HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Will we maintain our status the coming season?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-04-2012, 02:37 AM
  #1
Xtranova
Registered User
 
Xtranova's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lalaland
Posts: 269
vCash: 500
Will we maintain our status the coming season?

By looking at the free agency mayhem so far, and taking notes on the other eastern teams. Will we keep our position the coming season? With our new guys in (so far), are we a better team than last year? I'm somehow slightly concerned to be honest. Just a gut feeling :/

Semin, Nash, anyone?

Xtranova is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 02:50 AM
  #2
theJUMPER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 902
vCash: 500
Worried about Gaborik missing til December.

I'm a big believer in you have to lose in order to win, and that ECF taught this team something. I expect the Rangers to come out firing.

Pittsburgh is weaker w/o Staal, Philly was exposed by the Devils...

those are the 2 scariest teams in the East and they are weaker. I think it is our conference to control.

theJUMPER is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 02:57 AM
  #3
Swagelin
aka Bienvenue a ny
 
Swagelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Country: Italy
Posts: 1,760
vCash: 500
Pitt got worse by losing Staal.
Devils are potentially going to be worse if Parise leaves.
Flyers stayed the same.
Islanders stayed the same.

I think getting to the ECF gave alot of our younger players experience which is only going to make us better next year. The only concerns I have are:
1. Gaborik's injury.
2. If all the talk of Nash/Suter/Parise going to Pitt of Philly comes true.

Swagelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 03:01 AM
  #4
BBKers
Registered User
 
BBKers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Koster, Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 5,611
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to BBKers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Sauer View Post
Pitt got worse by losing Staal.
Devils are potentially going to be worse if Parise leaves.
Flyers stayed the same.
Islanders stayed the same.

I think getting to the ECF gave alot of our younger players experience which is only going to make us better next year. The only concerns I have are:
1. Gaborik's injury.
2. If all the talk of Nash/Suter/Parise going to Pitt of Philly comes true.
If Nash goes to Pitt/Philly but we could snag Ryan AND Doan, smirk smirk

BBKers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 03:04 AM
  #5
NY Lito
Blueshirt Pride
 
NY Lito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 935
vCash: 500
I think we're good.

IMO biggest threat will be the Bruins. Rask will have a fire under his ass, as will the rest of the team after going out in the first round.

Flyers will be better. Devils will be about the same, regardless of Parise (lot of young guys only getting better for them), but I doubt they make it to the ECF, let alone Cup. Not worried about the Penguins.

Dark horse? Ottawa. Think they could give more than a scare to teams in the playoffs next year.

All in all I expect us to finish 4th-5th, as Gabby being out will hurt... a lot. But, I expect us to be in roaring form come playoff time. I'm expecting at least another trip to the ECF. Especially if we add a Nash/Doan/etc.

NY Lito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 03:28 AM
  #6
mike14
Registered User
 
mike14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Melbourne
Country: Australia
Posts: 4,289
vCash: 500
I don'r expect to win the division again, especially with Gabby missing for a few months.

- Pens have lost Staal, which hurts their depth (assuming no Parise), but they should get a full season out of Crosby
- Flyers have strengthened their goaltending by adding Vokun
- Devils could be in a bit of strife if they lose Parise and can't replace him. Although we say it every year... how much longer can Marty go on for?

Obviously still plenty of FAs and trades to come. A big part of the Ranger plan seems to be expecting (hoping) the young guys such as Stepan, Hags and Kreider to continue to develop. If they can do that and our D can achieve like they did last season, top 6 in the conference and hard-fought 2nd round should be achievable


Last edited by mike14: 07-04-2012 at 03:30 AM. Reason: damn spelling
mike14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 03:44 AM
  #7
Ola
Registered User
 
Ola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 17,288
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Sauer View Post
Pitt got worse by losing Staal.
Devils are potentially going to be worse if Parise leaves.
Flyers stayed the same.
Islanders stayed the same.

