Wow. Better than gagne? Richards? Betts? Giroux? Lappy? Nodl?
Slightly above par
You should take a look at Giroux's defensive numbers with Carter on his wing, and his numbers without Carter on his wing. Carter won't ever win a Selke, but he's a better two-way player than Giroux for sure.
As for JvR, my main problem with him wasn't that he didn't produce as much offensively as we'd expected last year, but that he didn't round out his game more. He's got the tools to be efficient on the backcheck, but he's far too often caught staring at the puck and forgetting about his own man. I still wish we hadn't traded him though.
He played quite a lot of his time with the Flyers with Giroux as the center. The JvR-Giroux-Carter line was pretty decent. He was also on a line with Richards and Versteeg (or Nödl) for some time that year (10-11) iirc. In 09-10 I want to say that his most common linemates were Giroux and Asham, but I'm not so sure there. This past season he started out with Giroux and Jagr, but that line didn't click. JvR was left out of it pretty much, Giroux and Jagr were looking to set each other up all the time. Hartnell was more of a fit for that role than JvR is. Due to JvR's injury problems he never really found consistent linemates after that, but he played some time with Brière (or Schenn) and Simmonds, I believe.
Yeah, pretty much what everyone is saying. The effort is there but he doesn't seem to have the tools quite yet to be a solid defensive forward. Doesn't win a heck of a lot of board battles, but he puts effort in and sticks with his man for the most part.
You will usually never see him loafing it on the backcheck, so that already makes him better than a big chunk of forwards in the NHL. With coaching he can probably be decent defensively, it seems he just never got a real chance to develop that part of his game here due to injury and whatnot.
Then again, the first time JVR has one of those dominant offensive games where he looks like a man amongst boys, you won't care about his defensive play. You'll just be wondering why he can't maintain the dominance consistently.
Really wish we didn't trade him, you're getting a good player and a solid guy.
I've never thought hockey sense to be one of JVR's strengths, and I think that contributes to his "meh" defensive play. He isn't a dog in his own zone, but he will get caught standing around and following the puck instead of his man.
You're banking on JVR for his offensive ability, not his two-way play.
Watch him the entire play (LW) lackadaisical, all over the place. His man creeps in and scores. Not saying he's always like this, but when asked about his backchecking/defense, this is now implanted in my brain.
Didn't he have an abdominal injury, just come back from a broken foot and was skating through a hip injury at that point in time?