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06-27-2012, 08:16 PM
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Cool - Veilleux was traded to Moncton last week.
On June 8, per the QMJHL Transactions List at their website.

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06-27-2012, 09:17 PM
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Concur... Jaskin has decent size at 6' 2, 198, and has been a key player in the Czech junior league and for the Czech World Junior squads. This is a chance for him to show that his selection at 41st overall was no fluke.

It would be great if he could play on a line with, and develop some chemistry with, Yannick Veilleux.

The 'Cats also have an American-born center, a kid named Brandon Shea, who played 45 games with Moncton last year (3 G, 7 A, 22 PM), and has a June 1995 birthdate, which means he'll be eligible for the draft next summer.

Shea has good size at 6' 2, 200 pounds, and won just under half of his faceoffs last year (217 out of 452)... Just thinking out loud, if Moncton puts him between Veilleux and Jaskin, and the three really take off as a line, you might be looking at a potential 2013 draft pick for the Blues here...
interesting idea, but the way the 2013 draft is shaping up to be, do not be expecting him in the first few rounds unless he really takes off

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06-27-2012, 10:38 PM
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Hopefully that also means Jaskin will take part in the Blues Prospects camp/Tourney.

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06-28-2012, 10:20 AM
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Concur... Jaskin has decent size at 6' 2, 198, and has been a key player in the Czech junior league and for the Czech World Junior squads. This is a chance for him to show that his selection at 41st overall was no fluke.

It would be great if he could play on a line with, and develop some chemistry with, Yannick Veilleux.

The 'Cats also have an American-born center, a kid named Brandon Shea, who played 45 games with Moncton last year (3 G, 7 A, 22 PM), and has a June 1995 birthdate, which means he'll be eligible for the draft next summer.

Shea has good size at 6' 2, 200 pounds, and won just under half of his faceoffs last year (217 out of 452)... Just thinking out loud, if Moncton puts him between Veilleux and Jaskin, and the three really take off as a line, you might be looking at a potential 2013 draft pick for the Blues here...
Brandon Shea is either A) leaving the Q to go to the USHL in Dubuque or B) is demanding a trade to another team.

He was a hot topic last summer after giving up a spot on the NTDP 17's to go to Moncton. Like most young players lured to major junior, he was completely misled by the coaching staff and wasn't given nearly the responsibility or ice time that he was told he would get. Gave up a scholarship to BC in the process.

He left the team and toured Dubuque's facilities in mid-March. I'm not sure where things stand now but he's not going back to Moncton.

Anyway, back to Blues prospects....

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06-28-2012, 12:01 PM
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Brandon Shea is either A) leaving the Q to go to the USHL in Dubuque or B) is demanding a trade to another team.

He was a hot topic last summer after giving up a spot on the NTDP 17's to go to Moncton. Like most young players lured to major junior, he was completely misled by the coaching staff and wasn't given nearly the responsibility or ice time that he was told he would get. Gave up a scholarship to BC in the process.

He left the team and toured Dubuque's facilities in mid-March. I'm not sure where things stand now but he's not going back to Moncton.

Anyway, back to Blues prospects....

Shea wasn't mislead at all about his ice time, he was placed on the second line to start the season but he wasn't ready for that kind of ice time in the Q. That's how it works in competitive hockey your ice time gets reduced if you are not producing.

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06-28-2012, 12:43 PM
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Maybe someone should start a 2012-2013 Blues prospects thread. Just a thought.

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06-28-2012, 02:24 PM
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Anyone have the latest scouting report on Edmundson. I know he had the high ankle sprain and missed Blues camp and the beggining of the season in juniors. Seemed like he came on late in the season.

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06-28-2012, 03:43 PM
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Shea wasn't mislead at all about his ice time, he was placed on the second line to start the season but he wasn't ready for that kind of ice time in the Q. That's how it works in competitive hockey your ice time gets reduced if you are not producing.
Whatever. That's what the CHL wolves do. They promise these kids the world with some nice financial compensation with the sales pitch being that coming north improves their draft stock. But if they struggle adapting, too bad for the kid who just gave up a scholarship at one of the finest collegiate hockey universities.

Blame goes both ways but I tend to decide with the 15 and 16-year old kids being manipulated.

The tide is slowly turning as the USHL continues to gain more traction.

They said Nick Ebert made a good move leaving Waterloo two years ago to come to the OHL which would make him a guaranteed first rounder. How'd that work out?

They said Schmaltz should've left the USHL to go to Windsor for his draft year. Turned out just fine him as he was a first rounder.

They said Matheson should've went to the Q instead of going to the USHL out of Quebec Midget. Was a first rounder.

This was a very good year for the USHL in erasing that perception that the CHL is the end-all-be-all for draft eligible players.

