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06-27-2012, 02:42 PM
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I hope they restrict increasing the cap in the new CBA.

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They should move to better markets or just stop whining.
The problem is there is only 10-14 teams that can compete with out a salary cap.


So are you suggesting that as much as 16 teams should move to better markets?

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06-27-2012, 02:48 PM
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They should move to better markets or just stop whining.
No, the fans of the smaller market teams need to understand how the cap works and stop whining.

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Add 10% for the summer cap. July 1-September 15. Then it will change. Lower than the 11-12 cap or status quo at $64.3M.

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Ducks are ****ed. Theyre probably going to have to pull a Florida. They just took like 14 million off the books in cap. What would the floor he in a cap like this?

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How much were teams spending when the first salary cap was introduced?

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No, the fans of the smaller market teams need to understand how the cap works and stop whining.
So what you are saying is fans of small market teams should switch teams for because their's will no longer be able to compete?

Because if it is, congrats you have the dumbest post of the day. And I have seen some hilarious proposals today.


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06-27-2012, 03:01 PM
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The problem is there is only 10-14 teams that can compete with out a salary cap.


So are you suggesting that as much as 16 teams should move to better markets?
There's no salary cap in baseball, and the luxury tax in basketball is a joke. Quite frankly, I believe teams that play in markets that are larger and more financially stable should be able to enjoy an advantage if they're willing to spend. A cap at 70M sounds just fine to me. It prevents a New York Yankee type spending team, but also allows teams to have advantage. What would be a suitable number to you? 39M again? 50M?

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Ducks are ****ed. Theyre probably going to have to pull a Florida. They just took like 14 million off the books in cap. What would the floor he in a cap like this?
The new CBA will probably have a much lower floor, otherwise the small markets are gonna be in trouble.

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I hope they restrict increasing the cap in the new CBA.
As the cap is specifically tied to the percentage of hockey-related revenue the players are entitled to, that won't be allowed.

My guess is that the relative large jump in the cap is based on the new NBC deal. I doubt that we'll see another large spike until Canadian national TV rights are renegotiated.

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So the cap is outrageously high and teams can circumvent with crazy contracts this summer still.

CBA time.

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You're wrong.

There is an upper limit and a cap floor, teams must stay within it. $70.2M is apparently the upper limit.
No...
There is a salary cap and a salary floor, not a "salary cap upper limit" and a "salary cap floor".

70.2M would be the salary cap.
54.2M would be the salary floor.

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As the cap is specifically tied to the percentage of hockey-related revenue the players are entitled to, that won't be allowed.

My guess is that the relative large jump in the cap is based on the new NBC deal. I doubt that we'll see another large spike until Canadian national TV rights are renegotiated.
Yeah, but what's the current % the players get from the revenue..57%? With the NBA and NFL dropping the players % close to 50%, you know the NHL is gonna want to get the players down closer to those levels as well.

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So what you are saying is fans of small market teams should switch teams for because their's will no longer be able to compete?

Because if it is, congrats you have the dumbest post of the day.
So what is the solution?Do we need to have a lockout ever 8-10 years because of the small market teams?

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06-27-2012, 03:08 PM
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So what is the solution?Do we need to have a lockout ever 8-10 years because of the small market teams?
Retraction.

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Ducks are ****ed. Theyre probably going to have to pull a Florida. They just took like 14 million off the books in cap. What would the floor he in a cap like this?
The floor would be 54.2. But it's been talked about publically for a couple of months now, if not longer, that the cap would be at that level this summer. And I suspect, teams have known even longer. So, this should come as no surprise to any team.

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How much were teams spending when the first salary cap was introduced?
Redwing's payroll was $77.85 million, which adjusted for inflation would be roughly $95 million today.

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Contraction.
Thanks for that. Good looking out.

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Why is this news to people? The numbers have been suggested for 2 months now. Some even speculated it would go as high as 72 mil.

But this is temporary. If owners get their way, players will only get about 50% rather than the 57% they get now. The cap may end up being lower than the 64.3 mil it was last year.

The problem with the cap is that the revenue growth of the league as a whole is outpacing the revenue growth of the smaller market teams. If NHL revenue grows by 3% every year and a team's revenue only grows by 2% every year, eventually they are going to lose money.

In addition to lowering the player percentage, the big market owners needs to put more money into revenue sharing. It's a formula that has worked for the NFL for a long time.

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Yeah, but what's the current % the players get from the revenue..57%? With the NBA and NFL dropping the players % close to 50%, you know the NHL is gonna want to get the players down closer to those levels as well.
Actually, does anybody know if the list of items that count as hockey-related revenue for the NHL is similar to the list of itmes counted in the NFL and NBA revenue totals that are used for determinining the players' shares in those leagues?

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Actually, does anybody know if the list of items that count as hockey-related revenue for the NHL is similar to the list of itmes counted in the NFL and NBA revenue totals that are used for determinining the players' shares in those leagues?
Not sure, but if you look at the CBA, I think it breaks down how the revenue is calculated.

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Why is this news to people? The numbers have been suggested for 2 months now. Some even speculated it would go as high as 72 mil.

But this is temporary. If owners get their way, players will only get about 50% rather than the 57% they get now. The cap may end up being lower than the 64.3 mil it was last year.

The problem with the cap is that the revenue growth of the league as a whole is outpacing the revenue growth of the smaller market teams. If NHL revenue grows by 3% every year and a team's revenue only grows by 2% every year, eventually they are going to lose money.

In addition to lowering the player percentage, the big market owners needs to put more money into revenue sharing. It's a formula that has worked for the NFL for a long time.
My guess is that if the new formula for the cap would result in a lower number, 2012-13 will still operate with a cap around the announced level and over the next couple of years, things would be adjust downwards. But in any event, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a transition period written into the new agreement.

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