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06-27-2012, 03:05 PM
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what the hell kind of farm does he have in Phoenix? A cactus farm?
LOL, I actually think he has a ranch (with horses).

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06-27-2012, 03:12 PM
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Why would you tie up 14 to 16 million cap space in Two Defenders ?
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06-27-2012, 03:19 PM
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I'm not sold on Parise he looks mentally weak first off.
Mentally weak how? He's a natural leader, a superstar type talent who works as hard as a 3rd-4th line grinder. He has the skill and the work ethic and passion for the game, definitely a guy who you want in your room and he wouldn't have to wear a letter in LA, but still be a leader like Richards has been.

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06-27-2012, 03:21 PM
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what the hell kind of farm does he have in Phoenix? A cactus farm?
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06-27-2012, 03:37 PM
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$5.25M per year for 5 years for Dennis Wideman. Let the overpayment begin.
Wow. He even gave him enough years that if he gets fired tomorrow and someone else starts righting the ship, that person will still be weighed down during the earliest possible time they could be successful - five years from now.

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06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
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Id take doan in a heart beat

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06-27-2012, 04:22 PM
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Worked for the '07 _ucks
Those two were HOFers, Wideman and Bouwmeester are average at best.

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06-27-2012, 04:44 PM
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Too bad you can't grow a Cup.
This deserved more play.

Doan was so disappointed to find this to be true, even with his gift from the Sumerians.

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06-27-2012, 05:15 PM
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As much as I dislike Doan after the WCFs, it would be a shame if he didnt finish up his career with the Coyotes. I get the feeling he will give the Coyotes a chance to match any offers or at least come close.

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06-27-2012, 05:25 PM
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What a mess up in Calgary. I'm glad I'm not a fan of that team. They are in for some hard times.

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06-27-2012, 05:31 PM
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What a mess up in Calgary. I'm glad I'm not a fan of that team. They are in for some hard times.
I look at all the Canadian teams and I don't think that there is one GM up there that has a plan with the possible exception of Murray in Ottawa.

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06-27-2012, 05:35 PM
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CAL still in re-build denial. They should be selling when their older assets (Iginla, Bouwmeester, Kuprusoff) while they still have value.
The sad thing about the Kings winning the Cup as an 8 seed is that it's going to bolster the "Just make the playoffs and anything can happen" mentality that was already prevalent throughout the league and the media.

There have already been a lot of pundits in Canada pointing to the Kings as evidence that just barely squeaking into the post-season is a viable strategy. Never mind that LA was a contender on paper and just failed to perform for most of the season; no, this Cup run is proof positive that no one needs to rebuild.

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06-27-2012, 05:57 PM
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Wideman got a full NMC as well, what a gong show up in Calgary

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06-27-2012, 05:59 PM
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What a mess up in Calgary. I'm glad I'm not a fan of that team. They are in for some hard times.
This obsession to try and win a cup with iggy will cost the team for years after he rides into the sunset

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06-27-2012, 06:02 PM
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what the hell kind of farm does he have in Phoenix? A cactus farm?
Sand. You just don't add water. Simple.

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06-27-2012, 06:09 PM
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WOW. That's just

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06-27-2012, 06:22 PM
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I look at all the Canadian teams and I don't think that there is one GM up there that has a plan with the possible exception of Murray in Ottawa.
Murray may or may not be on the right track, as well. He hit the lottery with Karlsson, and then went on to catch lightning in a bottle in 11/12 with decent play from Craig Anderson and enough offense from Spezza and Karlsson to actually make a difference.

That franchise is no closer to a Cup than Toronto, to be quite honest. They play run and gun pond hockey like the Caps circa 08-10 and they're incredibly soft. Karlsson wilted like a flower in the Rangers series when Tortorella had guys specifically and physically targeting him.

Gillis is the only GM up there running a competent franchise at the moment, but I really like what Montreal has done in the last few weeks. They've brought in a lot of good hockey minds and hit a home run at the draft. They'll be pretty damn competitive in only a few years if they stay the course.

