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07-04-2012, 02:31 AM
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I think we're a top line winger (would have loved Jagr, but alas) and playoff warrior-type defenseman away from a pretty interesting lineup:

Pacioretty - Plekanec - ??? (wouldn't be surprised if Leblanc impresses enough next camp to get a shot here)
Bourque - Desharnais - Cole
Prust - Eller - Gionta
Moen - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Markov - Gorges
Emelin - Subban
Kaberle - ???
Diaz

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07-04-2012, 03:00 AM
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I think we're a top line winger (would have loved Jagr, but alas) and playoff warrior-type defenseman away from a pretty interesting lineup:

Pacioretty - Plekanec - ??? (wouldn't be surprised if Leblanc impresses enough next camp to get a shot here)
Bourque - Desharnais - Cole
Prust - Eller - Gionta
Moen - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Markov - Gorges
Emelin - Subban
Kaberle - ???
Diaz

Price
Desjardins
I concur, but find the Bouillon and Budaj omissions peculiar.

I like the looks of that lineup, too (insofar as what Montreal could actually ice--I'd like the look of it more without a couple of players!)

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07-04-2012, 03:48 AM
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Time for a new lineup thread. If the season would start tomorrow, I guess this is what we would have

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gionta-Plekanec-Bourque
Armstrong-Eller-Gomez
White-Prust-Moen
Nokalenin

Emelin-Subban
Markov-Gorges
Kaberle-Bouillon
Diaz

Price
Budaj
.Not bad lineup....but if Gomez is still with us he need to play at center. Can Eller play wing?

.that fourth line is sexy

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07-04-2012, 06:14 AM
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I would be hugely surprised if Gomez is asked to play wing to Eller,or anyone for that matter,at least not until halfway through the season.

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07-04-2012, 07:45 AM
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Gomez I think will be given a chance to prove himself especially under a new coach and new system. Martin's system was dump and chase, which Gomez is not, Gill & Spacek even said it in post season interviews with Dave Stubbs.

Opening Lineup:

Pacioretty - DD - Cole
Eller - Pleks - Gionta
Bourque - Gomez - Moen
Armstrong - White - Prust
Noke - Blunden

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Kaberle - Bouillion
Diaz

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07-04-2012, 08:23 AM
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Gomez I think will be given a chance to prove himself especially under a new coach and new system. Martin's system was dump and chase, which Gomez is not, Gill & Spacek even said it in post season interviews with Dave Stubbs.

Opening Lineup:

Pacioretty - DD - Cole
Eller - Pleks - Gionta
Bourque - Gomez - Moen
Armstrong - White - Prust
Noke - Blunden

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Kaberle - Bouillion
Diaz

Price
Budaj
Unless they sign a lot of offensive talent up front(making Gomez an automatic "burial") they'll have no choice but to play a grinding/defensive style game.

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07-04-2012, 08:25 AM
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Gomez I think will be given a chance to prove himself especially under a new coach and new system. Martin's system was dump and chase, which Gomez is not, Gill & Spacek even said it in post season interviews with Dave Stubbs.
When he carries it in he makes the same play over and over.Defencemen allow him to carry it over because he always passes off then disappears,all they have to do is check his wingers.The only way he gets points is if he centers Paccioretty and Cole.

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07-04-2012, 08:32 AM
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Do people think Leblanc isn't ready or something? I would be very surprised if he wasn't on the team

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07-04-2012, 08:36 AM
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Do people think Leblanc isn't ready or something? I would be very surprised if he wasn't on the team
He's ready to play in the NHL as a third liner but most people would rather see him put up a ton of points and play big minutes in the AHL to help improve his offense.

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07-04-2012, 08:40 AM
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Do people think Leblanc isn't ready or something? I would be very surprised if he wasn't on the team
Where do you slot him? He clearly doesn't have a spot on the 4th line. Moen is a lock for the 3rd line, and given a good camp, Armstrong could maybe end up there. Eller, Bourque and even Gomez are contenders for that line. Plekanec and Gionta are locks for the 2nd line, and the remaining spot will go to Bourque or Eller (or Gomez ). Leblanc doesn't have a chance in hell to crack the Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole line.

