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07-04-2012, 11:27 AM
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they're grown men no one scares anyone. But if he can be physical, even at 5'8" or whatever he is, he's useful. The size fetish ( ) is getting extreme.
I'm not saying Bouillon's incompetent because he's short. The same way I don't have a problem with DD or Gionta, because theyre good players.

But what we needed on the back is diversity. The same way they've gone out and got some bigger, tougher, meaner forwards. The defence doesn't have one player in that mold and hasn't since Komisarek went AWOL and OByrne failed to develop.

The defence needs an intimidating presence I think. Intimidating being the key word, someone to push back when a forward is in Price's face. That defence would look a whole lot better with a 6'5 nasty lunatic on the bottom pair.

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Just as I post my sarcasm roster with Parise and Suter....they sign with the Wild

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07-04-2012, 01:23 PM
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There is no chance A.Kost is back, he had about 8 years to prove himself with the Habs, the guy has no guts, is an individualist nobody likes in the locker room.. Bergevin is building an hardwork team that will play hard every night and a group that will be united..
Gomez said AndreiK was one of the most liked guys in the locker room

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07-04-2012, 01:31 PM
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I'm not saying Bouillon's incompetent because he's short. The same way I don't have a problem with DD or Gionta, because theyre good players.

But what we needed on the back is diversity. The same way they've gone out and got some bigger, tougher, meaner forwards. The defence doesn't have one player in that mold and hasn't since Komisarek went AWOL and OByrne failed to develop.

The defence needs an intimidating presence I think. Intimidating being the key word, someone to push back when a forward is in Price's face. That defence would look a whole lot better with a 6'5 nasty lunatic on the bottom pair.
I find Emelin pretty intimidating. He hits as hard as anybody in the NHL.

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07-04-2012, 02:00 PM
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Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta
Gallagher - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Eller - Prust
Moen - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Subban - Gorges
Emelin - Markov
Bouillion - Karberle/Jurcina-(I hope they sign him..big physical D-man)
Weber/Diaz (Trade the Swiss chesse!!)

Does it Work???

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07-04-2012, 02:11 PM
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Pacioretty/DD/Cole
Bourque/Gomez/Gionta
Moen/Eller/Armstrong
Prust/Noke/White

Markov/Emelin
Subban/Gorges
Boullion/Diaz
Weber

Price
Budaj

Plekanec and Kaberle traded for prospects and picks.

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07-04-2012, 02:15 PM
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Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gomez-Eller-Armstrong
Moen-White/Noke-Prust

Thats how i see the forward lines as of now.

If Gallagher has a huge camp id like to see

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Gallagher-Eller-Armstrong

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07-04-2012, 02:15 PM
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From what they've done and what MB has said I expect 1 to 2 of Leblanc/Gallagher/Palushaj and Galchenyuk to be in the top nine next year. Most likely being Leblanc as Eller's 3rd line RW.

Whether Boullion slots in as Kaberle's 3rd pairing partner or as pressbox depth is a pretty interesting question.

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07-04-2012, 02:32 PM
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I see a lot of Gallagher on the left side on your line-ups, but he is actually a RW.

With Cole-Gionta-Armstrong and White as RW'ers, I can't see Gallagher cracking the line-up this year. He will probably have a better shot next year after a year in the AHL and with Armstrong's contract expiring. Same thing goes with Leblanc.

As for my line-up for next year:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Moen-Eller-Armstrong
Prust-Nokelainen-White

Markov-Emelin
Gorges-Subban
Kaberle-Bouillon

Price
PB

Overall I don't see this team as a playoff team, we need a guy to play alongside Plekanec and Gionta on the left side to slide Bourque on the third. I would try hard to sign Shane Doan if I was MB, I don't care what happened in the past, he's a guy who could have the same impact on the team as Erik Cole had last year.

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07-04-2012, 02:39 PM
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I still don't know if I like Kabouillon, or if I'll go with Bouberle.

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07-04-2012, 02:46 PM
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I still don't know if I like Kabouillon, or if I'll go with Bouberle.
LOL, Bouberle hands down. But when it comes to positioning, I prefer Kaberle on the left side. He struggled on his good side last year so I can't imagine how bad he would be, on his bad side.

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07-04-2012, 02:55 PM
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If the forwards stay as is. I think we might have to breakup the DD-Cole-Patches line. Bourque-Pleks-Gio isn't a good line IMO.

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07-04-2012, 03:58 PM
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My lineup barring Galchenyuk makes the team and Gomez gets moved...anywhere

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gionta
Desharnais-Plekanec-Cole
Bourque-Eller-Prust
Moen-White-Armstrong
Nokey

Markov-Emelin
Gorges-Subban
Bouillion-???
Diaz

Price
Budaj

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07-04-2012, 03:59 PM
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My lineup barring Galchenyuk makes the team and Gomez gets moved...anywhere

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gionta
Desharnais-Plekanec-Cole
Bourque-Eller-Prust
Moen-White-Armstrong
Nokey

Markov-Emelin
Gorges-Subban
Bouillion-???
Diaz

Price
Budaj
kaberle?

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07-04-2012, 04:01 PM
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Patch - DD - Cole
Bourque - Plek - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Armstrong
Prust - Noke - White
Blunden

Gorges - Subban
Markov - Emelin(I know, I know...RH-side)
Kaberle - Bouillon
Diaz

I actually quite like the 3rd and 4th lines. Those are going to be seriously ghey to play against. And Gomez went away, depending on the CBA, he may still be here for opening night.

