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06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
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We haven't seen anyone get wacked for going under floor(yet)...
So in other words it's all up in the air and interpretations would be made on the fly if a team found itself in that situation ?

Typical NHL

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So can we go for Parise now?

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06-28-2012, 03:07 PM
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Will the habs internal cap still follow the real cap? Since the lockout it has never been a big question, but a ceiling that high...

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Look at parise signing 6 years 54 millions!

Gomez
in 2007-2008 - 7.3 millions - 50 millions = 14.6%
in 2012-2013 - 7.3 millions - 70 millions = 10.4%

he should earn 10.2 millions for the lulz

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06-28-2012, 03:12 PM
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Given that no labor agreement is yet in place for next season, the increased salary cap is probably just a carrot the owners are throwing to the players union.

Donald Fehr is one tough cookie who likes to win. Negotiations will likely not be easy and the final cap numbers could even go higher. One would think so given that one doesn't generally throw out their final offer in the first round of negotiation.

The cap might be so high that Gomez can be given a raise.

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06-28-2012, 03:36 PM
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Scott Gomez just got some value to those teams that'll struggle to reach the cap floor. Sweet.

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06-28-2012, 03:49 PM
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Was expected with the team moving Atlanta to Winnipeg.

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06-28-2012, 03:53 PM
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listen to Hall Gill. he told ya the problem....it was the SYSTEM.
Sending undersized forwards into corners expecting them to match Lucic for example, was dumb ,Gill even said it .
Martin wasn't playing to Gomez strengths.


Gomez resign for a cap hit of 3.5 -4 million, sign me up
Clearly this is a joke

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06-28-2012, 04:02 PM
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Scott Gomez just got some value to those teams that'll struggle to reach the cap floor. Sweet.
No

He has no value

These teams will do the Florida model from last year, overpay for random UFA's and profit.

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06-28-2012, 04:03 PM
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The salary cap is getting out of hand... so are the contracts.

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06-28-2012, 04:05 PM
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If the cap goes up, it's because revenues are up. Therefore, more money to every teams. If revenues were to go down, the cap would go down. Simple as that.

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06-28-2012, 04:19 PM
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If the cap goes up, it's because revenues are up. Therefore, more money to every teams. If revenues were to go down, the cap would go down. Simple as that.
Except not all teams are making money, and those who make money have to pay for the Phoenix of the league.

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06-28-2012, 04:20 PM
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Will the habs internal cap still follow the real cap? Since the lockout it has never been a big question, but a ceiling that high...
Habs are top 3 in revenue. They can spend to the cap and pay for shennigans off of it.

Basically, everything the Rangers can afford to do, so can the Habs.

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06-28-2012, 04:26 PM
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What happen if you can't reach the cap floor ? Are the penalities the same as going over it ?
There's no penalties either way. It's simply not allowed.

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06-28-2012, 04:32 PM
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listen to Hall Gill. he told ya the problem....it was the SYSTEM.
Sending undersized forwards into corners expecting them to match Lucic for example, was dumb ,Gill even said it .
Martin wasn't playing to Gomez strengths.


Gomez resign for a cap hit of 3.5 -4 million, sign me up
If Gomez didn't produce because he was undersized in Martin's system then you must expect Desharnais to score 150pts and Plekanec 100pts. Clearly we won't need Gomez then.

Gomez is a one trick pony, that is all. He has no shot, the system won't change that. He's weak, the system won't change that. He doesn't have the creativity to adapt his game like Desharnais&Plekanec and he never even tried. He's not the kind of player you build the team around so its pointless to put him on the first line with the best wingers and top powerplay time so he can barely reach 40 points.

You'd really resign him for 3.5m? Why not sign a Dominic Moore instead.. Or just keep what we have and let Eller&Galchenyuk develop.

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06-28-2012, 04:36 PM
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So what happens if on July 1st a team spends all the way to the cap but after the negotiations the cap goes down ? Would the new cap only take effect next year ?

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Will the habs internal cap still follow the real cap? Since the lockout it has never been a big question, but a ceiling that high...
I don't get why people feel concern for the owners.

If the cap is way high, it means the revenue is way high. Owners can handle it.

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06-28-2012, 04:53 PM
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I don't get why people feel concern for the owners.

If the cap is way high, it means the revenue is way high. Owners can handle it.
It's not a question of feeling concerned, it's a question of setting my own expectation. Everybody assume the habs are going to fill their cap like they always did since the lockout - I'm just saying it's not necessarily obvious they don't have their own internal cap that is lower than the maximum cap - like the vast majority of other teams.