So what is left? Leadership role for the influx of rookies in Hamilton. That is vastly superior than sharing a wing with Bourque and log 8-10 minutes per night.

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I see Leblanc on the 3rd line with Eller and Gomez can go **** off.

Something like:

Pac-DD-Cole
Gio-Plek-Bourque
Leblanc-Eller-Moen
Armstrong - White - Prust
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07-04-2012, 08:46 AM
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I see Leblanc on the 3rd line with Eller and Gomez can go **** off.

Something like:

Pac-DD-Cole
Gio-Plek-Bourque
Leblanc-Eller-Moen
Armstrong - White - Prust
Noke
Gomez will only be advised to **** off if his cap hit can be used on better assets or if the cap drops with the new CBA. I'd rather endure Gomez for 2 years than create another long-term problem via the UFA market or trade prospects/picks for a patching job.

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07-04-2012, 08:47 AM
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With our current team, I'd go with -

Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta
Havlat - Desharnais - Cole
Moen - Eller - Armstrong
Prust - Nokelainen - White

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Boullion - Kaberle

It looks like Havlat for Bourque + Diaz or something similar may be an option.

We need to bed in Tinordi, Beaulieu, Leblanc, Bournival and Galchenyuk the following year. We'll need to find a taker for Gionta:

Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Desharnais
Havlat - Plekanec - Cole
Moen - Eller - Leblanc
Prust - Bournival - White

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Tinordi - Beaulieu

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07-04-2012, 08:48 AM
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Gomez I think will be given a chance to prove himself especially under a new coach and new system. Martin's system was dump and chase, which Gomez is not, Gill & Spacek even said it in post season interviews with Dave Stubbs.

Opening Lineup:

Pacioretty - DD - Cole
Eller - Pleks - Gionta
Bourque - Gomez - Moen
Armstrong - White - Prust
Noke - Blunden

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Kaberle - Bouillion
Diaz

Price
Budaj
I would say this is pretty close to what we are looking at maybe swap Armstrong and Moen and Kaberle and Diaz

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07-04-2012, 08:51 AM
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You dump Gomez, you sign AK for 1-2 years. He's probably realized by now what he's worth in the GM's eyes around the league.

I know we say we need "character", but I believe the recent additions to our bottom 6 already took care of that. With Therrien as a new coach, he'll make AK skate.

Either put AK with Plek and Gionta, or maybe move him with Desharnais and put Patch with Plek.

AK-DD-Cole
Gio-Plek-Patch
Bourque-Eller-Moen
Prust-White-Armstrong

You have a really heavy bottom 6 right there.

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07-04-2012, 09:07 AM
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You dump Gomez, you sign AK for 1-2 years. He's probably realized by now what he's worth in the GM's eyes around the league.

I know we say we need "character", but I believe the recent additions to our bottom 6 already took care of that. With Therrien as a new coach, he'll make AK skate.

Either put AK with Plek and Gionta, or maybe move him with Desharnais and put Patch with Plek.

AK-DD-Cole
Gio-Plek-Patch
Bourque-Eller-Moen
Prust-White-Armstrong

You have a really heavy bottom 6 right there.
AK is worth $6M+ in the KHL. Tax free. In his native land (close to it, meh). He is gone.

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07-04-2012, 09:16 AM
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I'm not particularly in love with the player but why oh why is Weber gone from everyone line up? he's sign to a one way contract and i'm pretty sure he'll start the season in MTL if he's still there at training camp. So unless he his being trade, which as not been suggest he should be there

as of today my roster is:

Price
Budaj

Markov
Subban
Kaberle
Gorges
Bouillon
Emelin
Diaz
Weber

Gomez
Gionta
Bourque
Desharnais
Max-Pac
Plekanec
Cole
Eller
Moen
White
Prust
Armstrong
Nokelainen

that's 23 players, the maximum allowed and if an emergency situation would come up, Weber can be use as an extra forward, we all know that....

of course it may all change with trades or decisions (gomez, Kaberle in minors) put right now, that's my roster....

