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06-27-2012, 02:58 PM
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Buddy, we're Leafs fans. We can outdrink anyone.
And I've brought some Finnish mentality to that drinking group, cheers! I think i'll zip a few, and then see how my proposal looks...

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06-27-2012, 03:01 PM
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...and the Leafs would be adding Rielly and Finn. You know, just for kicks.

Girardi or Stepan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gunnarson.



Correct, sir! LOL.
Never said it would have to be a straight up trade, but that's the kind of return I would be looking for if Gunnarsson was going to Rags cuz his value to us is worth so much more than around the entire league.

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06-27-2012, 03:05 PM
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Never said it would have to be a straight up trade, but that's the kind of return I would be looking for if Gunnarsson was going to Rags cuz his value to us is worth so much more than around the entire league.
You never said it wasn't a straight up trade (poor grammar intended for even poorer humor there... double negatives FTW!)

That's the same logic that Scott Howson is using with the Rick Nash saga. It doesn't fly in either case.

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It is not even 3PM in the East. How many hours have you been drinking?
Sorry to say, but I don't drink(wine, alcohol, beer etc.) because of religious reasons.

Though, the correct drink u should be referring to is kool-aid.

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06-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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Sorry to say, but I don't drink(wine, alcohol, beer etc.) because of religious reasons.

Though, the correct drink u should be referring to is kool-aid.
That's good.

Well done.

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06-27-2012, 03:42 PM
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So, I was thinking (nice, huh?) that 'cause Toronto is in need of a top 6 forward, Dubinsky would be a perfect player to target, a Burke-like player.

My suggestion is:


Dubinsky


MacArthur, 2nd and Gunnarsson

Not sure, if Rangers would need Gunnarsson, but I think that's a fair deal. MacArthur would IMO fit Rangers top-6, who can play a bottom 6 role too, if needed. A good playmaking type of a player, who can put up ~60 points, maybe 70 points if he hits a career year, but I think it's a reach.

Thoughts? Flamings? Anything?
Holy mother of overpay.

Beyond the fact that Dubi would be an even more grossly overpaid third line winger on the Leafs than Mac is lined up to be, we are also including a 2nd and Gunnar?

This doesn't fit any needs for us AT ALL

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06-27-2012, 04:46 PM
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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan
The Rangers wouldn't give those guys up in a package for Nash but they would in deal for Gunnarson? Come on.

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06-27-2012, 05:04 PM
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The Rangers wouldn't give those guys up in a package for Nash but they would in deal for Gunnarson? Come on.
We'll throw in Komisarek as well. Is that better?

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06-27-2012, 05:11 PM
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We'll throw in Komisarek as well. Is that better?
Only if we can include Kreider.

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06-27-2012, 06:03 PM
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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan

you can't afford Stepan or Girardi. It starts and ends with Kessel.

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06-27-2012, 06:15 PM
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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan
You really think Gunnar has any value that would make him the centerpiece of a Stepan trade? Wow, it amazes me how much Leafs fans value Gunnar. Guy is a 5/6 D man, thats all he'll ever be.

If you trade Gunnar and a pick for Dubinksy, or Gunnar for some bottom 6 FWD plus a later pick you should be happy.

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06-27-2012, 06:49 PM
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Oh, sorry. Didn't know that Just thought it would be a nice deal for both clubs.
lol its all good

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06-27-2012, 06:51 PM
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06-27-2012, 06:53 PM
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I think Stewie has more upside but Dubi is a more effective player.
When Stewart isnt at the top of his game he doesn't do much to help a team, when Dubi isn't at the top of his game he is still one of the best shot blockers and penalty killers in the league.
This.

People forget how valuable Dubinsky is when he isn't at the top of his game offensively. Still one of the better penalty killers and shot blockers in the league and plays a very good (albeit not Selke caliber) gritty, defensive game.

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We'll throw in Komisarek as well. Is that better?
Ok fine, Rondell, I'll bend and throw in Lundqvist.

On the condition that you accept Condoleeza Rice to the black delegation for Eminem.

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06-27-2012, 07:08 PM
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No chance Gunnarsson leaves, and especially not for Dubinsky.

