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06-29-2012, 01:03 PM
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http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/spor...9_section_POS1

So Lats WANTS to be back with the habs. Article says he wants to get closer to his son and he thinks he could have a new start with bergevin and Therrien

I'll be happy with that.

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So Lats WANTS to be back with the habs. Article says he wants to get closer to his son and he thinks he could have a new start with bergevin and Therrien

I'll be happy with that.
Sure, why not.

Let's sign him up.

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same reason Ramo wasnt coming to Montreal

Brodur is not coming to Mpntreal to play 12-15 games behind Price.


I said this a long time ago, i would trade Price for the Kings randsom, and sign Brodeur as a UFA for 2 year deal ....
Don't get me wrong ,I'm a big fan of Price, but Martin Brodeur is every bit as good even at 40.
You'd trade the face of your franchise at 24 to add a 40 year old goalie on a reubilding team? So when Brodeur retires a season later and you don't have a single goalie in the system, what do you do?

What on earth?

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You didnt watch NHL playoff this year.


You need to respect more a legend.


The HUGE RETURN you get for Price likley turns you into a CUP CONTENDER......Brodeur can give you a can to win for 2 years, then you sign a UFA goalie .....Bruins won with Tim Thomas.
I didn't say Brodeur was worthless, I said giving him a 2 year contract in Montreal would be worthless. So he comes here for two years, plays well, we likely don't win the Cup because realistically we're not at that level yet, and then we're left holding the bag when he retires and we have no Plan B? "Sign a UFA goalie" isn't much of a plan, and I seriously doubt the pieces we'd get from any Price trade would be enough to turn us from the league's basement into Cup contenders in the time that Brodeur was here.

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You didnt watch NHL playoff this year,the guy in the final,took NJ a team there that wasn't even forecast to be there.

You need to respect more ,a legend.


The HUGE RETURN you get for Price likley turns you into a CUP CONTENDER NOW.....Brodeur can give you a great chance to win for 2 years, then you sign a UFA goalie .....Bruins won with Tim Thomas.
I can certainly get behind this idea no problem at all and I like Price.

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06-29-2012, 01:08 PM
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You'd trade the face of your franchise at 24 to add a 40 year old goalie on a reubilding team? So when Brodeur retires a season later and you don't have a single goalie in the system, what do you do?

What on earth?
IT's Martin Brodeur, not Iyla Bryz....

Trust me there's GREAT GOALIE's avail in next 2 years...

The return you get for Price would be HUGE....and trust me it would set the franchise into the next level,not 4 years from now , BUT NOW.

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06-29-2012, 01:14 PM
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IT's Martin Brodeur, not Iyla Bryz....

Trust me there's GREAT GOALIE's avail in next 2 years...

The return you get for Price would be HUGE....and trust me it would set the franchise into the next level,not 4 years from now , BUT NOW.


I agree and who knows CP may be available at that time also.

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So Lats WANTS to be back with the habs. Article says he wants to get closer to his son and he thinks he could have a new start with bergevin and Therrien

I'll be happy with that.
I was maybe his biggest hater when he played here but I would give him a second chance.

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06-29-2012, 01:17 PM
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I agree and who knows CP may be available at that time also.
Here is a list of 2013 AND 2014 potential Ufa goalies.I said this long time ago , Brodeur for a few years, then look for Kipper or Halak or even Miller.

The return you get for Price is goona be a grand slam homerun , no question.
Ryan Miller is no down grade in 2014 ,You can win with HALAK also or Kiprusoff.


I'm a Price FAN, but you got to make HOCKEY decisions...


2014 UFA
Lundqvist, Henrik G NYR 30 $6,875,000 2014 (UFA)
Miller, Ryan G BUF 31 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Kiprusoff, Miikka G CGY 35 $5,833,333 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas G ANA 30 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav G STL 27 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Crawford, Corey G CHI 27 $2,666,667 2014 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas G PIT 35 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Elliott, Brian G STL 27 $1,800,000 2014 (UFA)
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2013 uFA GOALIES