I think getting to the ECF gave alot of our younger players experience which is only going to make us better next year. The only concerns I have are:
1. Gaborik's injury.
2. If all the talk of Nash/Suter/Parise going to Pitt of Philly comes true.
Great point, it seems like 3-4 teams around this league will be really improved this off-season. But of the 29 teams we play, the competition itself of course won't be harder and while potentially two teams in our division might improve alot, others of course will get worse.

Ola is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 05:05 AM
  #8
darko
Registered User
 
darko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Australia
Posts: 29,987
vCash: 500
Pens and Flyers will be good again. IMO between those 2 and Rangers anyone can win the division.

darko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 06:08 AM
  #9
Superstar Carwash
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Country: Sweden
Posts: 211
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike14 View Post
I don'r expect to win the division again, especially with Gabby missing for a few months.

- Pens have lost Staal, which hurts their depth (assuming no Parise), but they should get a full season out of Crosby
- Flyers have strengthened their goaltending by adding Vokun
- Devils could be in a bit of strife if they lose Parise and can't replace him. Although we say it every year... how much longer can Marty go on for?

Obviously still plenty of FAs and trades to come. A big part of the Ranger plan seems to be expecting (hoping) the young guys such as Stepan, Hags and Kreider to continue to develop. If they can do that and our D can achieve like they did last season, top 6 in the conference and hard-fought 2nd round should be achievable
Vokoun was signed by Pens, not Flyers.

Superstar Carwash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 06:28 AM
  #10
eco's bones
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Elmira NY
Country: United States
Posts: 12,279
vCash: 500
The main thing is to make the playoffs and without a big scramble at the end.

I like the additions of Asham, Haley and Pyatt. They are more physical players. IMO the Rangers got into three grind it out playoff series and the physicality of those series eventually wore us down. New Jersey's 3rd and 4th lines were particularly effective against us. Wingers like Zubrus, Ponikarovsky, Carter, Clarkson, Bernier kept the puck deep in our end and kept on grinding. This was the forecheck Devils fans were talking about and they were right--it was used effectively against us.

People are rightly concerned about more offense and finding a second pairing right side defenseman. The options right now aren't that good. Sather and Gorton are fixing what they can--keeping in mind that every team no matter how good have weaknesses they are trying to fix as well.

Gaborik will be back. I also expect improvement from a number of younger Rangers and a bounce back season from Dubinsky if he's still around. A better year from Artie would be nice though I'm not sure he's peaked already. And there's Kreider--who still is kind of an unknown factor.

Rangers found ways to win last year. 20 games of playoff experience is a really good thing for our younger guys. The team made a good run and this is something that gives guys like Stepan, Kreider, MDZ, McD, Hagelin etc. a real idea of what it takes and should make them all hungrier. These are all guys who should or will soon be able to carry their own load without any help.

eco's bones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 08:22 AM
  #11
JayQueensNY88*
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,185
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKers View Post
If Nash goes to Pitt/Philly but we could snag Ryan AND Doan, smirk smirk
Ryan and Doan...man,i could only hope!!!

JayQueensNY88* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 08:31 AM
  #12
Kreider Typical
flex
 
Kreider Typical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,541
vCash: 500
the experience of this year will either make or break us.

Kreider Typical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 08:54 AM
  #13
Dorado*
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brooklyn ,USA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,819
vCash: 500
A lot of it depends upon injuries .
Expecting the 6 goalie defense to stay as healthy as it did every year is a stretch .
Also Either Mcdonagh is really Robo Cop or he is bound to eventually miss a few more as he took a ton of head shots and close calls last season .

Dorado* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 09:01 AM
  #14
SingnBluesOnBroadway
Retired
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 29,779
vCash: 500
Awards:
I think we all learned that you don't need to finish first to make a run in the playoffs. The best team in the regular season is no lock to make the Cup final or win it. It's the team that's playing best going into the playoffs.

With Hank, the Rangers are going to have a chance against anyone. They need to improve their power play.

