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v20: off-season '12| In: Lowry, Fields, Valanciunas, Ross...Out: J Johnson, Bayless

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07-04-2012, 09:14 PM
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It ****ing SUCKS to be a Raptors fan...

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07-04-2012, 09:16 PM
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Was against Nash going to New York, was completely for him going to Lakers, so this news is great to me. Go get that ring Nash!

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07-04-2012, 09:18 PM
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So Lakers used that trade exception from the Odom trade to absorb Nash's contract, that put it to good use.

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07-04-2012, 09:20 PM
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sooo recap:

Leafs didn't do anything meaningful so far in the offseason.
Raptors went all in and lost the player they were hunting for
Jays still suck.

Neat.

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07-04-2012, 09:22 PM
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I don't buy the whole Canada factor.

Nash is from Victoria/Vancouver.

Pretty big difference from Toronto.

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07-04-2012, 09:23 PM
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Raptors fans owe nothing to this organization.

Why would anyone want to spend money on tickets or jersey's?

Who can fans look forward too being signed to Toronto?
Landy Fields yo. I am bubbling with excitement.

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07-04-2012, 09:25 PM
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So do we definitely have Fields now or does NY still have a chance to match? Would they even match? That's a lot of money for him.

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07-04-2012, 09:26 PM
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Oh boy this is a tough one for the Raptors. How will this franchise ever get off the ground? They've drafted good players only to have them leave, and they can't attract many free agents. That plus we all know an all european team will never go far.
Tony Parker/Ricky Rubio/JJ Barea
Mickael Pietrus/Thabo Sefolosha/Rudy Fernandez
Danilo Gallinari/Luol Deng/Andrei Kirilenko
Dirk Nowitzki/Andrea Bargnani/Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol/Serge Ibaka/Nene

Disagrees with you. There's more I'm leaving out too. I'd put that lineup out against any top team in the NBA today.

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07-04-2012, 09:26 PM
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sooo recap:

Leafs didn't do anything meaningful so far in the offseason.
Raptors went all in and lost the player they were hunting for
Jays still suck.

Neat.
2 games out of a playoff spot is not sucking.

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07-04-2012, 09:27 PM
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Tony Parker/Ricky Rubio/JJ Barea
Mickael Pietrus/Thabo Sefolosha/Rudy Fernandez
Danilo Gallinari/Luol Deng/Andrei Kirilenko
Dirk Nowitzki/Andrea Bargnani/Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol/Serge Ibaka/Nene

Disagrees with you. There's more I'm leaving out too. I'd put that lineup out against any top team in the NBA today.
You forgot Manu Ginobili and Nene is from Brazil.

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07-04-2012, 09:28 PM
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So do we definitely have Fields now or does NY still have a chance to match? Would they even match? That's a lot of money for him.
Grunwald would need to find an underground railroad to escape NYC alive, if he matched that insanely erroneous contract. I think he wants to save his matching for a possible Lin o/s from Houston.

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07-04-2012, 09:29 PM
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You forgot Manu Ginobili and Nene is from Brazil.
Ginobili is from Argentina. Which still isn't Europe, but whatever.

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Ginobili is from Argentina. Which still isn't Europe, but whatever.
Meh, my geography checked out years ago

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07-04-2012, 09:31 PM
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Colangelo has laid a huge turd in his stint as GM of the Raptors.
That's because Steve Nash made him. Thus why Colangelo wanted him back so badly.

This is much better fit for Nash as most people want to see him try and win a Championship.

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07-04-2012, 09:32 PM
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You forgot Manu Ginobili and Nene is from Brazil.
Good god how'd I forget about Manu, thanks! Btw, Manu is from Argentina and I was including anyone that's not from North America in my list. Some of those players in my mock roster are from Africa. So basically I was going for a global (excluding the NA obviously) team.

I think by European he meant players not from USA because Raptors have had other players from South America in the past (Araujo ugh...). These type of players the Raptors seem to attract trade or draft (see Barbosa, Calderon, Bargnani, Kleiza etc. etc.) You can build a stacked team with global players.

A lot of people use European as a blanket statement to mean anyone not from USA. That includes Australia, Africa, Asia and Central and South America.

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07-04-2012, 09:40 PM
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sooo recap:

Leafs didn't do anything meaningful so far in the offseason.
Raptors went all in and lost the player they were hunting for
Jays still suck.

Neat.
Not the best time to be a Toronto sports fan.

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07-04-2012, 09:48 PM
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Deal is said to be 3 years/25 million. That's 11 million less than what we offered.

Huge blow to the Raps and their marketability, IMO. If Nash doesn't want to play here, who the hell else will?
Nash is 38 years old,He's got a chance to win a championship or mutiple ones in LA on the back end of his career. I just don't get why people think this hurts Toronto and that Nash slapped the team and the country in the face for not choosing a ****** team like the Raptors over a team that has a legit chance to win the whole thing next season.

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07-04-2012, 09:52 PM
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I just don't see Nash fitting in in LA's system at all. They play so slow.

It really sucks for me. I can't even cheer for him now since LA is my most hated team.

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Don't ever change CP24.



He wants to win the cup and the NBA championship.

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Nash is 38 years old,He's got a chance to win a championship or mutiple ones in LA on the back end of his career. I just don't get why people think this hurts Toronto and that Nash slapped the team and the country in the face for not choosing a ****** team like the Raptors over a team that has a legit chance to win the whole thing next season.
People are forcing the whole idea of "Kid Canada" onto him. The benefits of him signing here are all about us (Canada), when in reality, if discussing solely the needs of Nash, Toronto has the least to offer out of Tor,NY,PHX and LA.

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07-04-2012, 09:58 PM
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With that said, I am on the fire BC bandwagon now. One mistake too many and essentially makes the Landry poison pill contract useless since they will have space to retain Lin no matter what.

It hit me the other day, do all Toronto sport team fans have a weird complex where they want to induce depression on themselves? If not, get outta here while you still can...

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07-04-2012, 10:04 PM
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I'm happy for Nash. Nash/Kobe/Gasol/Bynum is a great team that will give him a chance at a ring.

But seriously, I hate BC. ****ing Landry Fields, perfect.

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Blessing in disguise. Nash means Colangelo keeps his job and regains favor with the bosses, getting embarrased by this means he's not our GM by next draft. Either he gets fired early or his deal just expires. Either way I'd be SHOCKED if this POS GM got extended.

What's a more interesting question to me is the direction we go. If we're stupid we just hand the keys to Stefanski, who is a Colangelo-like hack who loves overpaying players and building 8th seeds. If we're smart we do what Orlando just did - hire a 1st timer from OKC/SAS/UTA/etc. who's learned from the best, a guy who cares a ton about not having overpaid players (the complete opposite of Colangelo), one committed to an asset building plan and who recognizes the direction this team has to go is backwards, to the draft for more years, instead of trying to chase a playoff dream with one of the league's 5 least talented teams with as much cap fat as anyone

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The Raptors are an irrelevant franchise. Nobody wants to play here. They never have a chance to get a big name free agent. That's the bottom line in the NBA.

The Raptors are not the only franchise in this situation. There are about 15-20 teams that are completely irrelevant.

The entire system is broken. I don't understand why the owners of these teams don't form a block and force changes to the current system. There was a Lock Out that shortened the last season that was supposed to solve some of these problems and it is now worse than ever.

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He wants to win the cup and the NBA championship.
LOL!! Epic!

Maybe they are telling the future of where Rick ends up??

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