Backstrom, Niklas G MIN 34 $6,000,000 2013 (UFA)
Thomas, Tim G BOS 38 $5,000,000 2013 (UFA)
Khabibulin, Nikolai G EDM 39 $3,750,000 2013 (UFA)
Lehtonen, Kari G DAL 28 $3,550,000 2013 (UFA)
Nabokov, Evgeni G NYI 36 $2,750,000 2013 (UFA)
Howard, Jimmy G DET 28 $2,250,000 2013 (UFA)
Smith, Mike G PHO 30 $2,000,000 2013 (UFA)
Theodore, Jose G FLA 35 $1,500,000 2013 (UFA)
Garon, Mathieu G TBL 34 $1,300,000 2013 (UFA)
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien G COL 35 $1,250,000 2013 (UFA)
Labarbera, Jason G PHO 32 $1,250,000 2013 (UFA)
Emery, Ray G CHI 29 $1,150,000 2013 (UFA)
Budaj, Peter G MTL 29 $1,150,000 2013 (UFA)
Nihlstorp, Christopher G DAL 28 $1,000,000 2013 (UFA)
Fasth, Viktor G ANA 29 $1,000,000 2013 (UFA)
Boucher, Brian G CAR 35 $950,000 2013 (UFA)
Khudobin, Anton G BOS 26 $875,000 2013 (UFA)
Karlsson, Henrik G CGY 28 $862,500 2013 (UFA)
Drouin-Deslauriers, Jeff G ANA 28 $612,500 2013 (UFA)
Greiss, Thomas G SAN 26 $587,500 2013 (UFA)
MacDonald, Joey G DET 32 $550,000 2013 (UFA)
Hutton, Carter G CHI 26 $525,000 2013 (UFA)
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06-29-2012, 01:20 PM
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Here is a list of 2014 potential Ufa goalies.I said this long time ago , Brodeur for a few years, then look for Kipper or Halak or even Miller.

The return you got for Price is goona be a grand slam homerun , no question.
Ryan Miller is no down grade in 2014 ,You can win with HALAK also.


I'm a Price FAN, but you got to make HOCKEY decisions...


Lundqvist, Henrik G NYR 30 $6,875,000 2014 (UFA)
Miller, Ryan G BUF 31 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Kiprusoff, Miikka G CGY 35 $5,833,333 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas G ANA 30 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav G STL 27 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Crawford, Corey G CHI 27 $2,666,667 2014 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas G PIT 35 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Elliott, Brian G STL 27 $1,800,000 2014 (UFA)
The hi lited would be my first choices on that list for sure and it is about the cup not playing favs. I always cheer the name in the front of the jersey not the ones on the back.

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Re Latendresse: People do realize that he hasn't played more than 16 games in the last 2 years, right? The guy hasn't been healthy since he left Montreal! There's much better out there if we want a 3rd liner.

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Re Latendresse: People do realize that he hasn't played more than 16 games in the last 2 years, right? The guy hasn't been healthy since he left Montreal! There's much better out there if we want a 3rd liner.
It's a risk so I would be looking to sign him for a cheap 1 year contract. He would look good with Eller if he can produce like he did in Minny.

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Here is a list of 2013 AND 2014 potential Ufa goalies.I said this long time ago , Brodeur for a few years, then look for Kipper or Halak or even Miller.

The return you get for Price is goona be a grand slam homerun , no question.
Ryan Miller is no down grade in 2014 ,You can win with HALAK also or Kiprusoff.


I'm a Price FAN, but you got to make HOCKEY decisions...
Ask the Philadelphia Flyers how planning to build your team around which goalies are available in free agency works out.

And what happens if, god forbid, Kipper or Halak or Miller don't want to sign with us?

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Ask the Philadelphia Flyers how planning to build your team around which goalies are available in free agency works out.

And what happens if, god forbid, Kipper or Halak or Miller don't want to sign with us?
What's the problem. Big Ticket Free Agents love to sign in Montreal

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Ask the Philadelphia Flyers how planning to build your team around which goalies are available in free agency works out.

And what happens if, god forbid, Kipper or Halak or Miller don't want to sign with us?
I doubt we would have much trouble bringing Halak back here at all.

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Ask the Philadelphia Flyers how planning to build your team around which goalies are available in free agency works out.

And what happens if, god forbid, Kipper or Halak or Miller don't want to sign with us?
There was only one reason Halak wanted to leave,it wasn't because people we;re putting up stop signs with his name on them.Halak left for one of the same reasons Staal left Pittsburgh.
Worse case you got Halak...Best case you got a 33 yr old Ryan Miller .I fail to see the worry.
Now the package you got for Price , if Nash is getting a big return , imagine the love of Price NHL wide.
Would i trade Price to Blackhawks a Price lover? yes ,and imagine what comes to Montreal.
There's teams lined up a mile long if Price was on the block .


