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06-28-2012, 10:56 PM
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Ummmmm, ever heard of Robin Lehner?
after him they have nothing. in other words can you say "putting all your eggs in one basket".

the kid is 20 and hasn't even been the #1 for binghamton yet. they project this coming season he will be. that still likely puts him out for 1-3 years until he's ready to be a #1 at the NHL level. why rush him? why pray he is the ONE?

DL just proved it and other org's (BOS last season) you build from the net out. in order to do this you have to have depth. OTT lacks depth in net.

as good as Lehner may turn out. if JB were to be traded to OTT, this situation and Lehner could turn into the next Kings/Bernier situation. say JB goes there and becomes their #1 for years, now OTT has a valuable asset in Lehner to move.

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06-28-2012, 11:06 PM
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Not to mention Ben Bishop.
Bishop again unproven with only a handful of NHL games. the guy is 25 and has less GP than JB. Bernier is two years younger with twice as many GP to date. their stats are fairly equal to this point.

i see the combo of Bishop and Lehner as 'the future' for OTT as very shaky. two guys that are very unproven at the NHL level.

JB would give them an added asset that provides depth now and in the long-term. not to mention what he adds from his experience with he and Quick working up to become one of the best 1-2 tandems in the NHL.

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06-28-2012, 11:45 PM
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I am selfish. I do not want to give up Bernier - I changed my mind. I like having two ass-kicking goalies.

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06-29-2012, 12:05 AM
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I am selfish. I do not want to give up Bernier - I changed my mind. I like having two ass-kicking goalies.
Although Bernier deserves the chance to be a #1 elsewhere because it won't be LA. Only problem is he's still unproven so it's hard to gauge his value and get a good return.

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06-29-2012, 12:15 AM
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Goalie prospects typically don't pull great returns but the Anders Lindback trade gave me hope Dean can get a pretty good return. And there's quite a few teams that would love to take that chance on a young, unproven, cheap, high potential goalie so hopefully Dean can drive the asking price up.

Either way, all the best to JB. I'm sure things didn't pan out the way he figured but I hope he establishes himself elsewhere and succeeds unless he's playing the Kings.

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06-29-2012, 01:00 AM
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I have to chuckle at those who are blaming Bernier for wanting to be traded.

In any case, I too think he'll be a badass, so please trade him to the east.

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06-29-2012, 01:52 AM
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I think Edmonton is a prime location for Bernie. We could get a solid return. MPS was on DL's radar during the draft but we took Schenn.

MPS + 2nd rounder and low end prospect?
They already have Dubnyk.

I don't think there's much of a market out there for Bernier.

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06-29-2012, 02:04 AM
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I dont blame him if this is true, I wouldn't want to wait 10 years to start either.

However I think the best for both is he ride out the year. With the long season and no summer to rest Quick will be tired and Bernier will be relied on more. Play out the contract you agreed to and signed, play hard, play well and then get traded to a team that will pay you well to come in and be their starter.

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06-29-2012, 02:06 AM
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New Jersey and Chicago are the teams that are looking for a solid starter. These two teams should be the primary targets to deal Bernier, hopefully it is New Jersey.

Edmonton has Reimer and Scrivens who also have number 1 potential.
Tampa already got their number 1.
Edmonton needs to give Dubnyk a shot.

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06-29-2012, 02:16 AM
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The only weak spot on this roster that needs to be filled is Carter. Replace him with a Stalberg or someone who plays a physical game while potting 20+ goals, re-sign Penner and we're set. Call up Jones while we're at it.

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06-29-2012, 02:58 AM
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They already have Dubnyk.

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06-29-2012, 03:00 AM
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They already have Dubnyk.

I don't think there's much of a market out there for Bernier.
Dubnyk isn't even in the same class as Bernier.

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06-29-2012, 03:05 AM
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The only weak spot on this roster that needs to be filled is Carter. Replace him with a Stalberg or someone who plays a physical game while potting 20+ goals, re-sign Penner and we're set. Call up Jones while we're at it.
Wow..

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06-29-2012, 03:07 AM
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The only weak spot on this roster that needs to be filled is Carter. Replace him with a Stalberg or someone who plays a physical game while potting 20+ goals, re-sign Penner and we're set. Call up Jones while we're at it.
I'll just pretend that this post was made while you were under the influence.

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The only weak spot on this roster that needs to be filled is Carter. Replace him with a Stalberg or someone who plays a physical game while potting 20+ goals, re-sign Penner and we're set. Call up Jones while we're at it.
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06-29-2012, 03:31 AM
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Dubnyk isn't even in the same class as Bernier.
What has Bernier done at the NHL level that Dubnyk hasn't?

Dubnyk 1st round pick (14th overall)
Bernier 1st round pick (11th overall)

11-12
Dubnyk 47gp 2.67 .914
Bernier 16gp 2.36 .909

10-11
Dubnyk 35gp 2.71 .916
Bernier 25gp 2.48 .913

Dubnyk has also played on a much worse defensive team than Bernier.

