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06-25-2012, 11:38 AM
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Too old, he is a 1992, 2013 WJC is for 1993 or younger.
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Nygren???

Any details on this guy and why he isn't at either of the 2 camps so far? I thought he might be a good prospect with good size, good numbers, big shot. Maybe he'll be at the rookie camp in Sept?

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06-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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Maybe he'll be at the rookie camp in Sept?
That would seem unlikely unless the Habs sign him before then as camps in the SEL will be getting started.

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06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
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That would seem unlikely unless the Habs sign him before then as camps in the SEL will be getting started.

Did he participate in 1 of the development camps last year? I can't remember.

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Did he participate in 1 of the development camps last year? I can't remember.
Yes, he came in July after we drafted him.

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06-27-2012, 08:10 PM
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I think we have the management in place to create competition and incentives for the guys who shine to get icetime with the big club...

More importantly, I hope we have the management in place to take their time and not only reward guys put also put them through their paces. Make them pay some dues. Guy *** Lafleur wasn't helped by being rushed into the spotlight. Who is? Some guys you can't stop, but what is the harm in trying to slow them down, as an organizational principle?

Also. Get off my lawn.

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06-28-2012, 11:52 AM
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The kids are alright

I don't have any expectations coming into next season. We don't have the team that could challenge for a Cup. With new management, is there room for new players?
I recall a few years ago when management brought in 7 young players to the roster which included Plekanec, Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Streit etc. Why don't we bring the kids up this year and let them mature in the league? They will gain experience like Carey Price and let the kids develop chemistry with the younger players on the roster.

Alex Galchenyuk
Nathan Beaulieu
Jarrod Tinordi
Morgan Ellis
Brenden Gallagher
Patrick Holland

I think we should bring these guys up next season (maybe not start the season but bring them up and give them a shot.

Trade Rene Bourque, Aaron Palushaj, Tomas Kaberle and Raphael Diaz. Demote Scott Gomez. I don't think management will bring back Petteri Nokelainen, Travis Moen, Brad Staubitz, Mathieu Darche, Mike Blunden and Chris Campoli.

We have many spots open for opportunities.

This is a younger and more hungry line combinations.
Pacorietty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher
Geoffrion - White - Holland
Weber

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Ellis

Price
Budaj


If we suck then we get a high pick Nathan Mckinnon, Seth Jones, Hunter Shinkaruk, Anthony Duclair, Jordan Subban, Aleksander Sasha Barkov.

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06-28-2012, 11:57 AM
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Holland havent played a single AHL game yet
and Ellis as 7th D. no thank you. prefer get some development and i'd keep Diaz and wait 1 extra year for beaulieu and or tinordi
I dont disagree with the rest

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06-28-2012, 11:59 AM
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Because early access to the NHL =/= development.

Sending feeble kids to play against the Boston Bruins is probably the least productive thing that we could do to our prospects. Some of them will probably fail as rookies in the AHL. Indeed, it is wishful thinking to believe that all our prospects will adapt well at the pro level.

Change your time frame to years, not weeks. There is no rush, there will be hockey in 3-4 years.

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06-28-2012, 04:08 PM
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Pacorietty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher
Geoffrion - White - Holland
Weber

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Ellis

Price
Budaj


If we suck then we get a high pick Nathan Mckinnon, Seth Jones, Hunter Shinkaruk, Anthony Duclair, Jordan Subban, Aleksander Sasha Barkov.
I confirm, we would suck with that lineup, and it would hurt the progress of our youngters too.

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Pacorietty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher
Geoffrion - White - Holland
Weber

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Ellis

Price
Budaj
Wow. Worst . . . line-up . . . ever

Sure, let's add 6 guys straight from Junior . . .

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06-28-2012, 06:30 PM
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I don't have any expectations coming into next season. We don't have the team that could challenge for a Cup. With new management, is there room for new players?
I recall a few years ago when management brought in 7 young players to the roster which included Plekanec, Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Streit etc. Why don't we bring the kids up this year and let them mature in the league? They will gain experience like Carey Price and let the kids develop chemistry with the younger players on the roster.

Alex Galchenyuk
Nathan Beaulieu
Jarrod Tinordi
Morgan Ellis
Brenden Gallagher
Patrick Holland

I think we should bring these guys up next season (maybe not start the season but bring them up and give them a shot.

Trade Rene Bourque, Aaron Palushaj, Tomas Kaberle and Raphael Diaz. Demote Scott Gomez. I don't think management will bring back Petteri Nokelainen, Travis Moen, Brad Staubitz, Mathieu Darche, Mike Blunden and Chris Campoli.

We have many spots open for opportunities.

