Reason why he scored so much ^. If he wasn't feeding PA the puck, or finishing PA's passes they keyed on Tavares so PA had it easy. Wouldn't take PA unless it was on a steal contract, which it won't be.
He also doesn't like Ryan Murray, he might not have a reason.
However, Parenteau is a good player and would be a good addition to most teams in the league.
67 points on a team almost as bad as us is impressive by anyone's standards.
He also doesn't like Ryan Murray, he might not have a reason.
However, Parenteau is a good player and would be a good addition to most teams in the league.
67 points on a team almost as bad as us is impressive by anyone's standards.
All my reasons have been solid about Murray, but that's not what this topic is about.
Reason why he scored so much ^. If he wasn't feeding PA the puck, or finishing PA's passes they keyed on Tavares so PA had it easy. Wouldn't take PA unless it was on a steal contract, which it won't be.
If there's one thing we should all understand as CBJ fans, putting the puck in the net has to count for something, whoever the setup guy is.
I just don't understand your line of reasoning at all. Certainly he had better opportunities because of Tavares, but he capitalized on his opportunities...something this team sorely lacks. This team, even as currently constructed, has C's that can set him up often enough for me.
If there's one thing we should all understand as CBJ fans, putting the puck in the net has to count for something, whoever the setup guy is.
I just don't understand your line of reasoning at all. Certainly he had better opportunities because of Tavares, but he capitalized on his opportunities...something this team sorely lacks. This team, even as currently constructed, has C's that can set him up often enough for me.
PA is a setup guy, always has been. He put up plenty of points in the AHL and has proven the naysayers wrong in the NHL. The problem is he's probably going to want a hefty raise, like Huselius contract money. If we could get him I would love to see him on a line with Atkinson and Umberger. I don't think he would mesh well with Brassard as they are both pass-first players.
I'd be happy with any one of:
1. Semin
2. Whitney
3. Parenteau
4. Jokinen
And preferably two of them. Semin was Washington's best forward after Hunter took over, and he showed willingness to backcheck and go into harder areas since. Semin has been on record saying how he wants to take a bigger role on a team and play in ALL situations if possible. He has the right attitude and has one of the deadliest shots in the league. I don't see why you wouldn't want that if the price is right.
Two un-tendered RFAs out there also, another concussion case Guillaime Latendresse wasn't tendered by the Wild, not sure if he fits but he's got plenty of talent. Also the Canucks decided not to tender Marc Andre Gragnani for some reason. I doubt we have the need for him, but if the price is right defensive depth couldn't hurt.
I quite like PA Parenteau, so I guess I'm just biased, but I want him.
Also have to go after Mr. Whitney, the guy is still going and he should have a homecoming in Columbus! Or I can dream.
I also think that Semin is a scoring presence we somewhat desperately need, and maybe we could steal another free agent away from Detroit this year.....
And I just think that Sullivan could add some secondary scoring.
And preferably two of them. Semin was Washington's best forward after Hunter took over, and he showed willingness to backcheck and go into harder areas since. Semin has been on record saying how he wants to take a bigger role on a team and play in ALL situations if possible. He has the right attitude and has one of the deadliest shots in the league. I don't see why you wouldn't want that if the price is right.
He also seemed frustrated that he never got to play with any real talent on the second line in Washington, so I'm not sure if he'd want to come here.
Still, if he's willing, I'd gladly take him.
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I'd be happy with any one of:
1. Semin
2. Whitney
3. Parenteau
4. Jokinen
And preferably two of them. Semin was Washington's best forward after Hunter took over, and he showed willingness to backcheck and go into harder areas since. Semin has been on record saying how he wants to take a bigger role on a team and play in ALL situations if possible. He has the right attitude and has one of the deadliest shots in the league. I don't see why you wouldn't want that if the price is right.
I think he was pretty vocal and upset after they were eliminated from the playoff's. I think he said something about being mad because he felt he should have played when they were short handed but didn't even get a chance to play during those time. Surprised that he would want to play on the p.k.
You think Semin is the type of person who would take money over a Cup and wouldn't care where he goes? If Howson offered him a big offer, would he sign with us even if we aren't contenders just yet? If the answer is yes....
Howson should trade for his rights asap. Fly him down to Columbus to take a tour of the city/arena. Then offer him a massive contract and tell him, "this offer might be off the table once UFA starts". Semin might see the money and be afraid of potentially losing out on the contract if he tests the market. Now I say, "might be off the table" because it's a bluff and hoping he signs before UFA. If he doesn't, I would still want him offer the same and hope he pulls a Wisniewski. Think about the offer but pass it up to test the market and quickly change his mind and sign the contract.
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I want Howson to get two top 6 forwards, and a legitimate back up goalie.
Atkinson-Brass-Parenteau
Mueller-Johan-XXX (Nash trade)
Prospal-Letestu-Umberger (not a bad 3rd scoring line)
Gillies-Mackenzie-Dorsett
Wiz-JJ
Tyutin-Nikitin
Murray/Savard-Moore/Methot (at least one will be traded, not murray)
Bob
Clemmensen
Mason
We need at least 2 forwards in the Nash deal, which I hope isn't for purely futures, nor does it have a defenseman included. Dubinsky, Stepan, forward prospect, 1st would come close for me. Feel free to rip me to shreds.
Edit: On second look, Two roster forwards in the Nash trade would make one of the UFA's somewhat unnecessary. 3 roster forwards total from the Nash trade and free agency is what I am expecting of Howson. I'm hoping, naiively, not to be disappointed with that.