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06-27-2012, 06:46 PM
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How about the other LW free agent almost no one is talking about, Alex Semin?

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06-27-2012, 06:58 PM
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How about the other LW free agent almost no one is talking about, Alex Semin?
He is the anti-Dean player.

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06-27-2012, 07:09 PM
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He is the anti-Dean player.
That was before the culture change and the current room, he was afraid to add a player like Semin, but I think it could work. A change of scenery can really do wonders for a player and the Kings have a great locker room and Semin would have his russian pal in Voynov. I don't think it's too far-fetched. Not expecting it, but a 1-2 year deal at a good rate wouldn't be so bad I think for how much of a goal scorer he's shown to be and he's defense is underrated, no he's not selke, but he's decent.

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06-27-2012, 07:17 PM
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I would love to see them pay for Schultz.

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06-27-2012, 07:18 PM
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Carter is our Semin now. We don't get Carter I could see us going after him but the need is t as great now so no need to take the risk with him

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06-27-2012, 07:20 PM
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Semin is one of those moody players who shows up when he wants to show up. Can't see Lombardi pursuing him. Parise maybe, Doan for sure, I would think they'd re-sign Penner before entertaining the thought of bringing in Semin.

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06-27-2012, 07:22 PM
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Not really the same situation
Sure it is. Your bringing in a player on the wrong side of his 30's, and just using Ziggy's example, paying him a large sum of money to play hockey for 3 years. In Smyth's case it was 18.75 million, in Doan's it would be 15.


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He served his role and did it well in the two years he was here.
He sucked each season here after December. And did his veteran leadership ring through when he demanded a trade because his icetime was going to be cut and his next salary affected? And then on top of it lied to the fans, and went to EDM and said how it was nice to be back in a hockey market. ya he was a real positive force.

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He was hardly a mistake or blunder
How can you honestly type that.

Did you enjoy the Stanley Cup run?
Did you enjoy the parade?

None of that happens if Smyth plays out the full three years like Lombardi intended when he originally made the trade. Anytime you make a trade that would have cost your team a championship that is a mistake, a blunder, whatever you want to call it. Trading for Smyth and then committing almost 20 million in valuable cap space for him over three years was a disaster. I'm happy Smyth's greed made it a two year disaster instead of a three year won and we were able to win the cup, but it was still a disaster.

Smyth is here, no Carter and certainly no Fraser. One guy was the glue guy on the 4th line, the other scored the biggest goal in team history.


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you have to understand that without Smyth here Brown and Kopi don't have the playoffs they had this year.
This is BS.

Just like Smyth a player who rarely crossed into the defensive zone supposedly made Kopitar into a two-way force.

How could a player who couldn't even make it up and down the ice at the end of the season influence the playoff runs of Brown and Kopitar, it's a load of trash. It would be like giving LaBarbera credit for Quick's development or saying Peter Harrold made Drew Doughty the player he is today. Make sense? Neither does your comment.

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Plus Smyth finished 4th in scoring both years he was here, even at 6.25m that's hardly a bad aquisition for a team that wasn't going to spending to the cap at that time...
$6.25 million for fourth in scoring and no shows after December every season isn't that bad?

Look, it's not even the two years I'm talking about. It was clearly the third year that made/would have made the Smyth deal one of the biggest blunders in team history. Because none of this magical run happens with him and his bloated cap hit and lack of production on the roster. That is why I am concerned with giving Doan a multi-year deal for $5 million. If he pulls a Smyth and sucks, or doesn't fit in for whatever reason, it handcuffs the Kings ability to make needed moves to improve the team.

They just had an epic run, keep the team together, reward Penner with a fair contract and give it another shot. Don't overpay for a guy on the wrong side of 35 who may or may not have issues with some of our core players.

The risk far outweighs the reward on this one. Just like it did on the Smyth deal.

Dean has said he learned from his blunders, I believe him and don't think he touches Doan unless its on a one year deal.

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