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06-28-2012, 01:02 AM
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Peter Mueller

I know I'm probably going to get lit up for making a thread on an average free agent but I think if we don't sign any big names or Jagr he could be a nice fit, he was indeed hurt a lot but in limited time back last year he showed he still has talent, he's pretty damn young at 24 and can play wing or center, might be worth at least a one year deal maybe at 2 million......don't rip me apart please, thoughts?


Edit: also thought of Guillame Latendresse, he is kinda JVR like, also hurt a lot maybe could be had cheap, just, anger idea.

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I actually see a lot of teams being interested in him. He's a low risk/high reward kinda guy.

I'd love him on a cheap deal, but I could see him getting about $3m on the open market though.

Good player, potential to be a great fit. Not bad to see if we could get him if Parise goes elsewhere and the price is too high for Ryan.

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I actually see a lot of teams being interested in him. He's a low risk/high reward kinda guy.

I'd love him on a cheap deal, but I could see him getting about $3m on the open market though.

Good player, potential to be a great fit. Not bad to see if we could get him if Parise goes elsewhere and the price is too high for Ryan.
I was shocked the Avs didn't even qualify him

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I wouldnt give Mueller 3 million. That is just freakin crazy. No doubt he is a talented kid when hes healthy. I would given him a 1 million dollar deal. show that he can stay on the ice then talk to him about a longer deal.


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I wouldnt give Mueller 3 million. That is just fereakin crazy. No doubt he is a talented kid when hes healthy. I would given him a 1 million dollar deal. show that he can stay on the ice then talk to him about a longer deal.
Yeah I agree but I feel a lesser team would offer more tats why I think 2 mill is a decent number

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Yeah I agree but I feel a lesser team would offer more tats why I think 2 mill is a decent number
Also a guy like that is pretty far down on the lsit as far as what I want the Flyers to do to fix some of the flaws of this team. Not sure how much money will be left for him. i think he goes somewhere where they will be patient with him if he is still having issues. like Columbus. Or Florida.

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I wouldnt give Mueller 3 million. That is just freakin crazy. No doubt he is a talented kid when hes healthy. I would given him a 1 million dollar deal. show that he can stay on the ice then talk to him about a longer deal.
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Also a guy like that is pretty far down on the lsit as far as what I want the Flyers to do to fix some of the flaws of this team. Not sure how much money will be left for him. i think he goes somewhere where they will be patient with him if he is still having issues. like Columbus. Or Florida.
I think he will sign on the first day to be honest, many teams that rule themselves out of enbig names might go at him right away

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Other reclamation projects out there are Eric Fehr, Wojtek Wolski and Gilbert Brule.

I also have a suspicion that Homer might be tempted with Tootoo.

Kyle Wellood is good at faceoffs and MIGHT look good with his brother on the 4th line, but might not.

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Would love Mueller, think he is a great player... however, there are more pressing priorities, and overall doubt we sign him.

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I actually see a lot of teams being interested in him. He's a low risk/high reward kinda guy.

I'd love him on a cheap deal, but I could see him getting about $3m on the open market though.

Good player, potential to be a great fit. Not bad to see if we could get him if Parise goes elsewhere and the price is too high for Ryan.
Avs passed on a qualifying offer of 2 million, so they apparently don't think he'll get more than that. It was a big surprise to their fans--even a week ago, they were mocking anyone who suggested the team might let him walk.

Count me among those who think he's definately worth a one-year, $2 million contact. He's a huge injury risk, but if he's finally over the concussion issues, you're getting a very good, young, top-six winger on the cheap.

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Mueller would be tempting, but the concussion and subsequent post concussion syndrome issues are really scary. Obviously, anyone who signs him will need him to go through a series of baseline tests to ensure that he's fully healed up from the post concussion syndrome and that he's physically able to perform health wise.

I think 2 million is a little high for a player who has missed 132 games over the past two seasons. Same for Guillaume Latendresse. These guys who have been injury prone over the past couple of seasons may have to realize that they might not be going to any camps unless it's under a try out and then if they're well enough, I think you'll see a deal come down the line.