The USHL's issue is marketing and exposure, not talent. CHL is certainly more exposed and that's the only real advantage that it has in the battle of CHL vs. USHL/NCAA.

But at the end of the day, like always, the scouts will find the talent.

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06-28-2012, 04:24 PM
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Whatever. That's what the CHL wolves do. They promise these kids the world with some nice financial compensation with the sales pitch being that coming north improves their draft stock. But if they struggle adapting, too bad for the kid who just gave up a scholarship at one of the finest collegiate hockey universities.

Blame goes both ways but I tend to decide with the 15 and 16-year old kids being manipulated.

The tide is slowly turning as the USHL continues to gain more traction.

They said Nick Ebert made a good move leaving Waterloo two years ago to come to the OHL which would make him a guaranteed first rounder. How'd that work out?

They said Schmaltz should've left the USHL to go to Windsor for his draft year. Turned out just fine him as he was a first rounder.

They said Matheson should've went to the Q instead of going to the USHL out of Quebec Midget. Was a first rounder.

This was a very good year for the USHL in erasing that perception that the CHL is the end-all-be-all for draft eligible players.

The USHL's issue is marketing and exposure, not talent. CHL is certainly more exposed and that's the only real advantage that it has in the battle of CHL vs. USHL/NCAA.

But at the end of the day, like always, the scouts will find the talent.
USHL has the advantage of kids being able to go to the NCAA. Getting a college education is not a bad option at all for a player. The NHL is a tough league and if you don't make it at least you will have an education. Even if they only play 2-3 years in the NCAA at least they will be half way to a college degree.

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06-28-2012, 05:22 PM
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USHL has the advantage of kids being able to go to the NCAA. Getting a college education is not a bad option at all for a player. The NHL is a tough league and if you don't make it at least you will have an education. Even if they only play 2-3 years in the NCAA at least they will be half way to a college degree.
Absolutely. Certainly you'll have some kids who were just born to play the game like Toews and Crosby but mostly you'll have kids who could go 50/50 in their professional careers and it's usually pretty easy to spot who the good kids are at a young age from their off-ice character. A guy like Backes, for example, had pro written all over him from a young age just because of how mature he was even back then during his junior days in Lincoln. And he's a guy who stayed three years in college and was an excellent student working towards a physics degree.

And on a similar topic it should be pointed out that another main reason that the CHL gets some of these American kids is strictly academics. Blackhawks draft pick Alex Broadhurst, probably the second best pure offensive player in the USHL last year and Schmaltz's teammate in Green Bay, is only going to London next year and not Nebraska-Omaha because he couldn't pass clearing house.

Unbelievably talented kid who will probably rip up the Q next year but will probably never make it based on the whispers about his work ethic and smarts.

Charlie Coyle is another one who left BU b/c of academics not because the QMJHL was going to help him develop into a better player compared to playing for Jack Parker in Hockey East. He even said as much at the time he left mid-season for Saint John.

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Brandon Shea is either A) leaving the Q to go to the USHL in Dubuque or B) is demanding a trade to another team.

He was a hot topic last summer after giving up a spot on the NTDP 17's to go to Moncton. Like most young players lured to major junior, he was completely misled by the coaching staff and wasn't given nearly the responsibility or ice time that he was told he would get. Gave up a scholarship to BC in the process.

He left the team and toured Dubuque's facilities in mid-March. I'm not sure where things stand now but he's not going back to Moncton.

Anyway, back to Blues prospects....
Got a source for all this speculation, by any chance? Not saying you're fibbing, by any means, but would like to see something a little more definitive than just your say-so, if it's all the same to you...

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Got a source for all this speculation, by any chance? Not saying you're fibbing, by any means, but would like to see something a little more definitive than just your say-so, if it's all the same to you...
You'll find some stuff on the topic in this thread on a USHL board including an article posted with quotes from Shea.

http://finishyourcheck.com/topic/623...-brandon-shea/

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You'll find some stuff on the topic in this thread on a USHL board including an article posted with quotes from Shea.

http://finishyourcheck.com/topic/623...-brandon-shea/
Thank you, and I apologize if I came off sort of ******-y there... I just find it hard to take on blind faith a lot of what I read on the 'Net.

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That is some funny &^%$ P_B!!

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Maybe someone should start a 2012-2013 Blues prospects thread. Just a thought.
Perhaps a new one will be started as soon as Hockey's Future post a article soon I hope that includes last weeks 2012 draft class, and to see who has fallen off the list from last season like Junland as a example

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Perhaps a new one will be started as soon as Hockey's Future post a article soon I hope that includes last weeks 2012 draft class, and to see who has fallen off the list from last season like Junland as a example
There's already a sticky at the top of the page for the 2012-2013 discussion thread.

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There's already a sticky at the top of the page for the 2012-2013 discussion thread.
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