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06-29-2012, 12:55 PM
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The draft age being so low is, IMO, a major problem. During the last lock-out, the NHL messed up a glorious opportunity to cancel the '05 draft and move the minimal age to 19 for the '06 draft (I guess we have the Crosby show to blame for that one!).

18 is just too early in the development stage to make a proper evaluation on most of these guys and makes the draft too much of a guessing game. Considering how much money and time is invested in player development, this really has to be re-evaluated.
Get real, the Habs probably spend more on Xmas cards or complementary food and drinks in their press box than they do on player development.

I would rather make it illegal for the NHL to operate in this country than to make it illegal for law-abiding 18 year-olds from making an honest living doing what they love, namely, playing hockey.

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06-30-2012, 07:35 AM
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Get real, the Habs probably spend more on Xmas cards or complementary food and drinks in their press box than they do on player development.

I would rather make it illegal for the NHL to operate in this country than to make it illegal for law-abiding 18 year-olds from making an honest living doing what they love, namely, playing hockey.


If this is how you feel then you must think the NCAA is the axis of evil.

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I have a feeling that the calgary 2nd rounder will be very high next season

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06-30-2012, 08:47 AM
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I have a feeling that the calgary 2nd rounder will be very high next season
I'm getting the vibe itll be 37th

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I have a feeling that the calgary 2nd rounder will be very high next season
I have a feeling so will our ours...

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The draft age being so low is, IMO, a major problem. During the last lock-out, the NHL messed up a glorious opportunity to cancel the '05 draft and move the minimal age to 19 for the '06 draft (I guess we have the Crosby show to blame for that one!).

18 is just too early in the development stage to make a proper evaluation on most of these guys and makes the draft too much of a guessing game. Considering how much money and time is invested in player development, this really has to be re-evaluated.
I don't think that's the case at all. 10-20 years ago we would never see 18 year olds have such an impact in the NHL. Kids train much harder than they used to and are under a lot more exposure. It's much easier to scout. Heck, this whole website is based on amateur scouts discussing the opinions of professional scouts. To think the impact a kid like Nugent-Hopkins had despite being 170 lbs is incredible.

Scouting and development is now top notch. If there is a concern, it's for the older players 35+ that have guaranteed contracts no one wants to give, so they will start being flushed out gradually by kids.

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06-30-2012, 09:40 AM
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I have a feeling so will our ours...
I have a feeling so will Nashville's.

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I have a feeling so will Nashville's.
If there ever was a year to have a lot of high draft choices, next year's draft is the one. If the team has another lottery pick coupled with their three 2nd rounders and their excellent draft this year, the team will be set for the next decade. I'm not saying tank, but if there was ever a year to use younger players and forgo the band -aid approach of signing a number of lesser, but high priced free agents, next year is the year.

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If we tank this upcoming season. Timmins will put us in the position to be a godly team in 3-5 years.

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If we tank this upcoming season. Timmins will put us in the position to be a godly team in 3-5 years.
I don't want us to finish last, but at the same time...

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If this is how you feel then you must think the NCAA is the axis of evil.

They are!!

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06-30-2012, 12:34 PM
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Off subject but i'm pretty sure Gatineau will pick a german player in the Import draft (in 30min)

Leon Draisaitl

Nice stats: http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=71913

A lot of scout says he will become the best player from germany (ever)

He is elligible in 2014 right?
Holy crap!

192 points in 29 games? What does this kid EAT?

Very impressive stats, both in league and international tournaments.

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I don't think that's the case at all. 10-20 years ago we would never see 18 year olds have such an impact in the NHL. Kids train much harder than they used to and are under a lot more exposure. It's much easier to scout. Heck, this whole website is based on amateur scouts discussing the opinions of professional scouts. To think the impact a kid like Nugent-Hopkins had despite being 170 lbs is incredible.

Scouting and development is now top notch. If there is a concern, it's for the older players 35+ that have guaranteed contracts no one wants to give, so they will start being flushed out gradually by kids.
You're talking about rare exceptions to the rule. In fact, I'd argue that in the grand scheme of things, 18 year old's have very little impact on the NHL. They are generally too weak physically and especially mentally and emotionally to play in the big league.

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06-30-2012, 01:33 PM
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You're talking about rare exceptions to the rule. In fact, I'd argue that in the grand scheme of things, 18 year old's have very little impact on the NHL. They are generally too weak physically and especially mentally and emotionally to play in the big league.
My point is that it's happening more and more today than it did 20 years ago.

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06-30-2012, 03:34 PM
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My point is that it's happening more and more today than it did 20 years ago.
That might be so but there were still only 4 players that played the whole season in the league last year and I don't see more than 2 or 3 doing so this year.

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06-30-2012, 05:52 PM
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Holy crap!

192 points in 29 games? What does this kid EAT?

Very impressive stats, both in league and international tournaments.
31 points in 5 play-off games that season. Bwahaha

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07-01-2012, 05:43 PM
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I know judging people based on twitter is a bad idea but Mackinnon seems very thoughtful and mature for his age.

Probably doesn't effect us but...

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And if were out of the playoffs by trade deadline we now have Armstrong and Boulluion for more draft picks!

What would each get us in return? Assuming both have decent seasons?


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Don't we have Calgary and Nashvilles 2nds? Nashville without Suter could easily miss the playoffs. Calgary might try and rebuild and move Iginla, that 2nd could be very close to a 1st.

If we make the playoffs we could have some nice pieces to move into the top 10 picks.

Edit: Also say Eller and Galchenyuk look primed to fill our top 6 centre positions, we could move Plekanec for a very high pick.

Bergevin is going to have some very nice options next year if he is smart.

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07-02-2012, 05:54 AM
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I know judging people based on twitter is a bad idea but Mackinnon seems very thoughtful and mature for his age.

Probably doesn't effect us but...
I'm from Halifax and my younger brothers best friend has a brother thats played with mackinnon on team nova scotia (as ridiculous as that sounds) . Apparently he has no game with the ladies and needs the boys on the mooseheads to help with it. Also I've been told he simply didn't want to go to Quebec simply because he wanted to stay in Halifax

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I'm from Halifax and my younger brothers best friend has a brother thats played with mackinnon on team nova scotia (as ridiculous as that sounds) . Apparently he has no game with the ladies and needs the boys on the mooseheads to help with it. Also I've been told he simply didn't want to go to Quebec simply because he wanted to stay in Halifax
Its Halifax, he doesn't need game. All he has to do is say I'm Nathan MacKinnon and he will get laid.

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Tanking is not the answer.

The "good" news is at this point we really don't need to in order to pick top 10.

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Its Halifax, he doesn't need game. All he has to do is say I'm Nathan MacKinnon and he will get laid.
Yeah really, I don't think he needs to do much.

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During the school year the breakdown has to be at least 60% girls 40% guys in this city, conservatively.

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During the school year the breakdown has to be at least 60% girls 40% guys in this city, conservatively.
its phenomenal, hahaha,

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During the school year the breakdown has to be at least 60% girls 40% guys in this city, conservatively.
I've been trying to convince friends to take a road trip to Halifax with me, I think you just gave me the best argument yet.

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If we tank this upcoming season. Timmins will put us in the position to be a godly team in 3-5 years.
The Habs will play with heart and soul into each game,but they need help from Hamilton again and the prospects aren't ready.4th or 5th this season & a lottery pick again.Seth Jones will play on the East Coast in Montreal with any luck from the lottery.

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