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07-04-2012, 02:13 PM
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MTL/DET - Markov

Was wondering what Detroit fans would be willing to part with for Markov.

He's got a rap as injury prone, but at least one of the long-term injuries really was just bad luck(ankle cut by the skate of Carey Price).

He's one of, if not the best puck moving defenseman in the league when he's healthy. He's great defensively, very smart, and can QB a powerplay.

Obviously, he's a staple in Montreal (and likely our biggest chance at the playoffs), but it's clear the Habs are in a bit of a rebuilding stage.

I think Detroit would benefit most from Markov since he's in a similar mold of Lidstrom. He's obviously not Lidstrom, but when healthy, he's probably as close as you can get.

As for what MTL is looking for? Probably some help on the blueline that's still relatively young or a top-6 forward. The guys must have an 110% compete level to fit in with the new Habs.

Anyway... offers?

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I'd hate to see Markov in Detroit and I doubt we could get fair value for him, I can't see him moved.

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If he's hurt he has no value to other teams.

If he's healthy he has waaaay to much value to us to move him.

Even with Markov we are short a top 4 D so I just don't see a deal being made as it stands.

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07-04-2012, 02:19 PM
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i see some positives in going after markov for sure, but given the injuries, it could be a pretty high-risk plan.

i guess filppula fits in to what the habs want, and kindl could possibly thrive given the right team and right circumstances, but like i said, markov is pretty high-risk. might be a case of too high risk to get fair value.

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i see some positives in going after markov for sure, but given the injuries, it could be a pretty high-risk plan.

i guess filppula fits in to what the habs want, and kindl could possibly thrive given the right team and right circumstances, but like i said, markov is pretty high-risk. might be a case of too high risk to get fair value.
Filppula would definitely fit into what the Habs are looking for, but that's a huge staple taken out of Detroit, is it not? I guess they could still sign Kostitsyn or Semin to try and off-set the loss though.

Kindl is definitely interesting, but I think he'd be more of a "final piece" rather than a main course.

It is definitely high-risk, all things considered but he's just such an amazing player that you have to decide whether it's worth it or not.

I wouldn't want to trade him from MTL, but with the rebuilding going on, if we could get at least fair market value, it might be the smarter thing to do.

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07-04-2012, 02:29 PM
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Filppula would definitely fit into what the Habs are looking for, but that's a huge staple taken out of Detroit, is it not? I guess they could still sign Kostitsyn or Semin to try and off-set the loss though.

Kindl is definitely interesting, but I think he'd be more of a "final piece" rather than a main course.

It is definitely high-risk, all things considered but he's just such an amazing player that you have to decide whether it's worth it or not.

I wouldn't want to trade him from MTL, but with the rebuilding going on, if we could get at least fair market value, it might be the smarter thing to do.
oh for sure. kindl plus extras would never get it done, i shouldn't have thought, unless the extras were our top prospects. flip is coming off a career year and i wouldn't really want to give him up, but in terms of fair value, he may be the only piece that gets it done. we also need a d (or 2) badly now, whereas if we could get semin or doan the flip becomes more expendable. i wouldn't be surprised to see flip, franzen or both dealt in the right situation.
dunno that markov would be the right situation, but if it happened i'd expect a deal based around flip.

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Nope.

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My guess is given his recent streak of injuries he has more value to the Habs than he would get in a trade. Even if they kept him for half a season just to showcase what he has and then dealt him they'd probably be better off.

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give us brendan smith and he's yours.
Smith will not be apart of any package for Nash, Bobby, or any of the defenseman on the market.

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Markov was amazing for us, he's a tremendous player but I think it's time to move on and trade him. The thing is even with Markov we still need a top 4D so if we trade him we would need 2. It would probably get a top 6 and a soon to be ready D prospect.

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Nope.
Then no markov for you.

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No Markov. Way too injured.

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Like Markov has any value right now. I'll give you a conditional 7th on the condition that he plays 75 games.

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Like Markov has any value right now. I'll give you a conditional 7th on the condition that he plays 75 games.
So nothing then?

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This deal only happens at the deadline, if at all. Markov needs to show not only can he stay healthy but that his game has not deteriorated.

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It's not a rap... he is injury prone. He also hasn't been as good as he was after coming back from his last injury.

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I'd give MTL a couple of gift cards and all the lint in my pockets for Markov.

Only way Markov goes to Detroit is if he is part of package Montreal is sending to Detroit.

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Markov would actually be a good 'buy low' option for Detroit, although not without some risk.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that he'll be back next year to full strength...and a healthy Markov is quite easily a top 10 defensman.

But the Habs would be foolish to trade Markov at his current value, best case is to hope he has a good offseason, and comes back strong next year

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I'd give MTL a couple of gift cards and all the lint in my pockets for Markov.

Only way Markov goes to Detroit is if he is part of package Montreal is sending to Detroit.
Like Markov + Gomez for Kronwall?

Even with his injuries Markov is getting way underrated here.

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Like Markov has any value right now. I'll give you a conditional 7th on the condition that he plays 75 games.
If Markov plays 75 games he will be in Norris contention.

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what do detroit fans want for pacioretty.

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It's not a rap... he is injury prone. He also hasn't been as good as he was after coming back from his last injury.
Well come on, you're talking about a 13 game sample size here. This season will be the real test to see if Markov can play at his former level or not.

Markov would indeed make a very good "buy low" option for the Wings, but of course no one on this board understands what buying low means.

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If Markov plays 75 games he will be in Norris contention.
That's a pretty bold statement

If he plays 75 games I don't doubt he will be in the top scoring Dmen and do quite well defensively, but Norris contention?

As far as trading him goes, the Habs are in no position to do so since they will never get a proper return because of his recent injuries. We're stuck with him and I don't mind seeing him in a Habs uniform at all, especially if his knee truly is 100%.

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