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07-03-2012, 03:59 AM
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To wit: It appears as if restricted free-agent defenseman Anton Stralman, whom the Rangers qualified at $945,000, is leaning toward remaining in the NHL rather than returning home to pursue a career in Sweden, an individual familiar with the situation told The Post.

It’s far more plausible the Rangers will attempt to negotiate a multi-year deal with Stralman, who recorded six points (3-3) while going plus-one in the playoffs in 16:55 of ice per that included 2:53 of power-play point time.

The Rangers also have been in contact with unrestricted free-agent winger Ruslan Fedotenko, who, a source reports, remains in the mix.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz1zXo3YWSv
Brooks says Stralman should file for arbitration by the Thursday deadline.

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Brooks says Stralman should file for arbitration by the Thursday deadline.
Sounds good. Sign Stralman and Fedotenko to reasonable deals ASAP. Plus add some new AHL bodies for Hartford. This would leave 3 slots open on the big club, one D and two fwds. Plus an eventual call up during Gaboriks absence. With a lot of cap space available. Then wait and see. Opportunities will arise...

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He has a point.

I am definitely in the go-for-it-all right now mood. We have a 3-4 year window with Hank and BR in their prime, some of the younger players being cheap etc. Look at Parise going to Pitt. Detroit is not even attractive any more. Players are willing to do alot to get a chance at the cup. Its not unrealistic at all that we all of a sudden is a 6th overall in the East team that lost in the first round, again almost, team after this season if we do not do something. Resulting in many players rather going to Philly or Pitt than NY. While the diffrence between that and going all the way very well could be a couple of first round picks that has a 30% chance of helping us 4-5 years from now, if not 5-6 years.

But many players won't help us. And ending up with a Ville Leino type of contract would set us back for years. Somewhere along the line you just try to fill holes. And we do got one hole up front.

Zucc got a NHL-out clause. Slats should give him a call. I much rather see him then us overpaying 4m for someone who probably will become the next Wolski.

I like Hemsky. If he only had one year left on his contract, he could also have been a good option. Now he got two years and he is definitely a gamble.

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Brooks says Stralman should file for arbitration by the Thursday deadline.
I am not suprised at all. I know Stralman is a family man, but the SEL just don't sound like a great alternative for him. Its not "hot" league right now with the KHL taking the best of the rest and many going to the NHL. Its just too early for him to settle down in Sweden, and going to the KHL with a family shouldn't be a option. NY ought to be pretty alright.

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Interesting take on the Flyers offer for Parise

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I think Holmgren is playing a gutsy game of poker here, making sure the cash-strapped Devils pay well to keep their captain, or making sure the Penguins fill as much of their recently opened cap space to sign him. Little or no cap room at the start of the season means little or no wiggle room to repair your roster when those upper-body and lower-body injuries occur midseason
Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...#ixzz1zYQRdZTG

Pittsburgh needs Suter more than Parise. Suter doesn't want to play there. Pittsburgh doesn't need more offense. Scoring goals is not a problem for them.

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The Wings have about $17 million in salary cap space, but $5 million of that is earmarked to re-sign restricted free agents Justin Abdelkader and Kyle Quincey. Teams can go 10% over the $70.2-million salary cap as long as they're compliant by the start of the season. However, because a new collective bargaining agreement has to be negotiated, the Wings are bearing in mind that the cap could change.
http://www.freep.com/article/2012070...404/1053/rss17

Change as in decreasing from $70.2M. You look at the teams with most money committed for next season. Boston can put Savard on long term IR. The Thomas 35 plus contract depends upon the CBA. VAN can free up the money by trading Luongo. Calgary can free up the dollars trading Bouwmeester. If Chicago signs Parise,they will need to dump $$$.

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The source also said that, if the Hawks were to sign Parise, a significant move to make room under the salary cap “seems inevitable.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hocke...ch-parise.html

NO part of Sharp. He has NMC. Some type of NTC. He is beginning the 1st year of a 5 year extension. Good player. $5.9M cap hit. He will be 31 this December.

If Chicago wants to dump Kane's $6.3M,different story.

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07-03-2012, 06:53 AM
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This one made me laugh.

Right now, Pittsburgh isn't as good a team as they were last year. They just traded away two high end NHL players. They've got plenty of cap space but they just traded away their best defensive defenseman.

As of this moment, the Red Wings are down two of their top three defensemen including perhaps the best defenseman to play in the last 30 years.

And I guess that's not a hole the Flyers have in goal -- it's a canyon. Not to mention that they got fleeced in the Schenn/JVR trade.