This is a younger and more hungry line combinations.
Pacorietty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher
Geoffrion - White - Holland
Weber

Subban - Gorges
Markov - Emelin
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Ellis

Price
Budaj


If we suck then we get a high pick Nathan Mckinnon, Seth Jones, Hunter Shinkaruk, Anthony Duclair, Jordan Subban, Aleksander Sasha Barkov.
This is brilliant! Not only do we guarantee a high draft position in 2013, we also ruin some of our best current prospects by rushing them all int the NHL out of junior, thereby easing the way to have open slots to rush the '13 draft picks straight into the NHL the year after. This is how you keep a team with good young talent in the cellar long term. Garth Snow's got nothin on us.

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06-29-2012, 12:14 PM
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The Habs could conceivably draft in a lottery position again in 2013,if that occurs Timmins could have a true dilemma in his hands.Which player out of all of the centers available would be the best fit with Galchenyuk(C) and Collberg(RW) my choice is Hunter Shinkaruk.Those players all on one line would rival the Edmonton Oilers line of Taylor Hall,Ryan Nugent and Nail Yakupov as the top young line of the future.You just never know the Habs might be able to draft MacKinnon then they might want to add Pacioretty & Galchenyuk.The next few years are going to be exciting for Hab fans no doubting that.

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07-03-2012, 07:18 AM
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You have to love this:

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Alex Galchenyuk
@BradyVail I’m at the rink getting better !

I bet Vail headed straight to the gym after that reply from Galchenyuk.

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07-03-2012, 11:59 AM
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Haha, loving Galchenyuk's personality from everything I've seen/read... I might have to re-engage with twitter to follow these guys.

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07-03-2012, 01:10 PM
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@AGally94 I’m at subway right now.. Where you at??

Alex Galchenyuk
@BradyVail I’m at the rink getting better !

I bet Vail headed straight to the gym after that reply from Galchenyuk.
And then he admitted he wasn't actually at the rink

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07-04-2012, 12:32 PM
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Tinordi on opening night?

Do you guys think Tinordi will make the team out of camp?

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Do you guys think Tinordi will make the team out of camp?
With the signing of Bouillon, we have 8 defensemen with the team. Then, clearly no room for Tinordi at this present...

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No. If he had dominated junior there might be a case, but he clearly still has things to learn before he gets to the NHL.

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All our D prospects have things to learn in the A, and we have many D men in the show already. So I think we should neither see, nor hope to see any of our marquis D prospects on the opening night roster.

Tinordi, Beaulieu, and Ellis all have the potential to have a pretty big impact in the NHL when they get there, so, lets develop them right.

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Do you guys think Tinordi will make the team out of camp?
I would hope not, and would be shocked if so. Personally I like the idea of Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis, Leblanc (hopefully), Gallagher, Bournival, Holland, Quailer, Nattinen, Pateryn all developing in the AHL at the same time as first or second year pros. A number of them could very well end up being impact players for the Habs in the not too disant future. It's an unusally big group of youth/inexerperience to have playing at the same time but should be interesting to see how it pans out as you would hope as they improve/progress that they can help each other out and it could be huge for team chemistry down the road when he have the bulk of these kids as NHL regulars.

I assume the Habs are going to struggle next season, so I'd rather see this group work together in Hamilton in what is hopefully a winning environment, whereas on the Habs it could get ugly if the team repeats last seasons record.

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I would hope not, and would be shocked if so. Personally I like the idea of Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis, Leblanc (hopefully), Gallagher, Bournival, Holland, Quailer, Nattinen, Pateryn all developing in the AHL at the same time as first or second year pros. A number of them could very well end up being impact players for the Habs in the not too disant future. It's an unusally big group of youth/inexerperience to have playing at the same time but should be interesting to see how it pans out as you would hope as they improve/progress that they can help each other out and it could be huge for team chemistry down the road when he have the bulk of these kids as NHL regulars.

I assume the Habs are going to struggle next season, so I'd rather see this group work together in Hamilton in what is hopefully a winning environment, whereas on the Habs it could get ugly if the team repeats last seasons record.
Like you say Montreal having these prospects "all of them" playing together in the AHL and winning will be a huge benefit to them and the Habs when they all graduate to the Canadiens.It can only be a good thing for their development and Bergevin has covered the Habs openings so this can be accomplished.

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Do you guys think Tinordi will make the team out of camp?
No chance IMO. A year or even 2 in Hamilton will be the best thing for his development

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I think Tinordi's first year in the A will be similar to his first year in the O. He may skate well for a big man, but he's gotta adjust to new levels of speed, creativity and physicality.

Same when he makes the NHL. He'll look a little sluggish and bad and people will be like "OMGWTF trade this guy for a 7th"

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