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It's not a question of feeling concerned, it's a question of setting my own expectation. Everybody assume the habs are going to fill their cap like they always did since the lockout - I'm just saying it's not necessarily obvious they don't have their own internal cap that is lower than the maximum cap - like the vast majority of other teams.
The only way the cap is going up is if the owners are making more money.

The cap accounts for 57% of leaggue revenue, so every time the cap increases the owners make MORE money. That includes the Habs.

- Ticket prices are going up every year.
- US Dollar is going down every year.
- There's no longer any revenue sharing being pumped into Atlanta.

Geoff Molson smiles every time the cap goes up.

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The only way the cap is going up is if the owners are making more money.

The cap accounts for 57% of leaggue revenue, so every time the cap increases the owners make MORE money. That includes the Habs.

- Ticket prices are going up every year.
- US Dollar is going down every year.
- There's no longer any revenue sharing being pumped into Atlanta.

Geoff Molson smiles every time the cap goes up.

You should also add to your list: - New big contract with NBC.


People have a hard time to grasp this concept. It's a business, and usually succesful businesses expect growth year in, year out. So it was quite inevitable that they would chose a regulation/sharing system that would expand with the revenues themselves.

The cap will never go down without the salaries doing the same, or else the system itself becomes unbalanced.

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The only way the cap is going up is if the owners are making more money.
The owners AS A GROUP make more money, but the profit of individual owners depend obviously a lot of their own respective markets. There are a few rich teams out there, and many very poor ones. Only a fraction completely fill their cap every year - some are so poor they struggle to make the cap floor, and are in danger of moving because of financial problems.

Since the lockout, the habs have always clearly been in the camp of the "have", but how much is hard to tell. What if the most recent raise in revenues came from other markets but not with the habs? If it would happen, there's no reason to believe the habs could eternally spend their entire cap. I'm not saying that's what will happen this year, but with such an high cap, one has to keep that in mind.

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The owners AS A GROUP make more money, but the profit of individual owners depend obviously a lot of their own respective markets. There are a few rich teams out there, and many very poor ones. Only a fraction completely fill their cap every year - some are so poor they struggle to make the cap floor, and are in danger of moving because of financial problems.

Since the lockout, the habs have always clearly been in the camp of the "have", but how much is hard to tell. What if the most recent raise in revenues came from other markets but not with the habs? If it would happen, there's no reason to believe the habs could eternally spend their entire cap. I'm not saying that's what will happen this year, but with such an high cap, one has to keep that in mind.
If the Habs continue to sell out there's no worries man.

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The owners AS A GROUP make more money, but the profit of individual owners depend obviously a lot of their own respective markets. There are a few rich teams out there, and many very poor ones. Only a fraction completely fill their cap every year - some are so poor they struggle to make the cap floor, and are in danger of moving because of financial problems.

Since the lockout, the habs have always clearly been in the camp of the "have", but how much is hard to tell. What if the most recent raise in revenues came from other markets but not with the habs? If it would happen, there's no reason to believe the habs could eternally spend their entire cap. I'm not saying that's what will happen this year, but with such an high cap, one has to keep that in mind.
Did you read the arguments posted by myself and Ozymandias?

They all apply to the Habs.

If the Canadian dollar ever goes back down to $0.65 you can start worrying, but right now Geoff Molson is smiling all the way to the bank.

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Except not all teams are making money, and those who make money have to pay for the Phoenix of the league.
All team make enough money with the revenue sharing to easily reach the cap floor. That's my point, people saying Gomez got value now are completly wrong.

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The only way the cap is going up is if the owners are making more money.

The cap accounts for 57% of leaggue revenue, so every time the cap increases the owners make MORE money. That includes the Habs.

- Ticket prices are going up every year.
- US Dollar is going down every year.
- There's no longer any revenue sharing being pumped into Atlanta.

Geoff Molson smiles every time the cap goes up.
Canadian dollar is forecast to drop to 86 cents in 2013.....Goona be some air let out of NHL tires.



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The loonie will hit 86 cents US next year: Capital Economics



By John Shmuel, Financial Post June 26, 2012



TORONTO - Capital Economics is expecting the loonie to weaken further this year against the U.S. dollar, before falling to $0.86 US next year

Read more: http://www.canada.com/loonie+will+ce...#ixzz1z8EBbgZA


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