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Reason: forgot d mac, thanks punkoholic
I want Howson to get two top 6 forwards, a 4th line center, and a legitimate back up goalie.
Without Nash trade- I really don't want to have to predict it..
Atkinson-Brass-Parenteau
Mueller-Johan-XXX (Nash trade)
Prospal-Letestu-Umberger (not a bad 3rd scoring line)
Gillies-Prust-Dorsett
Wiz-JJ
Tyutin-Nikitin
Murray/Savard-Moore/Methot (at least one will be traded, not murray)
Bob
Clemmensen
Mason
We need at least 2 forwards in the Nash deal, which I hope isn't for purely futures, nor does it have a defenseman included. Dubinsky, Stepan, rights to Prust, 1st would come close for me. Feel free to rip me to shreds.
I assume Mackenzie will be are 4th liner and Prust wants big money. Think he turned down 1.9 from the Rangers and wants 2.5ish I think. I would take him but not for that type of money.
I assume Mackenzie will be are 4th liner and Prust wants big money. Think he turned down 1.9 from the Rangers and wants 2.5ish I think. I would take him but not for that type of money.
Oh wow.
I totally forgot about Dmac. That is sad. Thank you, total brain fart right there.
I didn't vote for Semin and I doubt he'd come here or be sought here. Not that there is an issue with alleged head case enigmatic (tweeting?) Russian forwards in Columbus. For the kind of money he probably wants and the attempt to change the culture I just don't see it happening.
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Two un-tendered RFAs out there also, another concussion case Guillaime Latendresse wasn't tendered by the Wild, not sure if he fits but he's got plenty of talent. Also the Canucks decided not to tender Marc Andre Gragnani for some reason. I doubt we have the need for him, but if the price is right defensive depth couldn't hurt.
Guillaime Latendresse...
Guillaime Latendresse...
Guillaime Latendresse...
One of my favorite names in the league, I just like seeing it, posting it, saying it. Don't know if those are good enough reasons to sign him, but...
With a team that will be building around young talent for the foreseeable future, I say avoid a reputable underachiever like Semin at all costs. It would take bigger money and a longer term for us to bring him here also, with our reputation as a bottom feeder. Would we really want to shell out Nash-like money for that guy?
Parenteau is another case of a guy who will rake in big money because of one good year spent piggybacking on a star player's line. I wouldn't be against bringing him here if it were in the $2-$3 million/year range, but that's another guy that's going to ask for more, and a longer term, just to come play here.
I really think we're best fit building from youth. Why would we go out in the midst of a rebuild and sign middle-aged players with question marks? For my money, I say go out and sign a couple of quality veterans to show the kids how to be professionals, and maybe get a couple of cheaper guys with scoring upside (Mueller, Latendresse). I'd much rather pay a little more for guys who are going to help our youth movement, rather than overpay for a guy who may or may not score 30 goals, depending on his mood that particular season.
I don't really care who we target in FA. I don't really care who comes back in the Nash trade. Just so long as they have one thing; the will, the desire and the deep down gotta have it WILL TO COMPETE. If this team needs to find an identity then let it be that. We will compete. From the drop of the puck to the final horn, anything we get we will earn, anything they get they will have to pay for.
This is not going to be a skill hockey team, at least for a while. It's not going to be fancy and it's not going to be pretty, but by God it can be respected. I want every team in the league, when they see the Jackets, to think, man I really don't want to play them. Any point, every point needs to come the hard way.
There is hope, there are some good pieces, the team simply has to learn, first to want to and then how to win. That can't and won't be done by picks and prospects, there has to be that to be more, there has to be that group of vets that knows what it takes and is willing to, by word and example, to teach it, to preach it and to pass it on. If all you have is a group of kids then all they're going to learn is how to lose. Vinny, RJ, JJ, Wiz, Dorse. Find a few more like that.
Sure the CBJ will take some licks, but I think the fan base will put up with it that as long as there are more being dished out if you know what I mean.
As I said I think there are some pieces, now let's see if they can make a team out of them. The name on the front not the one on the back.
@BryanAustinMc Parenteau not going to happen. #CBJ are likely targeting lower-in-the lineup guys, 3rd liners.
I thought if it was anywhere we were stocked it was third and fourth liners-
Maybe he means other teams third liners, who are likely 2nd liners on the CBJ....
I sure hope they are counting on a decent "right now" return (and getting it) for Nash, otherwise, we may be begging Huselius to resign with us if he gets healthy.
@BryanAustinMc Parenteau not going to happen. #CBJ are likely targeting lower-in-the lineup guys, 3rd liners.
I thought if it was anywhere we were stocked it was third and fourth liners-
Some feel Umberger should be on the 3rd line but it seems like he will be on the 1st or 2nd line with Brassard and Atkinson so Howson would need to replace Umberger's 3rd line spot. Also, any chance he/Ricahrds has Brassard and Letestu as the number 1 and 2 centers and then go after McClement/Prust for the 3rd line? I feel Letestu should be the number 3 center.
Maybe he means other teams third liners, who are likely 2nd liners on the CBJ....
I sure hope they are counting on a decent "right now" return (and getting it) for Nash, otherwise, we may be begging Huselius to resign with us if he gets healthy.
I hope Letestu was just a fill in on the top line when he played their down the stretch. He played alright but this screams Malholtra on the top line all over again. Don't forget Prospal but I don't see him putting up similiar numbers to last year.
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I hope Letestu was just a fill in on the top line when he played their down the stretch. He played alright but this screams Malholtra on the top line all over again. Don't forget Prospal but I don't see him putting up similiar numbers to last year.