But just for kicks, if I was dealing Gunnarsson to the Rangers, I had want either one of the following thing in return:

- An upgrade on D( someone that can replace him immediately in a reliable situation on the top-pairing with Phaneuf), Girardi would be that guy,

or

- Derek Stepan
Holy cow! Is this a joke? Please tell me this is a cruel joke. Girardi, who just finished 6th in Norris voting in is one of the best shutdown defenseman in the league would certainly command more than your immensely overated defenseman. Gunarsson would likely be the #5 dman in NY behind Girardi, Staal, McDonagh, Del Zotto.

And hell no to moving Stepan for Gunarrson. Step is a 22 year old up and coming two way center who just had 51 points this year playing consistant 2nd line minutes. He is going nowhere unless there is a significant upgrade involved.

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06-27-2012, 07:44 PM
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So, I was thinking (nice, huh?) that 'cause Toronto is in need of a top 6 forward, Dubinsky would be a perfect player to target, a Burke-like player.

My suggestion is:


Dubinsky


MacArthur, 2nd and Gunnarsson

Not sure, if Rangers would need Gunnarsson, but I think that's a fair deal. MacArthur would IMO fit Rangers top-6, who can play a bottom 6 role too, if needed. A good playmaking type of a player, who can put up ~60 points, maybe 70 points if he hits a career year, but I think it's a reach.

Thoughts? Flamings? Anything?
way too much, Gunnarsson was one of the Leafs better dmen last season.

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06-27-2012, 07:50 PM
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Holy cow! Is this a joke? Please tell me this is a cruel joke. Girardi, who just finished 6th in Norris voting in is one of the best shutdown defenseman in the league would certainly command more than your immensely overated defenseman. Gunarsson would likely be the #5 dman in NY behind Girardi, Staal, McDonagh, Del Zotto.

And hell no to moving Stepan for Gunarrson. Step is a 22 year old up and coming two way center who just had 51 points this year playing consistant 2nd line minutes. He is going nowhere unless there is a significant upgrade involved.
I think his point was that Gunnarsson is a core piece to the Leafs D and he isn't going anywhere short of an overpayment ie Girardi or Stepan.

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06-27-2012, 07:59 PM
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I think his point was that Gunnarsson is a core piece to the Leafs D and he isn't going anywhere short of an overpayment ie Girardi or Stepan.
That's not an overpayment... Stepan or Girardi for Gunnarsson is and would be the worst trade in modern history. If that trade happened I would literally do this.

1: Stop watch hockey.
2: Go over to New York and kill Glen Sather.
3: Go to Sather's grave and destroy it.
4: Murder anyone smoking cigars.
5: Kill myself.


That's how ******* AWFUL that counteroffer was.

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06-27-2012, 08:07 PM
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I feel like Gunnarson doesn't have a lot of value around the league... I don't no why. I don't want to trade him at all. The guy has been a rock for us the last 2 years and has seriously solidified him self as a legit # 3 defensmen. Phaneuf, Gardiner and Liles are better but they have bad games, Gunnarson is ALWAYS on his game. The guy plays 20 minutes a night and is never caught out of position. I love the guy.

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06-27-2012, 08:49 PM
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That's not an overpayment... Stepan or Girardi for Gunnarsson is and would be the worst trade in modern history. If that trade happened I would literally do this.

1: Stop watch hockey.
2: Go over to New York and kill Glen Sather.
3: Go to Sather's grave and destroy it.
4: Murder anyone smoking cigars.
5: Kill myself.


That's how ******* AWFUL that counteroffer was.
wow aren't you special!!!

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Buddy, we're Leafs fans. We can outdrink anyone.
Come to Madison, learn how to drink.

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Mac, Gunnarsson, 2nd = Ryder, Halak, 2nd, that Leafs package is offered for almost every player in the league I swear.

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Amen brother....amen.

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That's not an overpayment... Stepan or Girardi for Gunnarsson is and would be the worst trade in modern history. If that trade happened I would literally do this.

1: Stop watch hockey.
2: Go over to New York and kill Glen Sather.
3: Go to Sather's grave and destroy it.
4: Murder anyone smoking cigars.
5: Kill myself.


That's how ******* AWFUL that counteroffer was.
You need to settle down. You have no idea who that poster is. He could be a 12 year old who has a Gunnarsson poster in his bedroom. Everybody and their mother knows that Stepan / Girardi >>>>>>>>>> Gunnarsson.

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