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Offseason Discussion IX: Is it Sunday yet? (Contract/FA charts in Post #1)

UFA 2012


As always, all figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.


UPDATED: 2012-2013 salary ceiling: ..70,200,000
Projected cap spending: ..................57,933,333
Projected cap space: .......................12,266,667


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Sidney Crosby
C
24
8,700,000
8,700,000
8,700,000
Evgeni Malkin
C
25
8,700,000
8,700,000
UFA
James Neal
RW
24
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Chris Kunitz
LW
32
3,725,000
3,725,000
UFA
Brandon Sutter
C
23
2,066,667
2,066,667
RFA
Tyler Kennedy
RW
25
2,000,000
RFA
 
Matt Cooke
LW
33
1,800,000
UFA
 
Pascal Dupuis
LW
33
1,500,000
UFA
 
Craig Adams
RW
35
675,000
UFA
 
Dustin Jeffrey
C
24
575,000
RFA
 
Joe Vitale
C
26
550,000
550,000
UFA
Defense.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Paul Martin
D
31
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Brooks Orpik
D
31
3,750,000
3,750,000
UFA
Kris Letang
D
25
3,500,000
3,500,000
UFA
Matt Niskanen
D
25
2,300,000
2,300,000
UFA
Deryk Engelland
D
30
566,667
566,667
UFA
Ben Lovejoy
D
28
525,000
UFA
 
Goalie....................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Marc-Andre Fleury
G
27
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Tomas Vokoun
G
35
2,000,000
2,000,000
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Beau Bennett
RW
20
900,000
900,000
900,000
Brian Gibbons
C
24
900,000
RFA
 
Paul Thompson
RW
23
900,000
RFA
 
Adam Payerl
RW
21
850,000
850,000
850,000
Tom Kuhnhackl
LW
20
821,667
821,667
821,667
Dominik Uher
C
19
585,000
585,000
585,000
Nick Petersen
LW
23
566,667
RFA
 
Zach Sill
C
24
535,000
RFA
 
Defense...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Brian Dumoulin
D
20
900,000
900,000
900,000
Philip Samuelsson
D
20
900,000
900,000
RFA
Joe Morrow
D
19
894,167
894,167
894,167
Simon Despres
D
20
840,000
840,000
RFA
Reid McNeill
D
20
558,333
558,333
558,333
Goalie..................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Patrick Killeen
G
22
548,333
RFA
 
Brad Thiessen
G
26
525,000
UFA
 



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Player..................
Pos.
Age
2011-12
News & Notes
Steve Sullivan
LW
37
1,500,000
Seems to be a significant help to the power play
Cal O'Reilly
C
25
1,050,000
No QO, could be re-signed to lower cap hit
Mattias Modig
G
25
875,000
Signed with Växjö (SEL)
Casey Pierro-Zabotel
LW
23
850,000
Already banished from the organization
Marc Cheverie
G
25
803,500
Michalek trade -- Your guess is as good as mine
Arron Asham
RW
34
775,000
Has expressed a strong desire to return
Brent Johnson
G
35
600,000
Game suddenly fell off a cliff this winter
Steve MacIntyre
LW
31
600,000
Is Shero's stance on enforcers changing?
Jason Williams
RW
31
600,000
Signed with Ambri-Piotta (NLA)
Alexandre Picard
D
26
600,000
Will likely move along for a better crack at the NHL
Richard Park
C
36
550,000
Reasonable option as a 13th/14th forward
Boris Valabik
D
26
550,000
Injuries ruined season -- No QO
Ryan Craig
C
30
525,000
WBS captain two years running
Colin McDonald
RW
27
525,000
Dropped off to just 14 goals this season
Scott Munroe
G
30
525,000
Veteran AHL option who can carry the load
Brad Thiessen
G
26
525,000
Re-signed with Penguins (1 yr/$525,000)



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player..................
Pos.
Age
2011-12
News & Notes
Matt Niskanen
D
25
1,500,000
Re-signed with Penguins (2 yrs/$2.3M per)
Keven Veilleux
RW
22
854,167
Injured -- Typically cursed 2nd round pick
Carl Sneep
D
24
850,000
Still lagging behind many other defensive prospects
Brian Strait
D
24
850,000
A good bet to stick with the big club as a 6/7 option
Eric Tangradi
LW
23
845,833
Skillset sadly hasn't endeared him to Bylsma
Alex Grant
D
23
790,000
Likely saved pro career with showing on power play
Robert Bortuzzo
D
23
535,000
Pens like him, but will he make it through waivers?