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Mueller would be tempting, but the concussion and subsequent post concussion syndrome issues are really scary. Obviously, anyone who signs him will need him to go through a series of baseline tests to ensure that he's fully healed up from the post concussion syndrome and that he's physically able to perform health wise.

I think 2 million is a little high for a player who has missed 132 games over the past two seasons. Same for Guillaume Latendresse. These guys who have been injury prone over the past couple of seasons may have to realize that they might not be going to any camps unless it's under a try out and then if they're well enough, I think you'll see a deal come down the line.
I think I'd rather throw $2 million at each of them than $4 million at Jagr.

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I'd be ok to sign Mueller if other guys aren't signing here. But Jiri Hudler would be my go-to guy if one of the big boppers doesn't want to sign here.

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Sure, for 1,5-2m.

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Other reclamation projects out there are Eric Fehr, Wojtek Wolski and Gilbert Brule.

I also have a suspicion that Homer might be tempted with Tootoo.

Kyle Wellood is good at faceoffs and MIGHT look good with his brother on the 4th line, but might not.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to sign K Wellwood so we have two brother pairings. Gotta catch 'em all.

I like Mueller as well as Wolski and Brule, but Brule is probably the highest risk in production with the biggest payoff if he can get it together. It could be worth looking into moving some players in a trade and filling holes with one of these players, if you're a risk taker that is.

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I think I'd rather throw $2 million at each of them than $4 million at Jagr.
I don't know about Latendrese, but Mueller is easily worth 2 million in this market. He probably would be fine with a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy. Still only 24 years old, you hope he recovers like Patrice Bergeron has, but you hedge your bets by going short term.

Mueller would be a tremendous winger for Couturier with a guy like Read on the other side. Tremendous talent for a 3rd line.

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I don't know about Latendrese, but Mueller is easily worth 2 million in this market. He probably would be fine with a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy. Still only 24 years old, you hope he recovers like Patrice Bergeron has, but you hedge your bets by going short term.

Mueller would be a tremendous winger for Couturier with a guy like Read on the other side. Tremendous talent for a 3rd line.
Aye, up to 2/2.5mil he's a bargin if fit, i think you offer him a deal and if he takes it you have another good winger if he doesn't no big deal. We're not in dire need of him but it wouldn't hurt having him.

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At this point I would sign him over Jagr then use that money to go after a bigger free agent, I know it's reported he doesn't want to pay here but Suter could be an option if we don't spend the extra on jags

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I'd give maybe 1M per season for Mueller.

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Nope.

I'd give maybe 1M per season for Mueller.
Why just a million

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Why just a million
BFC basically summed it up for me in a few posts up:


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Mueller would be tempting, but the concussion and subsequent post concussion syndrome issues are really scary. Obviously, anyone who signs him will need him to go through a series of baseline tests to ensure that he's fully healed up from the post concussion syndrome and that he's physically able to perform health wise.

I think 2 million is a little high for a player who has missed 132 games over the past two seasons. Same for Guillaume Latendresse. These guys who have been injury prone over the past couple of seasons may have to realize that they might not be going to any camps unless it's under a try out and then if they're well enough, I think you'll see a deal come down the line.

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BFC basically summed it up for me in a few posts up:
His talent is worth the risk

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Nope.

I'd give maybe 1M per season for Mueller.
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I wouldnt give Mueller 3 million. That is just freakin crazy. No doubt he is a talented kid when hes healthy. I would given him a 1 million dollar deal. show that he can stay on the ice then talk to him about a longer deal.
Then we won't get him. He is a low-risk option for many teams, bidding price will go up a bit. He might deserve ~1mil, but he will get 1.8 to 2.

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Then we won't get him. He is a low-risk option for many teams, bidding price will go up a bit. He might deserve ~1mil, but he will get 1.8 to 2.
and thats fine. I dont think hes a must sign anyway. to much risk for me throw out 2 million for the guy.

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and thats fine. I dont think hes a must sign anyway. to much risk for me throw out 2 million for the guy.
Medium risk but potential high reward!

I don't see why he is not worth 1.8M a year. We've been taking much higher risks on a regular basis.

I'd rather try him at 1.8M than resigning Jagr at 3.5+M or whatever he demands because there is also a risks bound to a 41year old with chronic groin issues.

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