My problem with Semin has always been the stupid ****ing offensive zone penalties and his disappearing act in the playoffs when the series was on the line.
From all accounts, if Riberio's faults are long shifts and not the **** Semin did or didnt do...I can deal with that. And if Oates can get those shifts shorter...then I can really deal with that.
Oates or no coach can fix the ******** Semin does or doesnt do.
Do you have a problem with Laich or Backstrom's stupid penalties as well?
Aside from his 2 dumb penalties on Callahan Semin hasn't done this dumb **** this year. Are we just gonna ignore his play under Hunter to push forward the "no coach can fix him" mantra. And yeah, he disappears in the playoffs. It sucks and I wish we had a team of Ovechkin clones but Ovechkin aside who the **** on our team doesn't from time to time. If you really think the rest of our team is that much more playoff consistent than he is I don't know what you've been watching. Only difference is we don't call everyone else a fraction as hard out on it.
Without him we don't win 2 of the series we've won to date. He was excellent against Boston and put in the effort against New York even if he was shut down offensively.
Ribeiro much like Semin likes to do his own thing. He's Canadian though so it's cooler.
Some have suggested just using Semin's cap space will improve our team. Even if it had to be 2 @ 2.5 hard worker types. But what if George does nothing, will we be better?
This is where team building/chemistry comes into play.
They dont have to use his cap space to be better if the team is instantly better with his subtraction.
I think that is the point of a lot of the arguing on here...without actually saying it.
No, I wasn't. You finally get a legit 2C and let Thais scoring threat walk. It makes perfect sense!
When that scoring threat wants too much money and term, is purportedly a bad locker room influence, makes all kinds of moronic on-ice decisions, and lacks any perceptible intangibles that give him value beyond his production, then yes, it does make perfect sense to let him walk.
If you're talking about playing styles, Zach Parise is 100% a grinder.
He has grinding in his game for sure, but I wouldn't really call him a grinder. I don't know, like I said it's beside the point. You're right about what he was implying, so whatever. For me it's just about making the most of Ribeiro if the second line is going to be built around him. 21-63-20 doesn't do that.
When that scoring threat wants too much money and term, is purportedly a bad locker room influence, makes all kinds of moronic on-ice decisions, and lacks any perceptible intangibles that give him value beyond his production, then yes, it does make perfect sense to let him walk.
Is anyone else still shaking their head at TSN calling Semin a locker room cancer yesterday? I can't believe how inaccurate that garbage was, he's as quiet as they come.
It might depend on how much traction Bruce Boudreau's endorsement of two of his favorite Capitals has with the management core in Anaheim. The Ducks' HC might have a good deal of input.
This is where team building/chemistry comes into play.
They dont have to use his cap space to be better if the team is instantly better with his subtraction.
I think that is the point of a lot of the arguing on here...without actually saying it.
Good point. We are debating just that, will we be better without him or not.
I think we need to replace him with a top 6 player, for our team to be better. Without him, I am preparing for more trapping.
It will be interesting to see the team sans Semin. As our longest tenured player, loving his god modes and hating his lazy penalties has been a way of life for us fans. Being angry is at least entertainment. I fear I will be more bored than I was last year.
For all the negativity true or not, I cannot pinpoint him being THE reason we have not made the ECFs. He is a top line player, but stuck playing on a 2nd line in his prime. Brooks "Crest" Laich was his LW, who has since become a checking center. His centers a revolving door more than not. SOB in its limited chances faced high / unreal expectations. Never really even tried at his natural spot, LW, in our competitive years
Semin may be more tired of his linemates TOI etc than fans are of him.
That is one view, decidedly from the Mike-Green-is-a-terrible-hockey-player school. If you're from the Mike-Green-recently-scored-30-goals school, and that is a rare thing, then you might view it differently.
It might depend on how much traction Bruce Boudreau's endorsement of two of his favorite Capitals has with the management core in Anaheim. The Ducks' HC might have a good deal of input.
Or maybe he doesnt want anything to do with either guy anymore.
Thats the suckage of Bruce being there now...or could be the awesomeness if they can work out something.
Do you have a problem with Laich or Backstrom's stupid penalties as well?
Aside from his 2 dumb penalties on Callahan Semin hasn't done this dumb **** this year. Are we just gonna ignore his play under Hunter to push forward the "no coach can fix him" mantra. And yeah, he disappears in the playoffs. It sucks and I wish we had a team of Ovechkin clones but Ovechkin aside who the **** on our team doesn't from time to time. If you really think the rest of our team is that much more playoff consistent than he is I don't know what you've been watching. Only difference is we don't call everyone else a fraction as hard out on it.
Without him we don't win 2 of the series we've won to date. He was excellent against Boston and put in the effort against New York even if he was shut down offensively.
Ribeiro much like Semin likes to do his own thing. He's Canadian though so it's cooler.
Semin's penalties:
2012 - 28 minors, first on the team among forwards, 22nd in the NHL among forwards
2011 - 27 minors, first on the team among forwards, 25th in the NHL among forwards
2010 - 33 minors, first on the team among forwards, 10th in the NHL among forwards
If you're from the I'm-Bryan-Murray-and-I'm-Trying-To Make-My-Hockey-Team better school of thought I just don't see how you make that trade unless you think Green is Shea Weber.
Their defense actually gets worse, not because I think Green sucks defensively (I'm from he's a good player school of thought) or anything but because Beauchemin is playing 30 minutes a game for them in all situations and is their #1 DFD and #1 physical D. This isn't even taken into account that they've given away Visnovsky because they're loaded on PMDs. Ryan is one of the most coveted players in the league making 500k more than Laich and could probably return an aspiring 2nd line all on his own.
