a brute or two to outmuscle rambunctious mesomorphs in black and yellow. In particular, I'd like to see the Habs add a nose job specialist,

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If there is a goalie to take a chance on to help depth, it's Micheal Houser. This guy has done nothing but win and has earned a shot at an AHL job. Not to mention all he would cost is cash, and at worst, busts as an ECHL backup or could become a solid backup in the NHL. I mean, we do have a few goaltender positions available

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I have confidence Delmas gonna be quite good - good enough to become a NHL backup, at least.

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I really wanted Subban (@draft)
Can't believe he is in Boston

Probably we will draft one next year, or sign some undrafted.
We will sign Price long term so i wont worry much on our depth (no arbitration plz!!)

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Maybe Lagace or Marcoux will show something in camp, but it's sort of hard to hope for more from them than the Mayer/Delmas level. Anyway, I think we do need to get our AHL starter in place, foremost. A viable #3 guy who has been around and could step up in the case of injury to Budaj or (heaven forbid) Price. Delmas is probably serviceable behind that guy as the AHL backup, for now.

But we do also need to start getting the next wave going for real. 18-year olds with a couple more junior years left, or guys going off on longer USHL/NCAA odysseys would have been good. Hopefully Price is good for at least 7-10 more years (ideally even longer), but that's also about the window it sometimes takes to bring another goalie along, so now is the time to start. And since most never pan out, you have to have multiple assets in the game. We've got nothing atm.

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Haha our goalie depth is pathetic. It went from Price, Danis, Halak and I believe Desjardins to Price and Robert Mayer.

On that note, I'd offer Desjardins a 2-3 year contract and have him replace Budaj in a year. We should have never got rid of him.
I'm sure we can do a lot better than Desjardins.

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There were more compelling needs to address in the 2012 draft, namely, talent up front. In 2013 the Habs will have three picks in the second round and can afford to dabble. I wouldn't be surprised if Timmins found an apt goaltending prospect, along with a brute or two to outmuscle rambunctious mesomorphs in black and yellow. In particular, I'd like to see the Habs add a nose job specialist,
I read somewhere that the only position that Timmins and his staff wanted to address at the draft was a goalie but he said something along the lines of it didn't work out. So it sounds like they know they need to do something about our poor prospect depth in nets so hopefully they do something next year.

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I have confidence Delmas gonna be quite good - good enough to become a NHL backup, at least.
Perhaps, he has looked good in the few AHL games he's played but until we see how he does in a full season, it's anyones guess as to what he can do in the NHL. He's got to be better then Mayer though.

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I'm sure we can do a lot better than Desjardins.
I don't know about a lot better but I think Desjardins would be a huge upgrade on Mayer so as a Hamilton fan I'd be very happy if that's how it played out.

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Bergevin talked about not having any depth in goal after Price, they didn't draft one this year but he is aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if we acquired one via a trade this year or draft one next year since we will have more picks

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Bergevin talked about not having any depth in goal after Price, they didn't draft one this year but he is aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if we acquired one via a trade this year or draft one next year since we will have more picks
Tampa now has Lindback, Garon as their starters and Tokarski and Janus in their depth. Wouldn't surprise me if we traded for one of Tokarski, or Janus.

Aaron Dell will probably be signed...Next year. We might sign one of the goalies attending this up coming camp if the team feels they're good enough.

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I'm sure we can do a lot better than Desjardins.
How?

Desjardins is the best goalie in the AHL. His NHL experience is slim, but that's also good as well. All he needs is a chance.

For an AHL #1, it doesn't get any better.

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I read somewhere that the only position that Timmins and his staff wanted to address at the draft was a goalie but he said something along the lines of it didn't work out. So it sounds like they know they need to do something about our poor prospect depth in nets so hopefully they do something next year.
That's a good response. It would be hard not to acknowledge that the team needs to address the organizational goaltending depth. And at exactly the same time, when you look at how the draft turned out, the players who were available to us at #33, 51, 64... it's pretty hard to argue against what we did instead.

I don't think it's necessarily hard to find a bunch of generic goaltending prospects, guys who may or may not pan out, like we did in the past with Mayer and Delmas, like we could do at present with Marcoux, Lagace, or Dell. And if that's all you're aiming for, might as well get them for free instead of using up later draft picks. (Assuming you don't have a "hidden gem" goalie you see available in the later rounds).

But what we might lack atm is also a "top prospect" type of goalie. Subban, Vasilievski, and Dansk all went before our 2nd round pick, and then it was a shock to see Collberg available as well, so getting the top prospect type was just not in the cards for this year. We've got more picks again next year too. And presumably won't be picking #3 in the first round either.

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How?

Desjardins is the best goalie in the AHL. His NHL experience is slim, but that's also good as well. All he needs is a chance.

For an AHL #1, it doesn't get any better.
Desjardins and Yann Danis are both UFA... they aren't going to get handed an NHL contract by anybody, I don't think, and I doubt they have any illusions anymore about longer term designs on #1 jobs (i.e. they won't be balked at seeing Price up at the top of our heap). We've got one of the best #3 gigs around. No stud young prospect is going to push them for it. And we don't have a backup under contract for next year. I hope we go hard after one of these guys.

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Desjardins would be the best choice...

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The Sharks didn't qualify Tyson Sexsmith, meaning he'd become a FA by July 1st. I think Bergy should try to get him signed.

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Despite his fantastic name, he's not that good. Sure he's better than Mayer but that's not much.

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That's a good response. It would be hard not to acknowledge that the team needs to address the organizational goaltending depth. And at exactly the same time, when you look at how the draft turned out, the players who were available to us at #33, 51, 64... it's pretty hard to argue against what we did instead.

I don't think it's necessarily hard to find a bunch of generic goaltending prospects, guys who may or may not pan out, like we did in the past with Mayer and Delmas, like we could do at present with Marcoux, Lagace, or Dell. And if that's all you're aiming for, might as well get them for free instead of using up later draft picks. (Assuming you don't have a "hidden gem" goalie you see available in the later rounds).

But what we might lack atm is also a "top prospect" type of goalie. Subban, Vasilievski, and Dansk all went before our 2nd round pick, and then it was a shock to see Collberg available as well, so getting the top prospect type was just not in the cards for this year. We've got more picks again next year too. And presumably won't be picking #3 in the first round either.
I was all for them drafting a goalie this year but with better options on the table I have no problem passing as I'd really like to see us go the college FA route. I see a lot of NCAA hockey and I know that there are several FA's that weren't Seniors this year, that were impressive so depending on if any turn pro this summer or not (the later it gets the less likely NCAA kids will turn pro since it puts their current team in a bad spot as it could be hard to replace them on short notice)

So if we draft a highly rated goalie next year great, but I still hope either way we look to the FA market next summer as I assume a number of the NCAA kids that didn't turn pro this summer will turn pro next summer. For now they could just get a stop gap #3 and then focus on getting a couple goalie prospects next summer.

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Bergevin talked about not having any depth in goal after Price, they didn't draft one this year but he is aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if we acquired one via a trade this year or draft one next year since we will have more picks

Thre is many available on the UFA market with backup potential.

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