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06-27-2012, 01:38 PM
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New York Rangers - Toronto Maple Leafs

So, I was thinking (nice, huh?) that 'cause Toronto is in need of a top 6 forward, Dubinsky would be a perfect player to target, a Burke-like player.

My suggestion is:


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MacArthur, 2nd and Gunnarsson

Not sure, if Rangers would need Gunnarsson, but I think that's a fair deal. MacArthur would IMO fit Rangers top-6, who can play a bottom 6 role too, if needed. A good playmaking type of a player, who can put up ~60 points, maybe 70 points if he hits a career year, but I think it's a reach.

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06-27-2012, 01:39 PM
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This same proposal keeps popping up every couple of weeks.

I'd rather keep Dubinsky.

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See no point for the Leafs.

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This same proposal keeps popping up every couple of weeks.

I'd rather keep Dubinsky.
Oh, sorry. Didn't know that Just thought it would be a nice deal for both clubs.

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This is refreshing. Usually my fellow Rangers fans are the ones inflating Dubi's value. I like Dubi a lot more than most NYR fans and I would do this in a heartbeat.

With that being said, I have no clue why Toronto would offer more than MacArthur/2nd or Gunnarson/2nd, let alone Gunnarson, MacArthur AND a 2nd unless the combo is to alleve some cap strain. In that case, the 2nd is not needed.

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Holy overpayment Batman.

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Take out Gunnarsson and I'd be happy with that.

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I like Dubi, but hate his contract. Pass.
Also I'm not so sure we need a top 6 forward anymore. In addition to Kessel, Lupul and JVR we have MacArthur who is coming of back to back 20 goal seasons and Kule who is 1 year removed from a 30 goal season.
We badly need a #1 center but Dubi isn't one of those.

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Value is there, but no reason (imo) to move Dubinsky in a sideways deal like this. I'd rather keep the homegrown player who we know can fit in our system, even if the value is there. Pass.

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How about Roy for Dubinsky?

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No from Toronto.

MacArthur is a similar type of guy to Dubinsky. The most I'd do is MacArthur + 3rd.

Like Dubinsky but don't love him to the extent of overpaying.

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How about Roy for Dubinsky?
Yes please.

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So who has more value right now? Stewart at 3 mil for the season than still RFA? Or Dubi at 3 years 4.2 mil? The most Leafs fans seemed to want to give up for Stewart was Gunnarson and a 3rd. Would Dubinsky really garner more than Stewart? I know I'm a blues fan, but it seems like Stewart has more upside...

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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

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- Derek Stepan

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Value is there, but no reason (imo) to move Dubinsky in a sideways deal like this. I'd rather keep the homegrown player who we know can fit in our system, even if the value is there. Pass.
Value is definitely not there.

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The issue here is whether Dubinsky is more valuable as part of a package than the return from Toronto.

I just think chances are Dubinsky goes with other players, prospects and picks for a big named forward. I only see the 2nd has helping out a potential deal in any major way.

As bad as last year was, Dubinsky is still worth quite a bit. Size, strength, heart, PP, PK and the fact that he plays wing but also takes faceoffs, make him worth something. I realize his contract is the killer, but a 20, 25 goal season would quickly change people's minds.

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I like Dubi, but hate his contract. Pass.
Also I'm not so sure we need a top 6 forward anymore. In addition to Kessel, Lupul and JVR we have MacArthur who is coming of back to back 20 goal seasons and Kule who is 1 year removed from a 30 goal season.
We badly need a #1 center but Dubi isn't one of those.
Dubinsky replaces Grabovski going forwards on the second line. Grabo becomes part of our tradebait for a 1C.

JVR - Dubinsky - Kulemin makes me wet.

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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan
I'm thinking that Rangers would laugh at us, if you'd suggest that to them. But I like it.

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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan
...and the Leafs would be adding Rielly and Finn. You know, just for kicks.

Girardi or Stepan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gunnarson.

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I'm thinking that Rangers would laugh at us, if you'd suggest that to them. But I like it.
Correct, sir! LOL.

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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan
It is not even 3PM in the East. How many hours have you been drinking?

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No thanks. Gunnarrson is uselss for the Rangers and it's not worth trading Dubinsky, a 2-way beast for MacArthur.

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So who has more value right now? Stewart at 3 mil for the season than still RFA? Or Dubi at 3 years 4.2 mil? The most Leafs fans seemed to want to give up for Stewart was Gunnarson and a 3rd. Would Dubinsky really garner more than Stewart? I know I'm a blues fan, but it seems like Stewart has more upside...
I think Stewie has more upside but Dubi is a more effective player.
When Stewart isnt at the top of his game he doesn't do much to help a team, when Dubi isn't at the top of his game he is still one of the best shot blockers and penalty killers in the league.

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It is not even 3PM in the East. How many hours have you been drinking?
Buddy, we're Leafs fans. We can outdrink anyone.

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No from Toronto.

MacArthur is a similar type of guy to Dubinsky. The most I'd do is MacArthur + 3rd.

Like Dubinsky but don't love him to the extent of overpaying.
This.

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No thanks. Gunnarrson is uselss for the Rangers and it's not worth trading Dubinsky, a 2-way beast for MacArthur.
Bergeron is a 2-way beast. Datsyuk is a 2-way beast. Kesler is a 2-way beast. Dubinsky is a solid 2nd/3rd liner depending on the day. In no way is his play "beastly" unless you're a Gatorade cooler.


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