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07-01-2012, 09:28 PM
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im not sure if sitting in a press box is considered "playing"
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You don't have to actually play to be a star in Montreal!

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Still a better deal than paying him to play for them.
That's not fair, we honestly don't know what it would be like if he played.

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I dont care that he signed with Montreal. He is worn out. No surprise, really. Players that play his style dont last long. I bet he spends more time in the press box than on the ice next season. Good riddance.

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I really like Armstrong, and really wish him the best. I hope he can overcome his issues because when he wasn't hurt, he was one of my favorite guys to watch. He is all heart and soul.

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I know the Leafs have a winning record with him in the lineup, but I feel as an older player and with the A he seemed way too laid back/jokey, which was good for laughs in the dressing room, but I'd much prefer a serious/no nonsense/balls out/tough type of leadership, as well as that type of style in the bottom 6... it's too bad. I thought when he had that half clapper top cheddar in his first preseason that he would be awesome.

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Wait. So we buy him out, he gets signed, and the Habs pay nothing?

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07-02-2012, 01:48 AM
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Habs will have quite a few guys in bottom 6 to work with, Armstrong being one of them. He may be on 4th line or 3rd line or in pressbox, at 1 mil, not a bad deal for my team. That being said, surprised he got bought out but not the end of the world for TO.

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07-02-2012, 01:55 AM
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Not gonna miss him, he's a glorified lapierre, runs around, talks alot, but won't back it up with his fists.. and the few times he does, well it's royally embarrassing. Definitely didn't bring any leadership either, unless bringing it on twitter counts.

Burke wants tough... something Armstrong isn't.

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07-02-2012, 06:54 AM
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Habs will have quite a few guys in bottom 6 to work with, Armstrong being one of them. He may be on 4th line or 3rd line or in pressbox, at 1 mil, not a bad deal for my team. That being said, surprised he got bought out but not the end of the world for TO.
There really should be no surprise. He wasn't effective in Toronto and we need the cap space.

I wish him luck in MTL, but honestly hope he stinks!

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07-02-2012, 07:31 AM
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Armstrong sucked his entire time here, or was injured.


Will not miss him at all, he brought nothing but jokes to the team. A team full of jokes.


Armstrong + Wilson gone, the old-but-not-old Guard, peace



I feel that i need to atleast state twice, how awful Armstrong was here. I give it 10 games before he breaks something again, then spends the 5 games he's back with a courtesy flush to "get back up to speed" before he gets injured again

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07-02-2012, 07:59 AM
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Not gonna miss him, he's a glorified lapierre, runs around, talks alot, but won't back it up with his fists.. and the few times he does, well it's royally embarrassing. Definitely didn't bring any leadership either, unless bringing it on twitter counts.

Burke wants tough... something Armstrong isn't.
I swear I remember tons of post saying how instrumental Armstrrong was to the Leafs when they had their amazing start to the season two years ago. Then he got hurt and the Leafs started loosing every game. Same last year, Leafs were in playoff contention until he got hurt. Burke gave u on him and it was unfair to tell him they lost faith in his ability to play in this league. He will proveBurke and the Leafs wrong in Montreal. He just got terrible injury luck. Pathetic he was bought out for that. No respect.

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07-02-2012, 08:05 AM
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I swear I remember tons of post saying how instrumental Armstrrong was to the Leafs when they had their amazing start to the season two years ago. Then he got hurt and the Leafs started loosing every game. Same last year, Leafs were in playoff contention until he got hurt. Burke gave u on him and it was unfair to tell him they lost faith in his ability to play in this league. He will proveBurke and the Leafs wrong in Montreal. He just got terrible injury luck. Pathetic he was bought out for that. No respect.
But I thought that "nobody would want him" and he was "dead wood" as you put it?

I wonder what has changed since then?

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You know what's funny, some guy with the same handle as you called Armstrong dead wood back in April.