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07-04-2012, 04:03 PM
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Patch - DD - Cole
Bourque - Plek - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Armstrong
Prust - Noke - White
Blunden

Gorges - Subban
Markov - Emelin(I know, I know...RH-side)
Kaberle - Bouillon
Diaz

I actually quite like the 3rd and 4th lines. Those are going to be seriously ghey to play against. And Gomez went away, depending on the CBA, he may still be here for opening night.

I'd switch patch and Bourque, but that's pretty much dead on.

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Going bold here, opening night:

Plekanec/Cole/Gionta

Galchenyuk/Pacoiretty/Eller

Desharnais/Prust/Armstrong

Gomez/Moen/White

Subban/Gorges

Markov/Emelin

Kaberle/Bouillon

Price/Budaj


Nokelainen, Diaz, Weber - pressbox

Bourque is sent down until it is seen if Galchenyuk should stay. Bourque is the least likely to get plucked off of re-entry waivers & if he is, sobeit, it becomes a $3.3 mill opening on the cap if needed later.

Plus, DD would play the PP with Max Pac & the kid, while Eller would play even strength for work along the boards & he would get PK time that the other three wouldn't.

Even strength, DD maybe able to boost Prust's & Colby's goal scoring a bit, while they open up some ice for him.

Gomez being a puckhog & his famous making a dash only to swing wide of the net could work playing with two guys who are looking to crash the net, this could be a solid bottom three

Subban is going to be the workhorse of the D. PK, PP, top D pairing. Markov will thrive if he stays healthy, playing a few less minutes but still being a huge offensive threat.

PP 1 - Galchenyuk/Pacoiretty/Desharnais/Markov/Subban(The Workhorse)

PP 2 - Plekanec/Cole/Gionta/Subban/Kaberle

PK 1- Eller/Moen/Subban/Gorges

PK 2 - Plekanec/Prust/Markov/Emelin

PK 3 - Eller/White/Gorges/Bouillon

PK 4 - Gomez/Armstrong/Markov/Emelin

I would nail Kaberle's ass to the bench on PKs & during the end of periods & OT.

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07-04-2012, 04:07 PM
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I'd switch patch and Bourque, but that's pretty much dead on.
They may well do just that. Gotta get that lazy ******* Bourque going somehow...

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I'm not saying Bouillon's incompetent because he's short. The same way I don't have a problem with DD or Gionta, because theyre good players.

But what we needed on the back is diversity. The same way they've gone out and got some bigger, tougher, meaner forwards. The defence doesn't have one player in that mold and hasn't since Komisarek went AWOL and OByrne failed to develop.

The defence needs an intimidating presence I think. Intimidating being the key word, someone to push back when a forward is in Price's face. That defence would look a whole lot better with a 6'5 nasty lunatic on the bottom pair.
For all the flak this D core gets for not being intimidating, both Subban and Emelin are good at open ice hits. That's the sort of 'intimidation' and physical presence that makes more of a difference--not the after-the-whistle scrums. Players will be less inclined to be overly creative around the blueline or just inside the blueline for fear of taking their eyes off of an incoming open-ice hit.

For that matter, Bouillon's pretty decent along the wall, too. And he has the quickness to stand opponents up on the blueline and get back into the play.

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For all the flak this D core gets for not being intimidating, both Subban and Emelin are good at open ice hits. That's the sort of 'intimidation' and physical presence that makes more of a difference--not the after-the-whistle scrums. Players will be less inclined to be overly creative around the blueline or just inside the blueline for fear of taking their eyes off of an incoming open-ice hit.

For that matter, Bouillon's pretty decent along the wall, too. And he has the quickness to stand opponents up on the blueline and get back into the play.

Cubes biggest problem is handling the big opposing forwards down low in front of the net. Frankie is as tough as nails, but when someone 6'3, 225 is leaning on him has problems controlling their sticks.

Kind of the spectrum opposite of Gill, he could handle guys down low, but his mobility hindered him from trying to challenge players away from the net, they would breezeby(pardon the punt) by him.

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I have a question that I've been asking myself, and after looking at Capgeek, you would have to think that something will have to give on the Habs roster in terms of a trade, or something of that sort.

Right now we have 22 signed players, counting Leblanc and Blunden. We take out those two as they most probably will be in Hamilton, but you add Diaz, Eller, and Subban, and we are at 23 roster spots. 8 dmen, 13 forwards, and 2 goalies. I can't imagine the Habs running with 3 extra roster players the entire year, and I do understand that injuries happen, but where are we going to put any players that come in through free agency?

I do understand that there is Gomez that will most likely start the year elsewhere, but there doesn't appear to be much room for extra players on this roster. Am I wrong, or is it more probable that we will run with this roster and let the rookies or younger players fill the holes (if there are any)?

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They may well do just that. Gotta get that lazy ******* Bourque going somehow...
Well, I do think that Desharnais is the right center for him. If there's a center that can bounce pucks off Bjork and into the net, it's DD. It's also to try to give Bourque weaker opposition, playing on Plek's wing against top opposition will ruin him even more.

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Well, I do think that Desharnais is the right center for him. If there's a center that can bounce pucks off Bjork and into the net, it's DD. It's also to try to give Bourque weaker opposition, playing on Plek's wing against top opposition will ruin him even more.
All fair points. Does he replace Cole or Pacioretty? Pacio would be nice with Plekanec but at the same time his chemistry with Desharnais is something to behold. This looks kind of right however :

Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gionta (I think all three should have good chemistry together. Gio has played well with Pleky and with Pacio at times so its a good guess)

Bourque-Desharnais-Cole (shouldn't be as awesome as with Pacio but anything to get Bourque out of his slump...)

On the Powerplay the Pacio-Desharnais-Cole trio should be back together.

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Patched DD Cole
Armstrong Plek Gionta
Leblanc Gomez Eller
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Leblanc Gomez Eller
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