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team
Contract
Scott Harrington
D
19
London (OHL)
3 years/894,167 per



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team (League)
Kenny Agostino
F
20
Yale (ECAC)
Josh Archibald
F
19
Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA)
Teddy Blueger
F
17
Minnesota State (WCHA)
Nick D'Agostino
D
22
Cornell (ECAC)
Patrick Ehelechner
G
27
Nürnberg (DEL)
Ben Hanowski
F
21
St. Cloud State (WCHA)
Olli Maatta
D
17
London (OHL)
Sean Maguire
G
19
Boston University (HEA)
Matia Marcantuoni
F
18
Kitchener (OHL)
Matt Murray
G
18
Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
Alexander Pechurskiy
G
22
Klin (VHL)
Derrick Pouliot
D
18
Portland (WHL)
Harrison Ruopp
D
19
Prince Albert (WHL)
Bryan Rust
F
20
Notre Dame (CCHA)
Clark Seymour
D
19
Peterborough (OHL)
Oskar Sundqvist
F
18
Skellefteå (J18)
Alex Velischek
D
21
Providence (HEA)
Scott Wilson
F
20
UMass-Lowell (HEA)
Anton Zlobin
F
19
Val d'Or (QMJHL)




PSA courtesy Ogrezilla

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I'm expecting Pens to offer Parise something in neighborhood of 10 years, $75-80 million.

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if we don't have Parise signed by 1 tomorrow this place is going to be in full panic mode

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Big question - Does Parise or Suter even sign tomorrow?
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This is the exact reason why Parise won't sign a deal tomorrow IMO. He is gonna get offers from a few teams and will no doubt want to take a bit of time to think them over. Probably the only major contract he will ever sign if its a long term deal.

Suter on the other hand doesn't seem to be setting up for major meetings with different teams like Parise is. This leads me to believe everything will be done over the phone with him and he could very well sign tomorrow.
Isn't Suter not taking all calls/planning any meetings at all tomorrow? That's fine, it will help Shero focus on the primary goal of Parise. And I'm okay with the Yohe guess of $7.5 to $8m per season, but 10 years is a loooooong time.

Also love these Niskanen quotes from twitter:

Niskanen: "I'm not happy to be in Pittsburgh. I'm super happy."


Niskanen: "Pittsburgh does things the right way, and I want to be a part of it there. I knew immediately it was the right place for me."

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Rossi just said almost he same thing. Apparently somebody's doing some leaking.
If so it does not hurt us. It is more broadcasting to Parise that we are serious.

Well, at least I do not think it hurts us. It puts other teams on notice as well and gives them time to plan around it. I do not hear any sort of leaking like this from Detroit or NJ. I suppose for the Pens it is like the guy who at an auction where the bidding is going up in $100 amounts suddenly bumps the bid by $10,000 hoping to give the message to others that he will go to whatever it takes, back off and look at some other painting. Maybe it will work, who knows.

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That Niskanen kid... you just want to give him a big man-hug (no homo).

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Isn't Suter not taking all calls/planning any meetings at all tomorrow? That's fine, it will help Shero focus on the primary goal of Parise. And I'm okay with the Yohe guess of $7.5 to $8m per season, but 10 years is a loooooong time.

Also love these Niskanen quotes from twitter:

Niskanen: "I'm not happy to be in Pittsburgh. I'm super happy."


Niskanen: "Pittsburgh does things the right way, and I want to be a part of it there. I knew immediately it was the right place for me."
i like it. And ya, 10 years is a long time. But that is a deal that would be very hard to say no to.

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if we don't have Parise signed by 1 tomorrow this place is going to be in full panic mode
I'm going to hide anything breakable in my living room for my possible raging tomorrow...

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That Niskanen kid... you just want to give him a big man-hug (no homo).
It's ok, we won't judge



I wouldn't dare disagree with those eyes.

