I hope for his sake he finds his game in Dallas because he was terrible in Buff. Took nights off, terrible in his own end, had trouble fitting with teammates. (I don't know how anyone doesn't succeed on a line with Poms and Vanek...)
I hope for his sake he finds his game in Dallas because he was terrible in Buff. Took nights off, terrible in his own end, had trouble fitting with teammates. (I don't know how anyone doesn't succeed on a line with Poms and Vanek...)
Roy can skate, Ribeiro cannot.
The biggest thing that concerns me is now we have no veteran third liner. x - Eakin - Vincour will likely be the third line. Are we going to put Morrow there if he isn't moved?
Absolutely love this. This is a huge win for us, Pardy has negative value and Ott for Roy is horribly slanted our way.
We sign Doan or Semin and our top 6 looks better than it has since before the lockout IMO:
Whitney - Benn - Ryder/Semin
Eriksson - Roy - Ryder/Doan
Sucks to lose Ott on the 3rd line, but there must be someone left in FA.
God I'm so happy right now. We're playoff contenders this year while not screwing up the youth movement at all. In fact, you could say we're bettering it, as they'll have longer to improve now.
These are interesting times. This deal is part and parcel with the Ribeiro trade, they have to viewed in concert with each other. The larger plan is coming into focus.
If Joe's idea of turnover was just trading Ribeiro it would've been a failure. By sending Ott away he's proving that he's serious about remaking the team.
We got the best player in the deal which is always important. Roy will be able to pick up most of the slack that Ribs leaves behind and there's the potential to extend him and have him be a useful player for longer if he succeeds. What Nieuwendyk almost did is just put Ribs in a time machine and shave off a couple of years. While managing to dump the useless Pardy and adding Eakin/Shore for the future. That's pretty close to genius. Right now this feels like the 2nd best deal he's made as GM after getting Kari.
My favorite player is gone and my least favorite player is gone. I suppose that's fair.
No more yapping, no more diving, no more parade to the penalty box. Beautiful.
No offense, but what plan is coming into focus? Ribs+Ott+Pardy for Roy+Eakin+2nd. Now we have 2 undersized Cs. What happened to hard to play against/pesky stars?
We're building Gully's system. Offensive wingers and high speed centers with good defensive games all around.
All we need now is to move Robidas, Fistric and Wandell for a good two way D-man who is bigger than 6'2" and a 3rd line winger. I think we can get that for those two.
They don't even know what position he plays apparantly. They think he is a checking line center.
Anyways I am glad Ott is gone. I loved a lot about his game but I was getting extremely tired of all the penalties. Ott is a actually a pretty good hockey player when he focuses on..ya know... playing hockey. He has trouble doing that unfortunately. Ott really enjoys playing the agitator and has accrued quite a bad reputation with the officials. Its just got to the point where I was seriously questioning whether his constant trip to the penalty box was making his impact on the ice a net negative.
We're building Gully's system. Offensive wingers and high speed centers with good defensive games all around.
All we need now is to move Robidas, Fistric and Wandell for a good two way D-man who is bigger than 6'2" and a 3rd line winger. I think we can get that for those two.
I wouldn't have a problem with keeping Fistric if we got rid of Robidas...
My favorite player is gone and my least favorite player is gone. I suppose that's fair.
Never thought Otter was your favorite Stars player, can you explain why?
Back to topic:
I like this trade from the first second we get a very good and tricky Top6 Center who maybe just need a change of the scenery.
So Joe doesn't need to overpay a Free Agent Center like Jokinen, just resign Derek.
On the other side we have lost one Mr bad guy that makes me a little bit sad. If you have asked around the NHL Otter was always mentioned in the Top3 as most disliked hockey player. That made me always a very proud to be honest.
Thought we could send Robidas and Morrow first away instead of Ribs and Otter but thats the business.
Like this move from a Buffalo standpoint. Roy leaving is addition by subtraction almost for us, but I do think he will fit in nicely in Dallas. He'll have a full offseason to train (he was coming off a torn quad last year) and he should be good for 60-70 points.
Roy is an excellent PKer, solid defensively, although it is prone to making a great play on defense and then immediately turn it over. He's not really a playmaker though at times he tries to be...he should really shoot a lot more, he has an excellent wrister but he doesn't use it enough. Average on faceoffs, should be a consistent 30-40-70 guy.
But we definitely needed toughness, and Ott gives us some flexibility using him at wing or center.
Can anyone shed some light on Pardy though? Know next to nothing about him.
Ott is better at wing but great at faceoffs and solid pk. Pardy has negative value and his inclusion cost you $2 million on a guy who is a#7 d-man or saved you a prospect like Adam
Roy is a much worse player than Ribeiro. This is a pure dump with a pinch of reclamation. I would have rather shipped Ott for draft picks and watched Pardy's contract expire than trade Ott and Pardy just to watch Roy's expire.
