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06-30-2012, 08:11 AM
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He is a lazy bag of turds. He is exactly the type of influence that we do not need in the locker room.

Hard to preach an organizational philosophy of hard work and a dedication to winning when you go out and bring in a selfish clown like Kovalev.
He has had his moments, no doubt, but if he is motivated, and used with limited ice time, lower minutes, some PP and shootouts, it could work...

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06-30-2012, 08:15 AM
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See, I don't think Kovalev "didn't care" or "wasn't motivated".

The guy wanted to win, for sure, he had that drive. I think it was more arrogance than laziness in his case, which made it seem like laziness - he thought he could pull it all off on his own more often than not, and I said, that's arrogance, not laziness.

Lazy players aren't winners. Kovalev was a winner, and his playoffs were beastly.

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06-30-2012, 08:37 AM
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Sign Kovalev, he can mentor Gally in his 1st 9 NHL games..

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06-30-2012, 08:47 AM
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See, I don't think Kovalev "didn't care" or "wasn't motivated".

The guy wanted to win, for sure, he had that drive. I think it was more arrogance than laziness in his case, which made it seem like laziness - he thought he could pull it all off on his own more often than not, and I said, that's arrogance, not laziness.

Lazy players aren't winners. Kovalev was a winner, and his playoffs were beastly.
Kovalev in all fairness was very unique.

He was lazy and selfish but did like playing in big moments.......like an uber-talented Dustin Penner. He did this because it was fun for him.....not because he gave a damn about the team otherwise he would have put in an honest effort far more often then he actually did.

He would float aimlessly and make mindless, idiotic plays for most of the game then when the game was on the line he would pull everyone out of their seats with an unparalelled display of skill. Even then he was still able to take his selfishness to new heights such as faking that wrist injury in the playoffs against Boston.

Coaches hated him because he refused to play within the system and did whatever he pleased, including taking extra long shifts and blind backpasses that quite often were right on the opponents stick. Kovalev has a very low hockey IQ but may be among the most skilled players ever to play in the NHL. He really isn't any use as a mentor as you can't teach his skill level and that is all that he has going for him.

He went to Russia last season and stole a paycheck before he was released from the team for being a bum. This organization is trying to instill a winning culture where teammates support each other and put the logo before their name..........Kovalev doesn't embody any of those virtues.

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06-30-2012, 08:53 AM
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Sign Kovalev, he can mentor Gally in his 1st 9 NHL games..


Maybe we can encourage Galchenyuk to take up base jumping and crocodile wrestling during the off season to stay in shape.......

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06-30-2012, 09:22 AM
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Kovalev in all fairness was very unique.

He was lazy and selfish but did like playing in big moments.......like an uber-talented Dustin Penner. He did this because it was fun for him.....not because he gave a damn about the team otherwise he would have put in an honest effort far more often then he actually did.

He would float aimlessly and make mindless, idiotic plays for most of the game then when the game was on the line he would pull everyone out of their seats with an unparalelled display of skill. Even then he was still able to take his selfishness to new heights such as faking that wrist injury in the playoffs against Boston.

Coaches hated him because he refused to play within the system and did whatever he pleased, including taking extra long shifts and blind backpasses that quite often were right on the opponents stick. Kovalev has a very low hockey IQ but may be among the most skilled players ever to play in the NHL. He really isn't any use as a mentor as you can't teach his skill level and that is all that he has going for him.

He went to Russia last season and stole a paycheck before he was released from the team for being a bum. This organization is trying to instill a winning culture where teammates support each other and put the logo before their name..........Kovalev doesn't embody any of those virtues.
I dont know where you get that from but that's not the Kovalev I saw. His bad passes would come from weak passes to the middle or failure to pass. He hardly ever made blind passes that were off target..I have NHL vault and I have been watching the habs from 2007-08 season and dam can this guy make plays that make you say how the **** did he jsut do that? One hand on the stick, dekes one guy pushes another guy with his other hand and then slides a pass under the 3rd guy's skates to a teammate. He is just so exciting to watch when he is on..and I think the low IQ also is harsh. He's not Wayne Gretzky but for a guy who scored 40-50 assists a year almost he can't have bad iq. Average IQ maybe, definately lack of motivation.

I think the hard fact to face is that his kind of style doesn't often lead to goals but does entertain you. That's why he always came short of our expectations. Some people's styles just are not suitable to have 100 point seasons in the NHL.

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06-30-2012, 09:29 AM
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Kovalev is like an ex girlfriend.

Getting back together seems like a good idea, but deep down inside you just know that its going to be the same BS all over again.

