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06-26-2012, 12:49 PM
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That's been my nickname for years..."Cristoval" can back off.

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06-26-2012, 12:50 PM
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That's been my nickname for years..."Cristoval" can back off.
You want all the 2012 picks' names don't you.

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06-26-2012, 12:55 PM
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Leslie seems VERY impressed with Nieves. I am glad he got to go to this before attending college. Great opportunity for both him and the organization to get to know eachother before he goes into the black hole that is NCAA hockey (in terms of communication and signing of the player).

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06-26-2012, 04:01 PM
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I only saw Fasth in the WJC last year, and while he was fast it was much more in the mold of Gaborik (Rangers Gaborik that is) then Hagelin or Kreider. Very shifty and efficient, but he won't blow you away out there.

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06-26-2012, 04:09 PM
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Yeah, every person who has seen Fasth play describes him like Gabby- great skater who can turn on the jets when the need arises but is better at maneuvering and tricking people with his speed.

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06-26-2012, 08:03 PM
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http://video.rangers.nhl.com/videoce...=765&id=182949

Nice goal by Andersson at 30 seconds

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06-26-2012, 08:18 PM
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Leslie seems VERY impressed with Nieves. I am glad he got to go to this before attending college. Great opportunity for both him and the organization to get to know eachother before he goes into the black hole that is NCAA hockey (in terms of communication and signing of the player).
NCAA takes no backseat to the CHL. In terms of signing players, competition, coverage, player development.

I understand some players chose not to sign with their clubs. That has nothing to do with the NCAA.

Players and teams can talk with each other. The players just can't accept charity or money.

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06-26-2012, 08:27 PM
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NCAA takes no backseat to the CHL. In terms of signing players, competition, coverage, player development.

I understand some players chose not to sign with their clubs. That has nothing to do with the NCAA.

Players and teams can talk with each other. The players just can't accept charity or money.
He's talking about the team being able to speak to the player. The NCAA is incredibly strict regarding professional teams and agents when it comes to dealing with a player's eligibility to remain an "amateur" player. Once a player loses the eligibility, he/she can no longer play in the NCAA.

As an example, NCAA players can't have agents without losing his or her amateur status. They can, however, how have agents act as "advisers". The NCAA is a huge pain in the ass. I took a class last semester that dealt with law for sports agents, and believe me when I say that the NCAA has a ton of rules in place that make it difficult for a player to interact with agents or teams.

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06-26-2012, 08:36 PM
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He's talking about the team being able to speak to the player. The NCAA is incredibly strict regarding professional teams and agents when it comes to dealing with a player's eligibility to remain an "amateur" player. Once a player loses the eligibility, he/she can no longer play in the NCAA.

As an example, NCAA players can't have agents without losing his or her amateur status. They can, however, how have agents act as "advisers". The NCAA is a huge pain in the ass. I took a class last semester that dealt with law for sports agents, and believe me when I say that the NCAA has a ton of rules in place that make it difficult for a player to interact with agents or teams.
Can you explain why it is this way if you can? It always bugged me why it is so important to the NCAA for a player to keep a so called "amateur" status. What's in it for them?

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06-26-2012, 08:37 PM
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They can still communicate. He's at prospects camp. Will be next summer.

Hagelin will be in communication with him. He already had been after Boo was drafted.

Kreider skated with the team in the summer. He hung out with the team in Boston when the Rangers were up there during the season.

The players just can't accept money, travel, housing, equipment, anything.

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06-26-2012, 08:50 PM
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Can you explain why it is this way if you can? It always bugged me why it is so important to the NCAA for a player to keep a so called "amateur" status. What's in it for them?
It all comes down to money. The NCAA essentially has a monopoly on the development of NFL and NBA players. Fans fill up football stadiums and basketball arenas to see the next big thing playing against good competition without having to give players a dime. Think about all the ticket sales, food and beverage, apparel, etc. All that money goes to the schools and the NCAA. Some teams actually cost their schools more money than they make from sales, but admissions from kids that come to "be a part of the team" more than make up for that.

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06-26-2012, 09:01 PM
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I only saw Fasth in the WJC last year, and while he was fast it was much more in the mold of Gaborik (Rangers Gaborik that is) then Hagelin or Kreider. Very shifty and efficient, but he won't blow you away out there.
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Yeah, every person who has seen Fasth play describes him like Gabby- great skater who can turn on the jets when the need arises but is better at maneuvering and tricking people with his speed.
Gaborik stinks at stick-handling and protecting the puck though... Does Fasth?

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06-26-2012, 09:34 PM
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Nice goal by Andersson at 30 seconds
that attempt second attempt by thomas

i feel almost like sather is drafting all these big kids to sit on lines with the small guys and baby sit

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06-26-2012, 09:35 PM
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Gaborik stinks at stick-handling and protecting the puck though... Does Fasth?
Well, today, Leslie said:
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Fast is amazing protecting the puck.
No word about his stick-handling, unfortunately.





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Nieves has good stick work.





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06-26-2012, 09:52 PM
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I got retweeted today by one @A_Bathgate on Twitter today.

If the Bathgate at NYR camp, that's awesome...if not? I'll take the RT

Judging by his lack of followers, I'd say that it's just some random dude named Andy Bathgate. I can't tell from the picture to be honest

EDIT - Never mind. Browsed his pictures, if that's the Bathgate at Rangers camp...well, he better change his lifestyle ha ha

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06-26-2012, 09:57 PM
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that attempt second attempt by thomas

i feel almost like sather is drafting all these big kids to sit on lines with the small guys and baby sit
Pretty sure that was McColgan.

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06-26-2012, 10:33 PM
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It all comes down to money. The NCAA essentially has a monopoly on the development of NFL and NBA players.
This is why future NCAA hockey players can have "advisors" (essentially unpaid agents) and retain their eligibility. The hockey players have other development options i.e. the CHL, other junior leagues, Europe etc.
Football and Basketball players, except in rare cases (think LeBron), have no development alternative so the NCAA feels they can put the screws to them regarding agents and such.

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06-26-2012, 11:40 PM
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Don't think LeBron think Euros or Brandon Jennings since the age of the draft is 19.

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06-26-2012, 11:45 PM
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Pretty sure that was McColgan.
around 2:10. 99% sure it says thomas on his shirt, but my eyes are awful lol. guess it isn't a second attempt so much as a recovery of the first.

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06-27-2012, 12:10 AM
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Nice goal by Andersson at 30 seconds
Yep. Disappointed they didn't show Nieves's goal which, according to the tweets of the reporters in attendance, was a highlight reel affair.

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06-27-2012, 01:09 AM
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around 2:10. 99% sure it says thomas on his shirt, but my eyes are awful lol. guess it isn't a second attempt so much as a recovery of the first.
Actually on second viewing I think you might be right.

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06-27-2012, 02:20 AM
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Nice goal by Andersson at 30 seconds
i think he might've scored on his own goalie

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06-27-2012, 03:27 AM
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Gaborik stinks at stick-handling and protecting the puck though... Does Fasth?
I don't remember honestly, I was solely comparing their skating. Fasth didn't dart up and down the ice like Hagelin does, or turn on the jets and leave everyone in the dust like Kreider, he was just tough to handle in close corners when he had the puck because he could accelerate quick and his skating allowed him to maneuver very efficiently.

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06-27-2012, 09:13 AM
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Nice goal by Andersson at 30 seconds
That was a nice play, good skating and balance jumping into the play.

Lindberg looked good out there too.

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06-27-2012, 09:18 AM
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