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06-29-2012, 04:11 AM
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Tweet was ********.

Their will be news that Bernier NEVER asked for a trade in the next few days.

Just a stupid moron jumping on the obvious. Its pretty obvious Bernier gets traded and if he does he will be like YUP! GOT IT! but the reality Bernier is still going to be traded and he didn't ask for a trade.

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06-29-2012, 05:17 AM
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Sucks this has to be the case.. i haven't liked any kings goaltending since potvin's dream run... Other than that, the goaltending position in this organization has just been a pile of failures. And now we have 2 really really good goaltenders.

I've always liked bernier and actually have full faith in his capaibilities to be a successful number one. But it makes perfect sense for him to want to thrive elsewhere, it just makes me nervous because I'm not really that excited about the tenders in our system.

Was high on Martin Jones but it looks like his development has stalled, Zatkoff looks promising but nothing really to write home about. The other 2 we drafted relatively high (berube, and gibson) have looked awful in dev camps and after looking at their JR numbers, both having sub 900 sv %'s. Both are still young so there's room to improve i suppose. They aren't anywhere near ready though to even back up.

I wouldn't mind holding on to Bernier til we get the best deal possible. I don't think there's a rush trading him at this point, Goalies get injuried and that could really force a contender to give up the farm for this kid... and it's not out of the question that quick might get hurt. We have good chance at another cup, and if we put all our eggs in the quick basket and if he gets hurt, that's pretty much the season if we don't have bernier there.

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06-29-2012, 10:04 AM
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But Bernier has a Stanley Cup.

I'm sticking with a 2nd and maybe a low-end prospect. GMs know that Dean has to trade Bernier now with Quick locked up. I would be very happy if Dean can get a 1st for next year to replace the one going to Columbus.
He doesn't HAVE to trade him now. He has a full year to deal him, and that's plenty of time to play chicken in the NHL. If a GM out there needs a goalie and may be worried about his long-term security, he'd likely blink before DL does.

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Here's the trade Edmonton wins the Schultz bid.
We trade Bernier for Schultz. Get a nice D prospect and piss the Ducks off in the process.

Not that this is what I would want but it would sure be
So we could sign him for free, but let's let Edmonton sign him and then trade them Bernier to get Schultz?

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NJ also hosts the draft next season, would Lou really give it up to the NHL with the draft in NJ?

Bettman will get booed like crazy in NJ.


I think dean moves Bernier to the east.
Good point about the draft in NJ. Doubt Lou deals a 1st in 2013 and likely will forfeit his 2014 1st instead.

Man they better hope they do well that year.

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06-29-2012, 10:33 AM
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What has Bernier done at the NHL level that Dubnyk hasn't?

Dubnyk 1st round pick (14th overall)
Bernier 1st round pick (11th overall)

11-12
Dubnyk 47gp 2.67 .914
Bernier 16gp 2.36 .909

10-11
Dubnyk 35gp 2.71 .916
Bernier 25gp 2.48 .913

Dubnyk has also played on a much worse defensive team than Bernier.
Dubnyk had more consistent starts, Bernie was a backup that never got enough starts due to playing behind a world class goalie.

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06-29-2012, 10:35 AM
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NJ also hosts the draft next season, would Lou really give it up to the NHL with the draft in NJ?

Bettman will get booed like crazy in NJ.


I think dean moves Bernier to the east.
Especially if the 13 draft is as strong as it's sounding like... I'd want that pick for Bernier but would Lou trade or give up the pick with the draft in his home building?

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06-29-2012, 11:05 AM
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Tweet was ********.

Their will be news that Bernier NEVER asked for a trade in the next few days.

Just a stupid moron jumping on the obvious. Its pretty obvious Bernier gets traded and if he does he will be like YUP! GOT IT! but the reality Bernier is still going to be traded and he didn't ask for a trade.
Wouldn't surprise me considering the source of these rumors. Strickland isn't the most reliable source of information.

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06-29-2012, 11:41 AM
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Sad but expected. I don't want to see him go, but on the other hand he's just rotting away on the bench as his young years slip by. He needs to go somewhere where he can at least be in a 1a/1b situation. He's too good and he's the kind of player that gets better the more games he plays. He's always been like that, even back in his junior days. I hope he goes out east, but to a team I can root for. I'd love it if it was a team I could watch their games before Kings games are on, and not have to worry about him going up against us a lot. He's going to be special, but the longer he sits on the bench, the less likely that happens.

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06-29-2012, 12:11 PM
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thats a classic reaction..lol

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He deserves a chance to play. He's been a team player and kept his mouth shut. I just hope we don't trade him to a team like Chicago where it can come back to bite us. Send him east please.

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