__________________
SingnBluesOnBroadway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 09:02 AM
  #15
Shadowtron
Registered User
 
Shadowtron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,509
vCash: 500
This team also went 21-20 from March until the end of Game 6. I'm curious as to what people make of that, since it doesn't really seem to factor into the predictions. Were they just a tired team, or is it an unsettling trend that could find its way into the upcoming season?

Shadowtron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 09:05 AM
  #16
Tawnos
Moderator
BoH Mod Only
 
Tawnos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 11,276
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowtron View Post
This team also went 21-20 from March until the end of Game 6. I'm curious as to what people make of that, since it doesn't really seem to factor into the predictions. Were they just a tired team, or is it an unsettling trend that could find its way into the upcoming season?
I think it was pretty obvious that they were tired.

Depends on what is meant by maintaining status. Will we win the division and/or finish first in the East? Unlikely. Will we still be contenders? Yes.

Tawnos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 09:06 AM
  #17
SingnBluesOnBroadway
Retired
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 29,779
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowtron View Post
This team also went 21-20 from March until the end of Game 6. I'm curious as to what people make of that, since it doesn't really seem to factor into the predictions. Were they just a tired team, or is it an unsettling trend that could find its way into the upcoming season?
They were tired but I think it's more mathematical than that. Their record almost doesn't make sense especially when you consider the drop in production for guys like Boyle, Dubinsky, Anisimov. Missing Sauer and Staal for extended periods of time also didn't help. Look at their record in 1-goal games it was extraordinary. And almost inexplicable. Maybe the playoffs was just the odds evening themselves out and a mathematical correction.

SingnBluesOnBroadway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 09:10 AM
  #18
darko
Registered User
 
darko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Australia
Posts: 29,987
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowtron View Post
This team also went 21-20 from March until the end of Game 6. I'm curious as to what people make of that, since it doesn't really seem to factor into the predictions. Were they just a tired team, or is it an unsettling trend that could find its way into the upcoming season?

My guess is tired. They had a brutal stretch in March, something like 18 games in 30 days.

darko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 09:14 AM
  #19
Ave Maria
New Season New Dream
 
Ave Maria's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Westchester,NY
Country: Italy
Posts: 2,438
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to Ave Maria
We have to worry about the Sens, Jets, and Bruins imo. I say these teams because the first two teams are extremely young and have gotten better this offseason and could progress into contending teams in a few years. As Boston goes, I know we were 3-1 against them but we still made them close games and could have swung either way.

Ave Maria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:26 AM
  #20
frankthefrowner
Registered User
 
frankthefrowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,654
vCash: 500
I didnt expect them to be where the they ended up this year...i think we will be a middle of the pack team this year...

frankthefrowner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:26 AM
  #21
Rocinante
Registered User
 
Rocinante's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Country: United States
Posts: 20
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by darko View Post
My guess is tired. They had a brutal stretch in March, something like 18 games in 30 days.
Same situation is on the schedule this year as well...

Rocinante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:28 AM
  #22
Rocinante
Registered User
 
Rocinante's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Country: United States
Posts: 20
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankthefrowner View Post
I didnt expect them to be where the they ended up this year...i think we will be a middle of the pack team this year...
Even if we don't get Nash/Ryan, we're better than that.

Rocinante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:29 AM
  #23
darko
Registered User
 
darko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Australia
Posts: 29,987
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
Same situation is on the schedule this year as well...
3 games less next March. 15 games in 30 days.

darko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:32 AM
  #24
Tawnos
Moderator
BoH Mod Only
 
Tawnos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 11,276
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
Same situation is on the schedule this year as well...
Actually, it's more evenly spread this year:

Oct: 8
Nov: 14
Dec: 12
Jan: 13
Feb: 13
Mar: 15
Apr: 7

Last year they had months of 15 and 17 games in December and March respectively.

But the combination of so many games combined with the overplaying of some of the D earlier in the season

Tawnos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:36 AM
  #25
frankthefrowner
Registered User
 
frankthefrowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,654
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
Even if we don't get Nash/Ryan, we're better than that.
Middle of the pack is 4-6 to me.. and unless your 1 in the division your gonna be middle of the pack

frankthefrowner is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.