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Canucks sign D Jason Garrison to 6-Year, $27.6m Deal ($4.6 AAV) - NTC

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07-01-2012, 07:24 PM
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All of a sudden it's a solid offseason.

It's what adding a *core* quality talent will do.

Anytime you can add a solid top 4 D-man, you've had a good summer.

The Canucks are a better team as of right now, they have 4 legitimate top-4 defensemen.


I still consider Ballard to be top4 - even though he has to play behind Edler and Hamhuis here. One look around the league tells me this.

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Flames fans actually prefer the Wideman contract.
LMAO, they're nuts.

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Probably a smart move today. Got someone who WANTS to play here, dreamed of it actually. A young guy heading into his prime, big body who can play tough defensive minutes and move the puck at the same time, can step into our PP and help it immediately. Our only D man who can play both sides, already so versatile. I didn't think he'd actually come home, there's no doubt better offers out there. He took a discount. I am happy.
This, precisely. He absolutely took less, and Gillis made a very good move.



So here's what I've been thinking. The bottom line is...

Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Garrison
Ballard Tanev

Is MUCH better for next year than

Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Schultz
Ballard Tanev

And it's that simple. The only good thing about getting Schultz, would be putting him in the minors, and having a terrific 'fill-in Dman' in case someone in the lineup got hurt. But that little ***** wanted not only gauranteed icetime, but gauranteed top-4 minutes. So he was useless to us. He couldn't have worked out. We didn't need him in the top-4, plus we couldn't AFFORD to put him in the top-4.


In summary: Gillis came through in a BIG way. I was getting scared there with Rome, Gragnani, Then Schultz, the Salo all parting ways - but now, everything is good. EVERYTHING!

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07-01-2012, 07:25 PM
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Garrison left $ on table - was offered "Wideman money" elsewhere - but wanted to play for hometown VAN, which held firm on internal $ scale.
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Feels good, man. Well done, Garrison!

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who esle can we sign? and what needs? one centerman depth D-men, depth forward

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Hey guys, look at this list of the top defensive defense men in the NHL!

Look who is number 1! Look who is number 2!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article576301/

(Hint: As of today, they both play for us)

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There's Panthers fans in Winnipeg? Hmmm not bad

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Any worry about these two years being fluke years?
Doesn't really matter if they were fluke years, he's still solid defensively.

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Florida fans were pretty willing to give him 5 mil for 5 years.
Well, some of us. Personally I think it all came down to that Tallon didn't want to create a logjam on D with another long-term contract. And since a budget team like Panthers can't offer frontloaded 8-12 million annual contracts, he was pretty much a goner.

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Florida PBP calling him the G52 Bomber.
G52 and Sexy Bomb comes to my mind.

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Feels good, man. Well done, Garrison!
Nice.

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Hey guys, look at this list of the top defensive defense men in the NHL!

Look who is number 1! Look who is number 2!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article576301/

(Hint: As of today, they both play for us)
#10 Ehrhoff

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Hey guys, look at this list of the top defensive defense men in the NHL!

Look who is number 1! Look who is number 2!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article576301/

(Hint: As of today, they both play for us)
I think the fact that Bieksa is #9 may cause some peoples' heads to explode.

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Hey guys, look at this list of the top defensive defense men in the NHL!

Look who is number 1! Look who is number 2!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article576301/

(Hint: As of today, they both play for us)
1, 2, 9, 19 on that list, but it is old (has Ehrhoff with us still).

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I have never seen him play, outside of some highlights, but here is what I gathered, from various sources:

Good puck-moving defenseman.
Moves well enough to get the puck out of danger.

He is a shooter more than a passer.
People say he has a great shot from the point.

He has nice size, and he is willing to use it.
However, he cannot be considered physical, despite the hit numbers.
I guess that means he is not a pushover, but he cannot be depended on to deliver big hits every game.

He plays great defense.
One scouting report says "efficient".
I guess that means he has good positioning.
He played over 23 minutes a game last year, against some of the toughest competition last year, and still has the sixth highest Corsi numbers (which I don't know, but people have been using it to determine defensive prowess).

http://www.the6thsens.com/2012-artic...son993931.html
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.cgi?6570

People worry about his offense and rather if he was a one year wonder, but I think even if he fell back down to earth, his defense would be worth his contract.
Edler and Ballard need a steady presence, and if he steadies them and allows them to score more, then there is no need to worry about a drop in offense.

Nevertheless, I think his offense would be fine.
He has a big time shot, he moves well enough, and our players loves to feed the point for that big shot.
Plus, he is just entering his prime, so hopefully a regression is unlikely.
Conservatively, I will say he gets at least 8 goals, but I would expect 10+, many of which would be on the powerplay.

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How about between Howden and Petrovic?
I'd prefer a player closer to his prime like Versteeg. Not the size Gillis is typically looking for but they all can't be big apes.

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Hey guys, look at this list of the top defensive defense men in the NHL!

Look who is number 1! Look who is number 2!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article576301/

(Hint: As of today, they both play for us)
Nice! Makes me wish we had Weaver as our 7 instead of Alberts. Or Weaver as our 6th defenceman come crunch time!

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I'd prefer a player closer to his prime like Versteeg. Not the size Gillis is typically looking for but they all can't be big apes.
Highly doubt Tallon moves him though.

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Florida PBP calling him the G52 Bomber.
That's pretty epic actually... that may be one of my favorite sports nicknames of all time.

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Feels good, man. Well done, Garrison!
Well done indeed!

Awesome signing today

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Congrats guys, G52 will will a steady, solid, durable 2-way d-man for you, even if he doesn't produce at last year's level, he can still log a ton of minutes. As for Lou, Tallon has made it clear that he doesn't want to give a prospect of the level of a Bjugstad, Petrovic, or Howden, but with time either side can cave in.

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who esle can we sign? and what needs? one centerman depth D-men, depth forward
Doan and a center filler and i'm happy.

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Garrison left $ on table - was offered "Wideman money" elsewhere - but wanted to play for hometown VAN, which held firm on internal $ scale.
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Always nice to see a local guy come home. Hamhuis has some company in the "home grown" department.

Defense looks pretty solid at the moment, so I'm interested to see how Gillis addresses the need for a top-six forward.

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Feels good, man. Well done, Garrison!
Gillis is so ballsy. Even with so few guys out there and a real need he held strong to the internal cap. If Garrison goes somewhere else... not good imo. Big signing for Gillis.

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G52 and Sexy Bomb comes to my mind.
I'm going with "The Rock"

Rock solid defensively, hits a lot, bomb of a shot and pays homage to his home town.

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Hey guys, look at this list of the top defensive defense men in the NHL!

Look who is number 1! Look who is number 2!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article576301/

(Hint: As of today, they both play for us)
Thanks for putting it up, but that was last year.
This year, I think he is 6th.

Nevertheless, it shows that he has been good defensively for 2 years in a row now.
That alone should be worth his contract.
Anything else would be extra.

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