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Nice find! Putting things in contest though, the OP that initiated my reply was trying to package mediocre players in a trade to get a good player. I get fed up of the all too frequent Komisarek, Connolly, Lombardy and McArthur for Nash type of trade proposals so I write stupid things then. I also said he was dead wood for 3 million. Not 1 million, which is close to league minimum. Anyway, Burke has other more pressing issues to deal with in my opinion (#1C, goaltender...). My biggest complaint about all this Armstrong thing is Burke going public saying he thought Armstrong was done as a player. Considering his injuries, Burke should just have shut up, nut everyone knows he can't shut up. Classless really. No wonder we are having trouble getting good UFAs. Having said all this, Armstrong will certainly not get Montreal out of the gutter though.

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But I thought that "nobody would want him" and he was "dead wood" as you put it?

I wonder what has changed since then?
Furthermore, in this case the only thing the Habs gave for Armstrong was a chance to prove Toronto wrong. The original post you mentionedinvolved giving up a top player in package including Armstrong.
Very different IMHO.

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07-02-2012, 08:19 AM
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Now that A is gone...time to think about getting rid of L C K.

If we did absolutely nothing from now till October besides get rid of L C K and let the kids play, I'd be a happy camper.

Lombardi, Connolly, Komisarek don't provide veteran leadership...and they are almost always invisible so we won't be missing their on ice contribution at all.

Komi could be trade to Long Island since his cap hit is now higher than what he is actually paid.

Waive Lombardi.

Give Connolly a chance to bounce back if we can't find any suitors but if things do work out, it's time to give a guy like Kadri or Colborne a chance.

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Nice find! Putting things in contest though, the OP that initiated my reply was trying to package mediocre players in a trade to get a good player. I get fed up of the all too frequent Komisarek, Connolly, Lombardy and McArthur for Nash type of trade proposals so I write stupid things then. I also said he was dead wood for 3 million. Not 1 million, which is close to league minimum. Anyway, Burke has other more pressing issues to deal with in my opinion (#1C, goaltender...). My biggest complaint about all this Armstrong thing is Burke going public saying he thought Armstrong was done as a player. Considering his injuries, Burke should just have shut up, nut everyone knows he can't shut up. Classless really. No wonder we are having trouble getting good UFAs. Having said all this, Armstrong will certainly not get Montreal out of the gutter though.
Burke never said that.

"Colby, from our perspective...it's a difficult thing because this is a guy that was hurt the entire time he was here. If it wasn't for bad luck he would have had no luck as a Leaf, and they were totally different injuries. It wasn't like he had a bad knee that kept going wonky on him. High ankle sprains and this and that, concussions...he just couldn't stay healthy and the injuries, the recovery period broke him down as a player and he wasn't able to get there at the end so...We're greatful for what he did for us when he was here, it wasn't for a lack of effort, he's a good kid, but we're moving on."

Not sure where you heard him say that.

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Burke never said that.

"Colby, from our perspective...it's a difficult thing because this is a guy that was hurt the entire time he was here. If it wasn't for bad luck he would have had no luck as a Leaf, and they were totally different injuries. It wasn't like he had a bad knee that kept going wonky on him. High ankle sprains and this and that, concussions...he just couldn't stay healthy and the injuries, the recovery period broke him down as a player and he wasn't able to get there at the end so...We're greatful for what he did for us when he was here, it wasn't for a lack of effort, he's a good kid, but we're moving on."

Not sure where you heard him say that.
I find it hilarious how fans and management are more patient with Burke than with Armstrong. It was not for effort that Army could not produce while on the leafs. It was things a bit out of his control - like injuries and such. And here is Burke ditching a under perfomring and underwhelming player that has lots of potential. And yet any discussion of removing Burke (not that I'm arguing for this ) is tabboo.