Parise and Suter can't sign with 4 different teams.

Let the pot simmer -- there's going to be a lot of shuffling this summer and I wouldn't be surprised if Sather has a trick or two up his sleeve.
Four defensemen and 9 forwards.

The problem is that Pittsburgh's holes and Philly's holes are not as prominent.

They have the best forward in the game and behind him they have a Hart winner.

Rangers have four defensemen... Bickel isn't going from four minutes to fifteen.

They need a top six winger and two depth forwards.

Rangers problems are larger than those teams.

Someone made a joke about Philly and Pittsburgh content winning 9-7. We will be losing 3-0 unless we fill two spots on D with guys who can play.

And trotting Asham and Rupp out there together and watching them get pinned in their own end while our top four defense that's already going to be over worked and Henrik who is going to be over worked...is less of a hole?

Rupp and Asham are not everyday players. They're not. Especially not at the same time.

Two slow and skill-less guys are going to lumber the puck up ice against, no doubt, opposition's more skilled forwards? Its a disaster waiting to happen. Prust's speed saved Boyle and Rupp's ass countless times.

Some of you are ridiculous. Yeah, they should spend the day today doing nothing. Don't improve the team...

Give me a ****ing break.

Address the blatant holes. Nash isn't going anywhere.

Im not asking for the moon. Nash, Parise, Semin, Ryan, Yandle...

Im asking for depth guys that are cheap enough.

Pyatt, Stralman, Fedotenko (or someone else that can kill penalties and play his heart out), and another defenseman.

Four players. Cheap. Fill the holes.


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07-03-2012, 06:59 AM
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Brooks says Stralman should file for arbitration by the Thursday deadline.
I can't tell you how happy this makes me.

Stralman was a diamond in the rough. Guy can play. And he's young.

If we can lock him up for three years that would be outstanding.

However...arbitration hearings are not pretty. Don't want the Rangers reps slandering Stralman in a court basically... File for arbitration but don't let it get to arbitration.

File is by Thursday, when are the hearings?

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The Rangers are well positioned to take on a salary cap dump. They have room and the assets as long as the assets aren't Kreider,Stepan or McDonagh.

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And we do know, or expect, that once they do land the dominoes start to tumble and perhaps Glen Sather can get onto acquiring Rick Nash … that is, if Columbus GM Scott Howson can find an acceptable deal that doesn’t include Chris Kreider or Derek Stepan (apparently, according to reports out of Ohio, Ryan McDonagh is not a “must” in the offer/demand; the Jackets aren’t necessarily looking for a D-man).
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Columbus wants forwards. They want Kreider as part of the deal. JVR had to be part of the Philly deal for Nash before he was traded to TO. Howson probably wants Stepan too.

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Teams have inquired about Dubinsky as a center. Dearth of centers. Attempt to extract a big price for Dubinsky. When Joker is commanding $4.5M in free agency,you know the market stinks. Teams are looking for centers with size.

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No to Fedostinko, we have enough slow guys on the team, Boyle, Rupp, Asham, to name a few, adding him to that bottom 6 makes us even slower

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Stralman files for salary arbitration on the 5th. The hearings begin later this month. The Rangers will sign the player before the hearing. We have seen this situation before with the Rangers and arbitration. The hearing date creates a timeline to get the contract done. The Rangers had 4 arb cases last July. Dubinsky,Callahan,Boyle and Sauer. All of the cases were settled before the hearing. Del Zotto is not eligible for salary arbitation. That one may linger for a while. AA signed early last summer and he was not eligible for arbitration. Staal lingered in 2010. Dubinsky in 2009. They didn't sign until September.

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No to Fedostinko, we have enough slow guys on the team, Boyle, Rupp, Asham, to name a few, adding him to that bottom 6 makes us even slower
If there's another guy out there, fine with me.

Pyatt and someone else. Not sure who is out there. Other than Mueller.

Pyatt and Mueller. Should be affordable.


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Meanwhile, interest from Nash’s approved clubs — Detroit, the New York Rangers, Philadelphia and San Jose — has been tepid in recent days, partly because the league is waiting to see where Parise lands.

The Flyers and Red Wings have made offers, but Parise is said to be leaning toward staying with New Jersey, joining Sidney Crosby in Pittsburgh or heading home to play for the Minnesota Wild.
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The interest has been lukewarm because of the asking price.

Stop blaming Parise. Stop blaming Ryan. Columbus keeps looking for excuses.

