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07-04-2012, 02:21 PM
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When talking about guys like Iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau Bennett
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07-04-2012, 02:24 PM
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When talking about guys like Iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau Bennett
Eric Tangradi
Olli Maata
1st rd picks in '13,'14
Conditional Picks if Iggy stuck around in Pittsburgh
Done!

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07-04-2012, 02:27 PM
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People complaining about Iggy's age must be forgetting he isn't your typical 35+ player

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07-04-2012, 02:30 PM
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People complaining about Iggy's age must be forgetting he isn't your typical 35+ player
Understandable, and I'm not complaining, but it is what it is. Calgary will won't too many young pieces and by the time those young assets are in their prime and are good NHL players, Iginla will be retired. So I would rather look at the long term rather than the short term.

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07-04-2012, 02:34 PM
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When talking about guys like Iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau Bennett
Eric Tangradi
Olli Maata
1st rd picks in '13,'14
Conditional Picks if Iggy stuck around in Pittsburgh
Young talent for an old man isn't the type of moves Ray Shero ever makes.

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07-04-2012, 02:36 PM
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when talking about guys like iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau bennett
eric tangradi
olli maata
1st rd picks in '13,'14
conditional picks if iggy stuck around in pittsburgh
No trade backs.

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07-04-2012, 02:41 PM
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When talking about guys like Iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau Bennett
Eric Tangradi
Olli Maata
1st rd picks in '13,'14
Conditional Picks if Iggy stuck around in Pittsburgh
at the deadline? trololol. no way in hell.

he would get a 1st and a mid-prospect. don't forget it would be pretty much his call.

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07-04-2012, 02:42 PM
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at the deadline? trololol. no way in hell.

he would get a 1st and a mid-prospect. don't forget it would be pretty much his call.
Oh, is that all? So Jarome Iginla = Paul Gaustad? News to me.

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07-04-2012, 02:49 PM
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Oh, is that all? So Jarome Iginla = Paul Gaustad? News to me.
Doesn't Iggy have a NTC and therefore can control his destination somewhat? I think 1st + Good Prospect is fair, I know Gaustad got a 1st but that was a clear overpayment.

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07-04-2012, 02:53 PM
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Doesn't Iggy have a NTC and therefore can control his destination somewhat? I think 1st + Good Prospect is fair, I know Gaustad got a 1st but that was a clear overpayment.
So people won't overpay for Iginla? Brutal logic there. Even with an NTC (which won't even be a factor), Calgary will be in the driver's seat if Iginla is traded at the deadline.

If Gaustad gets a first at the deadline, you should fear what Iginla would cost your team at the beginning of March.

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For Iginla to be moved, you'd think he'd ask for it, and for the franchise to grant him his wish to play for a contender. For that reason, I don't think he'd get full value in return at the deadline (He's still very much worth 3 assets IMO even at his age, though). I think Calgary would grant him his wish, and not have other teams just walk away from the asking price - that would defeat the purpose. No doubt contending teams still bid however, but nothing too over the top.

Not sure what it'd take with Iginla to be honest, reason for generalities, so excuse me for that. Penguins would obviously be a good fit for him, but we don't exactly have a rich pipeline in forward prospects which I assume is the most glaring need moving forward? I doubt we move Beau Bennett, and Eric Tangradi is by no means a deal-maker unless he steps it up prior to the TD.

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07-04-2012, 02:57 PM
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So people won't overpay for Iginla? Brutal logic there. Even with an NTC (which won't even be a factor), Calgary will be in the driver's seat if Iginla is traded at the deadline.

If Gaustad gets a first at the deadline, you should fear what Iginla would cost your team at the beginning of March.
I think a team would overpay for Iginla, it just won't be the Penguins.

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07-04-2012, 02:59 PM
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When talking about guys like Iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau Bennett
Eric Tangradi
Olli Maata
1st rd picks in '13,'14
Conditional Picks if Iggy stuck around in Pittsburgh



Iginla would have value but that's insane. The other proposal of 1st + Kennedy + Harrington is better (but still underpayment imo). I think Something like 1st, Tangradi, Harrington and Kennedy is close. Even as a pens fan I would hesitate to to that but I assume that's what it would take.

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07-04-2012, 03:05 PM
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So people won't overpay for Iginla? Brutal logic there. Even with an NTC (which won't even be a factor), Calgary will be in the driver's seat if Iginla is traded at the deadline.

If Gaustad gets a first at the deadline, you should fear what Iginla would cost your team at the beginning of March.
People are less likely to overpay if he controls where he plays. If I was the Pens I wouldn't offer much more than 1st + Kennedy + Prospect.

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People are less likely to overpay if he controls where he plays. If I was the Pens I wouldn't offer much more than 1st + Kennedy + Prospect.
Then you won't get Iginla. Again, we'll be in the driver's seat. If the offer is underwhelming, we'll keep him. No worries here.

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07-04-2012, 04:05 PM
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Don't bother speculating, he will be extended. Then that way of e wants out by Ye deadline you will see gross over payment. Just gross. Its a win win. Id rather him re-sign and play till he's selanne's age, just pot'n 30G's a season for the next 7 years.

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the free agency period started 4 days ago and already posting about the trade deadline. Neither team have put together a full roster yet!
Excuse me for wanting to have a discussion on a board that is almost entirely based on speculation anyways.

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07-04-2012, 05:11 PM
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When talking about guys like Iginla, the title shouldn't be "value of", it should be "how much would it take to pry him away". You don't trade a long time face of the franchise for anything short of a gross overpayment.

Beau Bennett
Eric Tangradi
Olli Maata
1st rd picks in '13,'14
Conditional Picks if Iggy stuck around in Pittsburgh
You do realize he would be a Penguins rental for 3 months? The Pens will not give up that much for any rental.

Hossa got Armstrong, Christensen, Esposito, and a 1st

plus the Thrashers added Dupuis

Iginla would get about the same deal from us for a rent a player

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07-04-2012, 05:13 PM
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Then you won't get Iginla. Again, we'll be in the driver's seat. If the offer is underwhelming, we'll keep him. No worries here.
What if Iginla requests a trade at the deadline?

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Calgary is better off holding onto him. They're not gonna get the value they want. And from what I understand, Iggy isn't going to ask for a trade.

Pipe dream at best.

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Doubt we could get much, maybe 2 picks...

Time to unload Iginla was last year... and this year, Feaster has now given Iginla almost no trade value (but hey, we got 2 years of him scoring 30 goals!)
It's a cute routine you have, trying to play a Flames fan

I've seen you on the Oilers message boards, you arent fooling anyone

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Some disgusting offers here...

He won't bring in as much as everyone thinks. Look at Kovy...look at Hossa...and those guys are in their prime players.

Iggy's still got game no doubt...but you're dreaming if you think the Pens are gonna break the bank on their prospect pool to get him.

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Doesn't Iggy have a NTC and therefore can control his destination somewhat? I think 1st + Good Prospect is fair, I know Gaustad got a 1st but that was a clear overpayment.
Nash overpaid for Gaustad because they wanted to make sure they got him you don't think there would be a lineup of teams willing to overpay for Iginla?

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Nash overpaid for Gaustad because they wanted to make sure they got him you don't think there would be a lineup of teams willing to overpay for Iginla?
Pretty sure that is not what he said. Just that theoretically CAL would have less leverage if Iginla had a set destination in mind. And that it would not be PIT overpaying. Don't really see anyone in here ruling out, that some other team may go nuclear on this.

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Nash overpaid for Gaustad because they wanted to make sure they got him you don't think there would be a lineup of teams willing to overpay for Iginla?
What do you think a realistic offer from the Pens would be then?

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