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I find it hilarious how fans and management are more patient with Burke than with Armstrong. It was not for effort that Army could not produce while on the leafs. It was things a bit out of his control - like injuries and such. And here is Burke ditching a under perfomring and underwhelming player that has lots of potential. And yet any discussion of removing Burke (not that I'm arguing for this ) is tabboo.
Trying to derail the thread?

I also wouldn't say Armstrong had lots of potential. He was underwhelming and under performing because of injuries like you said. Maybe he could be a decent 3rd line winger again but I'd rather he made room for Frattin or someone else who's fighting for a spot on the roster.

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That's not fair, we honestly don't know what it would be like if he played.
Well actually we do. He played about 70 odd games for the Leafs. I'll tell you what it would be like if he played. UNDERWHELMING. What is the fascination with mediocre 3rd line players? Why do folks get all hung up on Armie, Crabb and Steckel type players...these guys are so replaceable and I'd rather the Leafs play a bunch of AHL scrubs in those roles and have some real talent on the top 6 and a bonafide #1 goalie with a Suter type #1 Defenseman.

Who cares about Colby Armstrong? I'd much rather see Matt Frattin....any day of the week.

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Trying to derail the thread?

I also wouldn't say Armstrong had lots of potential. He was underwhelming and under performing because of injuries like you said. Maybe he could be a decent 3rd line winger again but I'd rather he made room for Frattin or someone else who's fighting for a spot on the roster.

Not trying to derail the thread at all. I find it curious how people can compartmentalize this situation in their brain to rationalize a story.

And I'm all for playing the kids. What you are pointing is how these costly and long UFA signings (and trades via Lombardi) are hampering the development of youth.

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Not trying to derail the thread at all. I find it curious how people can compartmentalize this situation in their brain to rationalize a story.
haha I had to look up the meaning of this word, had me confused for a second.


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And I'm all for playing the kids. What you are pointing is how these costly and long UFA signings (and trades via Lombardi) are hampering the development of youth.
I don't think I was drawing that conclusion, not sure how you perceived that from my post.
I'm on the side of playing the kids when they're ready.

I just think Armstrong tried to make it work here, got unlucky and both parties have moved on. Not really a big deal.

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I can't say that I'm all that surprised. Despite Colby being a more heart and soul player than most of our players, I always felt like he wasn't a Randy Carlyle player.... He's actually quite small (not in height, but in size), and isn't that strong of a presence in the bottom six. I loved his never give up attitude, but I didn't think he was a Carlyle player.

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Well actually we do. He played about 70 odd games for the Leafs. I'll tell you what it would be like if he played. UNDERWHELMING. What is the fascination with mediocre 3rd line players? Why do folks get all hung up on Armie, Crabb and Steckel type players...these guys are so replaceable and I'd rather the Leafs play a bunch of AHL scrubs in those roles and have some real talent on the top 6 and a bonafide #1 goalie with a Suter type #1 Defenseman.

Who cares about Colby Armstrong? I'd much rather see Matt Frattin....any day of the week.
It was a joke but anyway, for the first time in ALL history I agree with you. Colby (for whatever reason) didn't get it done in TO. Let's give Frattin his chance.

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I find it hilarious how fans and management are more patient with Burke than with Armstrong. It was not for effort that Army could not produce while on the leafs. It was things a bit out of his control - like injuries and such. And here is Burke ditching a under perfomring and underwhelming player that has lots of potential. And yet any discussion of removing Burke (not that I'm arguing for this ) is tabboo.
Burke is 'ditching' a guy who didn't get the job done. Don't care why, he didn't. We move on, he moves on. No hard feelings until he takes his first run at Phil

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Burke is 'ditching' a guy who didn't get the job done. Don't care why, he didn't. We move on, he moves on. No hard feelings until he takes his first run at Phil

Yet people disagree with any fan that want to "ditch" Burke who they feel is not getting the job done. Not that I disagree with opening a roster spot for a kid (if that is the plan) nor am I suggesting to fire Burke, but ditching underperforming people works equally well for management as it does for players.

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