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Stralman files for salary arbitration on the 5th. The hearings begin later this month. The Rangers will sign the player before the hearing. We have seen this situation before with the Rangers and arbitration. The hearing date creates a timeline to get the contract done. The Rangers had 4 arb cases last July. Dubinsky,Callahan,Boyle and Sauer. All of the cases were settled before the hearing. Del Zotto is not eligible for salary arbitation. That one may linger for a while. AA signed early last summer and he was not eligible for arbitration. Staal lingered in 2010. Dubinsky in 2009. They didn't sign until September.
My concern wasn't about waiting with the arbitration stuff.

My concern was they were going to let him walk.

With this news, now, Im happy. It shows the attention is there for him. The guy came in busted his ass for this team, and has a big decision to make that will effect his family, giving the guy a little attention goes a long way in helping make that decision more clearly.

Now address the other hole on defense. And get two depth forwards. Pyatt and Mueller.

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no one wants Jagr back?

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Don't think the Rangers do.

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If there's another guy out there, fine with me.

Pyatt and someone else. Not sure who is out there. Other than Mueller.

Pyatt and Mueller. Should be affordable.
Pyatt? Yuck. What does he bring to the team other than unfulfilled potential and frustration?

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Pyatt? Yuck. What does he bring to the team other than unfulfilled potential and frustration?
Thank you. **** all over Asham, yet peddle a heartless 3rd line player.

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Signings
  • One of Doan, Jagr or Selanne
  • A typical Sather reclamation project in one of Mueller or Huselius (same price offered to both of them on short deals)
  • Fedotenko or Pyatt
  • A RH defenseman - God knows who though
  • Resign our RFAs Stralman and MDZ to reasonable deals
  • A replacement for JAM in Hartford plus a few more bodies down there (2 defensemen + two fwds)

If we could achieve the above I would call it quite a successful off-season (other than Gabbys surgery)
Then just wait for Howson to return to earth
If not - move on to next option (B Ryan...)
Or just wait... there will be juicy future opportunities
Patience


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Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Peter Mueller or Kristian Huselius (MAX $2.400m)
Mike Rupp ($1.500m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Arron Asham ($1.000m) or one of Ruslan Fedotenko - Tom Pyatt (MAX $1.600m)

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Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.400m)
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I wish the Rangers took Jagr back for 1 year, he worked great with dubi. Maybe he can get him back going again.. We have a young team, why not get a vet as our top 6 who was still able to produce last year.. sure he doesnt have wheels, but u cant knock that guy off the puck, hes good on the PP, and plays our style of hockey playing off the boards. i just love to wear my jagr jersey one last time..

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Stralman coming back would be huge. He'd probably still be going balls to the wall bcuz he will sign a one or two year deal. Sign a vet stay at home type for the third pairing.

McD - Girardi
Staal - Stralman
MDZ - Vet Dman
Bickel

If MDZ gets packaged for an upgrade up front, slot Erixon in his place. Hopefully Sauer can come back by January and the Rangers can ease him back in.

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I'm ok with Stralman as long as he's on the third pair

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Lets sign Steve Nash.. He's from Canada. and can help both NY franchises out.

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Lets sign Steve Nash.. He's from Canada. and can help both NY franchises out.
Hell no he is way too old, that's a dark ages signing if I've ever seen one.

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Stralman coming back would be huge. He'd probably still be going balls to the wall bcuz he will sign a one or two year deal. Sign a vet stay at home type for the third pairing.

McD - Girardi
Staal - Stralman
MDZ - Vet Dman
Bickel

If MDZ gets packaged for an upgrade up front, slot Erixon in his place. Hopefully Sauer can come back by January and the Rangers can ease him back in.
I don't think D is a big issue. If they dont like a FA then just keep it as is and try DZ on the Right Side with Staal. McD, Girardi together again. Erixon may win a spot, Stralman can fill in for Sauer till he's ready and Bickel is the 25th man on the roster only playing when they want to goon it up

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I don't think D is a big issue. If they dont like a FA then just keep it as is and try DZ on the Right Side with Staal. McD, Girardi together again. Erixon may win a spot, Stralman can fill in for Sauer till he's ready and Bickel is the 25th man on the roster only playing when they want to goon it up
MDZ isn't really the player I'd want to experiment on playing on the right side. He isn't the best defensively on his natural side, although playing with Staal might offset that. Would solve a lot of problems.

McD - Girardi
Staal - MDZ
Erixon - Stralman
Bickel

Don't know how I feel about that third pairing though.

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