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07-04-2012, 09:22 AM
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AK is worth $6M+ in the KHL. Tax free. In his native land (close to it, meh). He is gone.
That's a stupid thing to say. So what if he is? He'll sign the deal, and we don't consider him any further.

But maybe he won't. I sure don't want a bidding war against the KHL, but if AK accepts a contract with us, for whatever reason he damn wants, I won't be mad.

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I would say:

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Armstrong
Moen - Nokelainen - Prust
White

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Weber - Bouillon
Kaberle

Price
Budaj

I can see truth behind these rumors about Havlat or Marleau to Montreal

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What you need to understand, is that we won't be winning anything until ATLEAST one more year... Maybe we'll make the playoffs. But unless we have a 09 .. I don't see us getting through the first round. So let's think developement first. Again i'll come with my bull crap about desharnais to the wing. It'd be simple to keep him on the center, I hear you. But Bergy seems to be on the Gomer side...

If we don't do it, we funk up Eller's developement. (The big center, skilled center we we're looking for since 2000.)
Patches-Plekanec-Gionta
Desharnais-Eller-Cole
Armstrong-Gome$-Bourque
Moen-White-Prust
Noke
Injury callup -Leblanc -Gallagher -Nattinen.
You could swap Gio and Cole..But I think we'd get a much better production like this. Our two first line might have 6 20+ goals scorer while our third line could produce 3 10-20 goals scorer. I still think Gome$ stinks... but we gotta work with him.. And also I know for a fact that he still has it in him. (Remember that play with Michael Freaking Blunden where he fed him one pass, blunden misses, takes the puck again.. makes the same play to blunden, bam, Goal! Those kinda play says alot. )

Jorge-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Kaberle/Bouillon-Diaz/Weber

For the last pairing, I'd prefer bouillon with one of the three...But we could still bring up Tinordi/Ellis baring a great year in the AHL or even directly at camp... Kaberle/Ellis with weber/Diaz 7th dman would sound good. But Weber/diaz-Tinordi would be better for our developement !

Again we won't be winning anything. Lets develop Tinordi/weber/diaz/Eller.

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07-04-2012, 11:17 AM
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You dump Gomez, you sign AK for 1-2 years. He's probably realized by now what he's worth in the GM's eyes around the league.

I know we say we need "character", but I believe the recent additions to our bottom 6 already took care of that. With Therrien as a new coach, he'll make AK skate.

Either put AK with Plek and Gionta, or maybe move him with Desharnais and put Patch with Plek.

AK-DD-Cole
Gio-Plek-Patch
Bourque-Eller-Moen
Prust-White-Armstrong

You have a really heavy bottom 6 right there.
There is no chance A.Kost is back, he had about 8 years to prove himself with the Habs, the guy has no guts, is an individualist nobody likes in the locker room.. Bergevin is building an hardwork team that will play hard every night and a group that will be united..

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After MB gets both Parise and Suter

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
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FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m)
Travis Moen ($1.850m) / Lars Eller ($1.500m) / Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Michael Bournival ($0.870m) / Ryan White ($0.688m) / Brandon Prust ($2.500m)
Petteri Nokelainen ($0.575m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($8.000m) / Andrei Markov ($5.750m)
P.K. Subban ($4.000m) / Josh Gorges ($3.900m)
Alexei Emelin ($2.000m) / Francis Bouillon ($1.500m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.200m) /
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Dump Gomez, Kaberle and Bourque in Hamilton, or trade if a GM is dumb enough

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Boullion is about as mean as it gets... size doesn't matter, what matters is if he plays big which he does.
Sorry man but Bouillon isn't going to scare anyone

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There is no chance A.Kost is back, he had about 8 years to prove himself with the Habs, the guy has no guts, is an individualist nobody likes in the locker room.. Bergevin is building an hardwork team that will play hard every night and a group that will be united..
You got proof of that?

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Sorry man but Bouillon isn't going to scare anyone
they're grown men no one scares anyone. But if he can be physical, even at 5'8" or whatever he is, he's useful. The size fetish ( ) is getting extreme.

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