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06-30-2012, 09:48 AM
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Kovalev is like an ex girlfriend.

Getting back together seems like a good idea, but deep down inside you just know that its going to be the same BS all over again.
Haha good analogy.

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06-30-2012, 10:49 AM
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Kovalev is like an ex girlfriend.

Getting back together seems like a good idea, but deep down inside you just know that its going to be the same BS all over again.
lollll but the question is, did you really wanted to breakup or outside forces were responsible?

imagine your first night..the excitement. oh! la! la!

7 goals 10 assists and.. lots of cleanup to do.

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06-30-2012, 11:23 AM
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lollll but the question is, did you really wanted to breakup or outside forces were responsible?

imagine your first night..the excitement. oh! la! la!

7 goals 10 assists and.. lots of cleanup to do.
Its not him, its the team.

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06-30-2012, 12:04 PM
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What's the point? You know within a month, it ll be clear that kovalev is over the hill, the media will be all over him about being heartless and then if they don't get rid of him, they'll be calling for bergevin's head. What's the best we can expect? 40 points? Best case scenario?

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06-30-2012, 01:41 PM
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What's the point? You know within a month, it ll be clear that kovalev is over the hill, the media will be all over him about being heartless and then if they don't get rid of him, they'll be calling for bergevin's head. What's the best we can expect? 40 points? Best case scenario?
More than you'd get out of Gomer Pile, which isn't saying very much at all.


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He is a lazy bag of turds. He is exactly the type of influence that we do not need in the locker room.

Hard to preach an organizational philosophy of hard work and a dedication to winning when you go out and bring in a selfish clown like Kovalev.
Please kovy has dedicated himself in the past. The concerns are overblown. He has always maintained top physical condition. You don't accomplish that by being a lazy bag of turd. Kovy is notorious for being in outstanding condition, something usually not attributed to lazy people.

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Bombed in Ottawa, released from his KHL team
His KHL team!!! Where NHLers go before pasture.
Well they deemed that pasture was the next stop early.
So why? For the love of god, would we want him back?
4th liner limited minutes PP time only etc etc
You do know that you're only allowed to dress 20 right?
Not 20+(1) where one is that ever-deserving enigmatic over the hill Russian that moves people to march in protest.
The love for retreads and reclamations around here amazes me

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I'd lose faith in this management team if we acquired him.

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Bombed in Ottawa, released from his KHL team
His KHL team!!! Where NHLers go before pasture.
Well they deemed that pasture was the next stop early.
So why? For the love of god, would we want him back?
4th liner limited minutes PP time only etc etc
You do know that you're only allowed to dress 20 right?
Not 20+(1) where one is that ever-deserving enigmatic over the hill Russian that moves people to march in protest.
The love for retreads and reclamations around here amazes me
1. Who wants to play in Ottawa? Especially after playing in Montreal... it would surely suck.

2. Who wants to play in the KHL? borrrrring.

3. On shootouts alone, he will be gold, and help us collect points there.

4. He can be a PP, and shootout specialist.

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I'd take Kovalev back only if they also signed AK46 and kept Gomez and put all 3 on the same line. Think of the fun.

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I'd take Kovalev back only if they also signed AK46 and kept Gomez and put all 3 on the same line. Think of the fun.
gunnin for mackinnon are we?

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Please kovy has dedicated himself in the past. The concerns are overblown. He has always maintained top physical condition. You don't accomplish that by being a lazy bag of turd. Kovy is notorious for being in outstanding condition, something usually not attributed to lazy people.
Obviously I was referring to his effort on the ice. We aren't going to sign him to win the NHL body building title.

He is one of the most notorious slackers and waste of talent in the history of the NHL. This guy should have been competing for the scoring title every season that he played but he never came close despite his ridiculous skill level.

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1. Who wants to play in Ottawa? Especially after playing in Montreal... it would surely suck.

2. Who wants to play in the KHL? borrrrring.

3. On shootouts alone, he will be gold, and help us collect points there.

4. He can be a PP, and shootout specialist.
So who's spot does he take?
A fourth liner?
He's not a 4th line player, sacrifice a spot of one of the young guys?

not worth it, not worth the spot

In the NHL you can dress 20, that's it - play at that level or take your instructional video and go home

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Honestly, the only way Kovalev comes back to the Habs is on a camp invite. I can't see risking a guaranteed contract with him being 35+ and the way he's played the last 2 years. Bring him to camp to battle Geoffrion and Palushaj for a spot on the 3rd line if we don't get Latendresse or Mueller or a similar player.

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