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I'm going to hide anything breakable in my living room for my possible raging tomorrow...
I'm glad my fiance will be at work. I really should get some beer though.

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if we don't have Parise signed by 1 tomorrow this place is going to be in full panic mode
I am not so sure Parise will take that long. It depends if the whole thing with Sid is true or not. If he knows where he wants to end up and gets a reasonable contract (the reported abouts of $7 - $8 million over 10 years certainly qualify) what is left to ponder over? I also expect that except for the offer of the Wild, the offers will be similar to one another anyways. The offers to Jagr from Detroit and the Pens were that way, and we both pulled at the same time. I also think that Suter is Detroit's most important target, given the hole that they are filling.

If he really has no preference, then it might take a while as he sorts through the offers.

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i like it. And ya, 10 years is a long time. But that is a deal that would be very hard to say no to.
I sure hope so cause I'm gonna cry like a little girl if he signs somewhere else tomorrow

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I am not so sure Parise will take that long. It depends if the whole thing with Sid is true or not. If he knows where he wants to end up and gets a reasonable contract (the reported abouts of $7 - $8 million over 10 years certainly qualify) what is left to ponder over? I also expect that except for the offer of the Wild, the offers will be similar to one another anyways. The offers to Jagr from Detroit and the Pens were that way, and we both pulled at the same time.

If he really has no preference, then it might take a while as he sorts through the offers.
Imagine the outrage of other fans if he signs here immediately at noon. Everyone will call tampering and just freak the hell out.

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It's ok, we won't judge



I wouldn't dare disagree with those eyes.

There will be no disagreeing with Orpik. His wife will tell you those eyes "just melted her heart". Now we have to figure out what her heart was made from... I'm betting Jarvic 9 titanium heart, implanted after a hockey accident.

"You all... you just don't know Brooks the way I do... he's so SWEET."

Yah... SURE LADY. You keep thinkin' that.

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I sure hope so cause I'm gonna cry like a little girl if he signs somewhere else tomorrow
I haven't been this nervous for a FA Frenzy in an awfully long time. When is the last time we had this kind of cap space? Right along with that though, when is the last time we had the holes we have right now?

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I'm glad my fiance will be at work. I really should get some beer though.
That's perfect! It's probably best for her to not be around if you're going to obsess over tomorrow (which of course you will )

What do you think the proper beer for FA day is? Something Pittsburgh based to help with the Parise-to-Pitt karma?

My wife and I have season tickets to the musicals at Benedum each summer and tomorrow we have tickets for Annie @ 2pm. I realized this on Wednesday when I looked at our packet of tickets and started to freak out. Luckily my wife loves me and just laughed and said she'd take one of her friends with her and I could stay home and watch tv and play on my forums. That's why I love her

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I sure hope so cause I'm gonna cry like a little girl if he signs somewhere else tomorrow
I am going to make a little girl cry if he does.

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10 years is much too much to give to Parise or Suter.

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I haven't been this nervous for a FA Frenzy in an awfully long time. When is the last time we had this kind of cap space? Right along with that though, when is the last time we had the holes we have right now?
I was at lunch with work friends at the Famous Dave's that used to be in the Water Works (God I miss that place) when I got the text that Hossa signed with Detroit. I honestly felt like I had just been dumped. And now I've worked myself up to that point again!

Well we've shored up the goaltending and are still stacked down the center. But yeah the team defense (ie system and players) need to be fixed this year big time.

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I am hiding all my electronics and delicate items just in case I rage, which will happen if he signs elsewhere. If he signs in Philly, oh boy.....

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I haven't been this nervous for a FA Frenzy in an awfully long time. When is the last time we had this kind of cap space? Right along with that though, when is the last time we had the holes we have right now?
Me neither. I haven't even been eating that well today, or yesterday... or day before that...

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I haven't been this nervous for a FA Frenzy in an awfully long time. When is the last time we had this kind of cap space? Right along with that though, when is the last time we had the holes we have right now?
When we signed Michalek and Martin. That turned out well

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It's ok, we won't judge



I wouldn't dare disagree with those eyes.
In that video, did anybody else think, he said that "a player who will help HER team win?"

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I am going to make a little girl cry if he does.

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