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06-27-2012, 08:03 PM
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118 - Nashville Predators chose Mikko Vainonen (D) (HIFK)
Vainonen will play for Kingston Frontenacs next year. Good move since Vainonen is going to be their #1 defenseman AINEC. 68 games (20+ minutes per game) is a lot more than he is going to get in Finland. Plus, his playing style is made for NA rinks.

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74 - Dallas Stars chose Esa Lindell (D) (Jokerit)

176 - St Louis Blues chose Petteri Lindbohm (D) (Jokerit)
I was pretty surprised that neither one wasn't drafted to CHL. Another year at Jr.A won't do much good and the men's team is looking to add 1-2 quality defensemen.

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06-28-2012, 02:03 AM
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I was pretty surprised that neither one wasn't drafted to CHL. Another year at Jr.A won't do much good and the men's team is looking to add 1-2 quality defensemen.
Kekäläinen has said that they are not going to add defensemen before the season. And even if they do, Lindell and Lindbohm would play men's games with Kiekko-Vantaa in Mestis.

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06-28-2012, 03:17 AM
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So Joonas Korpisalo and Mikko Vainonen will be going to the CHL next season

Vainonen & Henri Ikonen to Kingston Frontenacs

Korpisalo to Prince George Cougars

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06-29-2012, 10:05 AM
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Toni Kallela’s NHL upside might be a bit questionable just like with Miro Aaltonen and Robert Leino, but I wouldn’t call him an average skater. He was one of the top skaters in Jr.A this season, his speed coming down the wing and ability to change direction quickly made him unstoppable at times.
''Average'' was wrong word to put it, but these small European players need to have the ability to fly on the ice unless they have some exceptional qualities like Granlund with his hockey IQ and Pulkkinen with his slap shot and good overall offensive skills. But like we have seen with Pulkkinen, even that might not be enough make it to the show if your skating isn't absolutely top-notch.

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I don't buy that NS was the problem. There were/are much bigger issues. Focusing on wrong kind of things.

It's easy to slap Nuori Suomi just because it started about the same time than Finland stopped developing elite players.
It's not all NS's fault, but they definitely are/were big part of the problem. Small country like Finland just can't afford to waste any talented players because of this type system. NS is a great system if used properly, but it shouldn't have anything to do with competitive clubs who are aiming to produce something out of their youth systems.

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06-29-2012, 07:38 PM
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CHL Import Draft:

#5 Joonas Korpisalo (Prince George)
#6 Mikko Vainonen (Kingston)
‎#20 Eetu Laurikainen (Swift Current)
‎#45 Samu Markkula (Barrie)

Can you see all of them going to Canada next year?? Korpisalo and Vainonen, if I'm not wrong, will try CHL, but what about the JYP guys?

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06-30-2012, 06:14 AM
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Jokerit players drafted:

Korpisalo, Teräväinen, Lindell


Lindbohm

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07-01-2012, 03:31 PM
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Nashville made a nice addition to their prospect pool by picking Vainonen. He will play in the OHL next year, I think it´s a good move for him, he´ll get a lot of minutes on that Kingston team.

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07-02-2012, 01:36 AM
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Finns aren't drafted anymore because it's been almost a decade since SM-liiga has produced an impact player to NHL, thanks to Nuori Suomi. Not only did NS ruin almost 10 age groups of players, they weakened significantly next 5 age groups chances to get drafted. Thank god this matter has been handled and generally age groups are getting stronger every year. I think Vatanen's and Granlund's next season will be a bigger factor in next years draft for Finns than most people realize.
Althought NS has definately played some role in declining of top end talent it's not the biggest reason. Biggest reason is that coaches concentrated too much on tactics and forgot to improve individuals skills. Same thing happended in Sweden, but they realized that way earlier.

So the lesson in here is: dont teach "meidän peli" or other tactical crap for young players. Concentrate on individual skills.

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So the lesson in here is: dont teach "meidän peli" or other tactical crap for young players. Concentrate on individual skills.
It doesn't actually make much sense when you think about it. If these kids are to go pro, they'll likely have to accommodate to a number of coaches and equal number of differing game plans over their careers. So it'll be the same learning experience all the way through.

Sure, it may help 'em get the ropes after a transfer faster, and some basics should of course be in order. But to drill minutia into their heads considering large quantity of it will be out the window the minute they switch clubs... does truly makes one wonder why such a culture was allowed to develop in the first place.

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07-02-2012, 12:45 PM
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Althought NS has definately played some role in declining of top end talent it's not the biggest reason. Biggest reason is that coaches concentrated too much on tactics and forgot to improve individuals skills. Same thing happended in Sweden, but they realized that way earlier.

So the lesson in here is: dont teach "meidän peli" or other tactical crap for young players. Concentrate on individual skills.
Definitely agree about the tactics part. If you tie these young kids to tactics and gameplans too tightly, they'll never learn to play the game on their own and their ability to make their own decisions never develops to high enough level. There are a lot of junior coaches out there who are thinking more about their own career and winning worthless series and tournaments, than developing players as individuals. Of course at certain age the tactics and winning trophies become more important but player development should be the main goal at all ages in junior hockey.

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Does anyone else think that Joonas made a mistake by not signing with Florida and then not being drafted in this year's draft and now he's not got a NHL club?

But if he does perform really well, then any club could sign him which is a upside for him but it's risky


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Does anyone else think that Joonas made a mistake by not signing with Florida and then not being drafted in this year's draft and now he's not got a NHL club?
Everyone?

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