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There was only one reason Halak wanted to leave,it wasn't because people we;re putting up stop signs with his name on them.Halak left for one of the same reasons Staal left Pittsburgh.
Worse case you got Halak...Best case you got a 33 yr old Ryan Miller .I fail to see the worry.
Now the package you got for price , if Nash if getting a bg return , imagine the love of Price NHL wide.
This times 1000

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There was only one reason Halak wanted to leave,it wasn't because people we;re putting up stop signs with his name on them.Halak left for one of the same reasons Staal left Pittsburgh.
Worse case you got Halak...Best case you got a 33 yr old Ryan Miller .I fail to see the worry.
Now the package you got for price , if Nash if getting a bg return , imagine the love of Price NHL wide.
You fail to see the worry? What happens if Halak doesn't want to come here? Sure he liked it here, but that would have been 4 years ago. Or maybe someone's going to offer him a bigger contract than we do. Same thing with Miller. I don't know how you can't see that planning the most important position on your team around who might be available and who might sign here is a terrible idea.

Pretty hard to say what we'd get in a return for Price, but you're also seemingly forgetting that he doesn't have a contract right now, which drops his value some. So either we have to sign and trade him (almost never happens in the NHL anymore) or we have to take what we can get for an unsigned Price...and goalies historically don't bring back proven, NHL-ready talent in trades anyway.

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Trading Price and signing Brodeur would be a terrible idea. People forget how much goalie values are in trades. When has any goalie (except the Hasek for Kozlov trade, though Buffalo didn't even profit from that) traded for a good return?

Brodeur would only stay for 1-3 seasons max. He's aging, yet he's still good. Doubt Brodeur even wants to come here, I bet he's looking for a cup contender. Yes, NJ went to the cup, he may think his chances are still better elsewhere.

If we trade Price, we won't get much in return. While Brodeur, if we even sign him, won't be here for long.

Trading Price to make room for Brodeur is a terrible idea. I would have been interested had Brodeur been younger and if the contract would be long term. But at this point... no ****ing way. If he gets into a cup contending team and wins the cup. Then, good for him, but I still wouldn't trade Price for him as I strongly doubt we'd get that far with Brodeur.

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You fail to see the worry? What happens if Halak doesn't want to come here? Sure he liked it here, but that would have been 4 years ago. Or maybe someone's going to offer him a bigger contract than we do. Same thing with Miller. I don't know how you can't see that planning the most important position on your team around who might be available and who might sign here is a terrible idea.

Pretty hard to say what we'd get in a return for Price, but you're also seemingly forgetting that he doesn't have a contract right now, which drops his value some. So either we have to sign and trade him (almost never happens in the NHL anymore) or we have to take what we can get for an unsigned Price...and goalies historically don't bring back proven, NHL-ready talent in trades anyway.

No i don't worry about another goalie ,you got Brodeur for 2 years.
There is help in 2013 if you need it ....example Nabakov can hold the fort .


Anyway 6.50-7 million dollar Price , what happens if he stumbles in next 2 yrs with that contract? There's risk everywhere.

All i say is this team is better trading Price.....if there was no goalies avail like Brodeur or Miller or etc etc , i would NEVER propose this idea.

Price's value NHL wide is sky high to a lot of teams , that is a fact with or with out a contract.
If it means Montreal getting back a Toews like player ,and a boat load, i pull the trigger ,because one i feel Brodeur can put up 2 years of service, and even in 2013 there are names than are starters in NHL, like Smith or Nabakov, Backstrom etc...


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No i don't worry about another goalie ,you got Brodeur for 2 years.
There is help in 2013 if you need it ....Nabakov can hold the fort .


Anyway 6.507 million dollar Price , what happen if he stumbles in next 2 yrs with that contract? There risk everywhere.

All i say is this team is better trading Price.....if there was no goalies avail like Brodeur or Miller or etc etc , i would NEVER propose this idea.

Price value NHL wide is sky high to a lot of team , that is a fact with our with a contract.
If it mean Montreal getting back a Toews like player ,and a boat load, i pull the trigger .
I think a trade with Colo who is dying for solid goaltending maybe a Stasny and prospect and pick return. Maybe send them Price and a prospect like LL or JT or DK to sweeten the deal.

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